Legendary Whitetail Deer taken in Bowbell, North Dakota - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote] [t]https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/bismarcktribune.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/b8/5b87923d-8e31-57bf-8e53-855531c27c7f/5a0bad76e5622.image.jpg[/t] BOWBELLS -- It was the buck of a lifetime. No doubt about that. Kyle Hass of Bowbells harvested a monster of a non-typical white-tailed deer during the season opener last Friday. His dad was there too, and his best friend. The quality company made an exciting hunt even more memorable. As for the deer, about as non-typical as you can get, Hass said, "It was kind of a freak of nature to even have that thing around." Non-typical white-tailed deer, those that have antlers that differ from the traditional matching sets on the left and right sides, are not completely unusual. There's a few taken every year in North Dakota. What makes the Hass buck stand out is its large size and the fact that very few people, if any, had previously seen the deer in the area only about 12 miles south of the Canadian border and 52 miles northwest of Minot. "He was kind of a legend," said Hass. "Everybody talked about him but no one saw him on the hoof, just the sheds." ...... The buck has 30 points on its antlers. Early estimates of a score are in the 225 range. Of course, no official Boone and Crockett score can be made on the deer until a 60-day drying period expires but it is all but assured of a lofty place in the North Dakota record book, very probable in the top-5 non-typical white-tailed deer in state history. [/quote] [URL="http://bismarcktribune.com/lifestyles/outdoors/monster-white-tailed-deer-called-a-legend-taken-in-northern/article_eb7903cc-f28c-5c81-b6b8-9b43840e7a3b.html#tracking-source=home-latest-1"]Bismarck Tribune[/URL] Holy shit. That's a huge buck. :drool:

I hope he ate it at least.

It certainly looks a whole lot better than the Tucker buck that came from my area last year. Seriously this guy looks like his antlers got caught in a blender. [t]http://wwwcdn.deeranddeerhunting.com/wp-content/uploads/BUCK-Tucker-Tennesse-nontypical-giant-1024x735.png[/t] [t]http://www.northamericanwhitetail.com/files/2017/04/Tucker2.jpg[/t]

Jesus christ, that deer looks like it has a willow tree growing out of it's head. :v:

Let's keep glorifying hunting woo (I have no issue with hunting/killing animals for [I]necessary resources[/I] ie. food + clothing)

[QUOTE=kill3r;52892963]Let's keep glorifying hunting woo (I have no issue with hunting/killing animals for [I]necessary resources[/I] ie. food + clothing)[/QUOTE] It's also necessary because they will overbreed and destroy their ecosystems.

[QUOTE=kill3r;52892963]Let's keep glorifying hunting woo (I have no issue with hunting/killing animals for [I]necessary resources[/I] ie. food + clothing)[/QUOTE] Indiscriminate hunting (i.e. back in the 1800s with buffalo) and illegal game hunting are absolutely bad for the environment no doubt. But deer can become a pest and destructive to the local environment through over-grazing which causes more errosion of river banks which cause a number of detrimental effects to the local ecosystem. Without sufficient natural predators (i.e. wolves, cougars, etc), the balance goes out of wack. Example of when wolves were reintroduced to Yellowstone NP: [video=youtube;ysa5OBhXz-Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q[/video] Legal hunting curbs this but of course we shoe horned ourselves into the ecosystem when people killed/drove off most apex predators.

Yes animals can be a problem if their population is not under control, but it still doesn't call for the glorification of a single kill.

[QUOTE=kill3r;52892963]Let's keep glorifying hunting woo (I have no issue with hunting/killing animals for [I]necessary resources[/I] ie. food + clothing)[/QUOTE] Okay, but take into account that deer can carry diseases like [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease]Lyme Disease[/url], [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_wasting_disease]Chronic Wasting Disease[/url], and [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epizootic_hemorrhagic_disease]EHD[/url]. All three are very common for the whitetail deer, hunting stops the spread of these diseases. Then look at revenue. In Tennessee, where I live, hunting is a massive industry. Sportsmen pump about $3.5 million into Tennessee's economy each [I][B]day[/B][/I] through the purchase of supplies, travel, lodging, meals and associated incidentals, according to the Tennessee Wildlife Federation. As others have stated above, overpopulation is a huge issue. It's necessary to thin out the numbers to keep herds free of disease, and to keep roads and highways safer. And the fact that venison tastes fucking amazing.

