Ford picks Britain to build diesel engines for best-selling US pick-ups - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE]Ford is to build thousands of new diesel engines in the UK, as the US car giant prepares a non-petrol alternative for its iconic pick-ups across the pond. A diesel version of the Ford’s best-selling F-150 truck is to go on sale in the US this spring, the firm announced today. Ford is hoping to gain a marketing edge in the popular pick-up market, as rivals also explore more efficient engines. The Detroit-headquartered firm expects the diesel trucks to achieve 30 miles per gallon. The vehicle will come with a price tag between $2,400 and $4,000 more than its petrol alternative. ... Ford said it was confident its diesel engines would comply with emissions standards.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.cityam.com/278363/ford-picks-britain-build-diesel-engines-best-selling-us/amp[/url] Enjoy the fresh British NOx lads.

Expect the cunts over here to start going "why aren't dey buildin' those over here! build American!!!"

Put a stickshift behind it and I might actually be willing to buy one. Come on, Ford. You know you can do it. Lever out the floor, extra pedal for the left foot, nice and simple like you've done for decades past.

makes sense cause you can get diesel motors in the competitions '1500 class' trucks.

pickups diesel Now we just need the horde of stupid people who just NEED to have these abhorrent things for no reason other than sitting high in their seats, and you've got the holy trinity of pollution.

[QUOTE=TestECull;53036837]Put a stickshift behind it and I might actually be willing to buy one. Come on, Ford. You know you can do it. Lever out the floor, extra pedal for the left foot, nice and simple like you've done for decades past.[/QUOTE] As much as I agree with your sentiments, this is simply not possible in today's market. The people that are buying full size pick 'em up trucks (especially diesel ones, which carry a price premium) aren't gonna want to row their own. And I'm not sure you'd want to row your own in a vehicle this big anyway. Maybe in a Ram with the Cummins and mechanical fuel pump, but even the simplest cars today aren't as easy to work on as they used to be.

[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;53036925]pickups diesel Now we just need the horde of stupid people who just NEED to have these abhorrent things for no reason other than sitting high in their seats, and you've got the holy trinity of pollution.[/QUOTE] I miss the small pickup segment. It’s great that it’s making a comeback finally but we’re at the point Americans just keep wanting bigger and bigger. My old Ranger is a cozy size but that’s on its way out soon. I also miss station wagons. Now we have these bastard children called crossovers everywhere.

[QUOTE=Morgen;53036508][url]http://www.cityam.com/278363/ford-picks-britain-build-diesel-engines-best-selling-us/amp[/url] Enjoy the fresh British NOx lads.[/QUOTE] They'll almost certainly ship with a urea system, thats just future proofing themselves [editline]8th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=LtKyle2;53037006]I miss the small pickup segment. It’s great that it’s making a comeback finally but we’re at the point Americans just keep wanting bigger and bigger. My old Ranger is a cozy size but that’s on its way out soon. I also miss station wagons. Now we have these bastard children called crossovers everywhere.[/QUOTE] No fuck that noise, my next car will be a hatchback, my CRV right now is fine but the AWD is really only there for the 2 months of really shit roads we get and i'm getting bad (not for an suv though) gas mileage I just wish mazda's skyactive-x came in a more attractive car than the mazda 3 hatchback

[QUOTE=spacedooky;53036933]As much as I agree with your sentiments, this is simply not possible in today's market. The people that are buying full size pick 'em up trucks (especially diesel ones, which carry a price premium) aren't gonna want to row their own. And I'm not sure you'd want to row your own in a vehicle this big anyway. Maybe in a Ram with the Cummins and mechanical fuel pump, but even the simplest cars today aren't as easy to work on as they used to be.[/QUOTE] Not that I don't agree that automatics have their advantages, especially in gridlock/heavy traffic. That being said, I find manuals are all around more fun to drive, as well as making me a better and more attentive driver, and since I don't live in a area with heavy traffic, have no plans to ever own an auto again. This is Australia though, where manuals are common and it's unusual not to know how to drive one. It's not hard to see why they're being phased out in the states, no one wants to buy them anymore.