[QUOTE=Lazore;52893060]Yes animals can be a problem if their population is not under control, but it still doesn't call for the glorification of a single kill.[/QUOTE] why not

[QUOTE=kill3r;52892963]Let's keep glorifying hunting woo (I have no issue with hunting/killing animals for [I]necessary resources[/I] ie. food + clothing)[/QUOTE] Deer are a pest, dumb as rocks, and violent. Deer will wander into a populated area and just tear shit up. If they arent hunted they WILL overbreed. (its mostly our fault for hunting all their predators out of their ecosystems during the 1800s but they need to be culled somehow.) Also deer meat is delicious in a stew.

[QUOTE=shad0w440;52893121]Deer are a pest, dumb as rocks, and violent. Deer will wander into a populated area and just tear shit up. If they arent hunted they WILL overbreed. (its mostly our fault for hunting all their predators out of their ecosystems during the 1800s but they need to be culled somehow.) Also deer meat is delicious in a stew.[/QUOTE] I wouldn’t call them dumb as rocks, they just get dumb during the rut when males are horny as shit :v:

This isn't even real news. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Why reply?" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Lazore;52893060]Yes animals can be a problem if their population is not under control, but it still doesn't call for the glorification of a single kill.[/QUOTE] What do you suggest? Spaying a neutering a bunch of deer?

[QUOTE=Megadave;52893197]What do you suggest? Spaying a neutering a bunch of deer?[/QUOTE] He's literally just suggesting that hunting is not glorified by getting news articles posted about it, even if it is necessary. I wouldn't mind if hunting was seen by society as a shameful but necessary activity, but America is basically fucking stupid so there's no way that could happen.

[video=youtube;ln1ucGoPvWk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln1ucGoPvWk[/video] As someone who lives in an area where you see deer all over the damn place, I agree with this guy 100%. These fucks keep eating the plants in my grandmother's garden.

I don't see why we should start shaming people that do a necessary service. I'd rather deer be killed quickly as a food source rather than slowly die of starvation as they battle for food resources or get killed on roads more often.

I don't think being an "exterminator" is glorified in nearly the same way, yet they are basically the same since hunter and exterminator are defined by killing living creatures for, let's just say, practical reasons. [editline]15th November 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;52893262]I don't see why we should start shaming people that do a necessary service. I'd rather deer be killed quickly as a food source rather than slowly die of starvation as they battle for food resources or get killed on roads more often.[/QUOTE] Yeah well I wouldn't mind a society that shames people who spend their time killing things. It is necessary, that is absolutely true, but that doesn't make it cool.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;52893251]He's literally just suggesting that hunting is not glorified by getting news articles posted about it, even if it is necessary. I wouldn't mind if hunting was seen by society as a shameful but necessary activity, but America is basically fucking stupid so there's no way that could happen.[/QUOTE] What is wrong with hunting? Every person I know who hunts deer, eats the deer. This isn't trophy hunting in africa for sport. All the venison that they eat is just replacing the same meat that would have came from a domesticated pig or cow that lived in a pen its entire life to end it by being corralled into a metal cage and a pneumatic bolt driven through their skull. The Deer was able to live entirely in the wild as a free animal. Deer populations are very much kept in check, and without any natural predators their populations (in places like the midwest) explode without regulated hunting.

[QUOTE=Ajacks;52893266]What is wrong with hunting? Every person I know who hunts deer, eats the deer. This isn't trophy hunting in africa for sport. All the venison that they eat is just replacing the same meat that would have came from a domesticated pig or cow that lived in a pen its entire life to end it by being corralled into a metal cage and a pneumatic bolt driven through their skull. The Deer was able to live entirely in the wild as a free animal. Deer populations are very much kept in check, and without any natural predators their populations (in places like the midwest) explode without regulated hunting.[/QUOTE] Yeah but it isn't "cool" and thus shouldn't be glorified or really even talked about. Exterminators don't talk about their job as if it's totally normal.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;52893264]I don't think being an "exterminator" is glorified in nearly the same way, yet they are basically the same since hunter and exterminator are defined by killing living creatures for, let's just say, practical reasons. [editline]15th November 2017[/editline] Yeah well I wouldn't mind a society that shames people who spend their time killing things. It is necessary, that is absolutely true, but that doesn't make it cool.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Tetracycline;52893268]It is necessary, that is absolutely true, but that doesn't make it cool.[/QUOTE] Why'd you literally just copy and paste this for a post? [Editline]a[/Editline] Nevermind, they edited

I don't really have a big stance on this, I don't care what happens with hunting because it really is a necessity, but I would prefer that we don't post articles about some epic kill or whatever. The animal industry, and this includes the mindsets that hunting perpetuates, is a big problem on our planet and to our healths also.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;52893268]It is necessary, that is absolutely true, but that doesn't make it cool.[/QUOTE] Does it make any difference? There are a limited number of deer that can be taken every year state by state. If you had glorifying articles about hunting it doesn't change that number, no more or less animals will die. Hunting should be taken seriously and for the people that do it should devote a lot of time to the act because irresponsible hunting can cause undue harm and suffering of animals, but hunting popularity is only on the decline, so worrying about it being seen as cool doesn't really make sense.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;52893268]Yeah but it isn't "cool" and thus shouldn't be glorified or really even talked about. Exterminators don't talk about their job as if it's totally normal.[/QUOTE] I dunno about you, but hunting is cool to me.

[QUOTE=Hardpoint Nomad;52893279]I dunno about you, but hunting is cool to me.[/QUOTE] That's the problem. There's absolutely nothing cool about literally being a camper and then shooting an unsuspecting animal to death. [editline]15th November 2017[/editline] The animal agriculture industry is perpetuated by glorifying hunting among many other things. I don't want to turn this into a big vegan thing, but that is the kind of world we would ideally be moving towards.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;52893282]That's the problem. There's absolutely nothing cool about literally being a camper and then shooting an unsuspecting animal to death.[/QUOTE] That's your opinion yo. Hunting as a sport is a massive thing where I'm from. Not thinking it's cool doesn't justify its removal in the slightest

There is actually a very interesting connection between hunting and species conversation. A lot of people express moral outrage over animals dying, but they don't intervene in a way to raise the economic value of animals *not* being hunted to extinction. [URL="http://www.radiolab.org/story/rhino-hunter/"] This NPR articl[/URL]e, altho somewhat unrelated in the case of OP's article, is still very intersting.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;52893282] I don't want to turn this into a big vegan thing, [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Tetracycline;52893282] but that is the kind of world we would ideally be moving towards. [/quote]

[QUOTE=Hardpoint Nomad;52893298]empty post[/QUOTE] Hey those are the facts, if they turn this into a big vegan thing then maybe the veganism thing is too heavy to even cursorily mention.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;52893282]That's the problem. There's absolutely nothing cool about literally being a camper and then shooting an unsuspecting animal to death.[/QUOTE] Hunting is a closeness with our human nature, our history, nature itself and the intimate relationship between ourselves and the animals we consume. It's a beautiful thing in it's own way. If you don't believe in and do not consume meat products then I can understand the disgust but you can't say it isn't and hasn't been a necessity for humankind, and all predatory animals back to the dawn of life. The act of hunting is almost meditative and anyone who regularly consumes meat products should be exposed to the act of taking a life that you consume because without that you have no frame of knowledge to understand the true cost of that hamburger or chicken strip which is very a very unhealthy state to be in, a denial of sorts. Hunting is solitary, tranquil, and connects you to the earth. If you consume meat then that's something you should understand.