[QUOTE=spacedooky;53036933]As much as I agree with your sentiments, this is simply not possible in today's market. The people that are buying full size pick 'em up trucks (especially diesel ones, which carry a price premium) aren't gonna want to row their own. [/quote] There are some of us who are. A lot of my refusal to buy a new truck is because [B]you can't get a fucking stick in any of them.[/B] IIRC Ford dropped theirs first, around the MY2005 point when they facelifted away from the MY1997 design. Chevy offered a Romanian Jail Cell package with a basic V6 and a five speed until IIRC 2011, and I think you could get a Ram with a V6 and a six-speed until 2012. Tundra? Titan? Never had a stick to begin with, not in the US anyway. I'd be willing to put up with the electronic bullshit(OR at least take the time to disable most of it) if Ford sold this truck with this engine and a five speed manual. THe half-ton I have now has a four speed OD manual and I love it to death. Even if it is pretty much at EOL and due for a bumper-to-bumper overhaul(Hey guess why I'd be interested in owning one of these if they offered it with a stick...) [quote]And I'm not sure you'd want to row your own in a vehicle this big anyway.[/quote] And why is that? Why would I not want 20% better fuel economy in the city than the automatic? Why would I not want a simpler, more robust, less maintenance intensive transmission? Why would I not want an inherent theft deterrent? Why would I not want a 'Can I borrow your truck?' deterrent? Why would I want significantly less driving enjoyment and a less cluttered steering column? It even gives me a handy dandy in-cab trash holder, via looping an old plastic shopping bag over the shift lever and using that to take care of the odd cola can or fast food wrapper. Don't care if it's a 2,000 pound sports car or a 10,000 pound hauling rig, I want that third pedal under the dash. Or, in the case of pickups, fourth pedal since they generally use a pedal for parking brake. I'm so stubborn about stickshifts that I'm going to shove one into my Crown Vic when I get around to scrounging up a replacement engine for it... [quote]Maybe in a Ram with the Cummins and mechanical fuel pump, but even the simplest cars today aren't as easy to work on as they used to be.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and that's one of my major pet peeves with modern cars. I fucking hate the needless complexity and generally don't look at anything MY1985 or newer. The rugged simplicity of yesteryear's auto is a tremendously strong force pulling me towards just simply not wanting anything to do with modern cars in general. But I'd be willing to chance it with this combination [I]if Ford put a proper gearbox in it[/I]. As much as I loathe modern vehicles, I can't scoff at realistically getting 30MPG average out of a half-ton pickup truck. They'll probably carry inflated EPA ratings of 40 or so, but real world, with a five speed, I'd expect a diesel F150 to get 30 average and have more than enough torque to pull any trailer the chassis could safely handle. IDGAF about acceleration in this segment, the truck Icurrently have will 0-60 in about 15 seconds or so and that's just fine. They're not designed to haul ass. They're designed to haul what's designed to haul ass, and as long as they will get to 70-75 and hold that speed I'm happy with that.

[QUOTE=Sableye;53037036]They'll almost certainly ship with a urea system, thats just future proofing themselves [editline]8th January 2018[/editline] No fuck that noise, my next car will be a hatchback, my CRV right now is fine but the AWD is really only there for the 2 months of really shit roads we get and i'm getting bad (not for an suv though) gas mileage I just wish mazda's skyactive-x came in a more attractive car than the mazda 3 hatchback[/QUOTE] Any word on Mazda3 MPS/Mazdaspeed recently?

[QUOTE=Im Crimson;53037790]Any word on Mazda3 MPS/Mazdaspeed recently?[/QUOTE] The best there is right now IIRC is that "it's still one of our interests as a company". That and the 2018 Mazda6 optionally has the turbo from the CX-9. But it still lacks the rest of the package that would make a Speed.

[QUOTE=TestECull;53037642]There are some of us who are. A lot of my refusal to buy a new truck is because [B]you can't get a fucking stick in any of them.[/B] IIRC Ford dropped theirs first, around the MY2005 point when they facelifted away from the MY1997 design. Chevy offered a Romanian Jail Cell package with a basic V6 and a five speed until IIRC 2011, and I think you could get a Ram with a V6 and a six-speed until 2012. Tundra? Titan? Never had a stick to begin with, not in the US anyway. I'd be willing to put up with the electronic bullshit(OR at least take the time to disable most of it) if Ford sold this truck with this engine and a five speed manual. THe half-ton I have now has a four speed OD manual and I love it to death. Even if it is pretty much at EOL and due for a bumper-to-bumper overhaul(Hey guess why I'd be interested in owning one of these if they offered it with a stick...) And why is that? Why would I not want 20% better fuel economy in the city than the automatic? Why would I not want a simpler, more robust, less maintenance intensive transmission? Why would I not want an inherent theft deterrent? Why would I not want a 'Can I borrow your truck?' deterrent? Why would I want significantly less driving enjoyment and a less cluttered steering column? It even gives me a handy dandy in-cab trash holder, via looping an old plastic shopping bag over the shift lever and using that to take care of the odd cola can or fast food wrapper. Don't care if it's a 2,000 pound sports car or a 10,000 pound hauling rig, I want that third pedal under the dash. Or, in the case of pickups, fourth pedal since they generally use a pedal for parking brake. I'm so stubborn about stickshifts that I'm going to shove one into my Crown Vic when I get around to scrounging up a replacement engine for it... Yeah, and that's one of my major pet peeves with modern cars. I fucking hate the needless complexity and generally don't look at anything MY1985 or newer. The rugged simplicity of yesteryear's auto is a tremendously strong force pulling me towards just simply not wanting anything to do with modern cars in general. But I'd be willing to chance it with this combination [I]if Ford put a proper gearbox in it[/I]. As much as I loathe modern vehicles, I can't scoff at realistically getting 30MPG average out of a half-ton pickup truck. They'll probably carry inflated EPA ratings of 40 or so, but real world, with a five speed, I'd expect a diesel F150 to get 30 average and have more than enough torque to pull any trailer the chassis could safely handle. IDGAF about acceleration in this segment, the truck Icurrently have will 0-60 in about 15 seconds or so and that's just fine. They're not designed to haul ass. They're designed to haul what's designed to haul ass, and as long as they will get to 70-75 and hold that speed I'm happy with that.[/QUOTE] Preach it brother.