American Man Gives Nazi Salute in Germany, Gets Punched in the Face - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE]Police say a drunken American man was punched by a passer-by as he gave the stiff-armed Nazi salute multiple times in downtown Dresden. Dresden police said Sunday the 41-year-old, whose name and hometown weren’t given for privacy reasons, suffered minor injuries in the 8:15 a.m. Saturday assault.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/american-tourist-gives-nazi-salute-in-germany-is-beaten-up/2017/08/13/684393c8-8011-11e7-9e7a-20fa8d7a0db6_story.html?utm_term=.76f4c663bb60[/url]

[quote]His assailant fled the scene, and is being sought for causing bodily harm.[/quote] Doubt anyone's gonna tell the police what he looks like.

Good, both that he didn't end up in jail over it, and that he got socked in the face over it. He'll learn not to be a disrespectful douchebag without his life getting absolutely ruined.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52568261]Doubt anyone's gonna tell the police what he looks like.[/QUOTE] "it was a one armed man officer."

Hope they lock that person up

[QUOTE=TestECull;52568345]Good, both that he didn't end up in jail over it, and that he got socked in the face over it. He'll learn not to be a disrespectful douchebag without his life getting absolutely ruined.[/QUOTE] He was "severely drunk", so I don't think that was really his intention or that he's necessarily a nazi sympathiser. He may want to stay a bit more sober in the future though.

[QUOTE=TestECull;52568345]Good, both that he didn't end up in jail over it, and that he got socked in the face over it. He'll learn not to be a disrespectful douchebag without his life getting absolutely ruined.[/QUOTE] but, free speech? is it ok to hit someone just because something is subjectively very offensive?

[QUOTE=343N;52568384]but, free speech? is it ok to hit someone just because something is subjectively very offensive?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure Nazi stuff is explicitly banned in Germany.

[QUOTE=343N;52568384]but, free speech? is it ok to hit someone just because something is subjectively very offensive?[/QUOTE] No, but that doesn't mean he didn't deserve it...

[QUOTE=Revenge282;52568388]No, but that doesn't mean he didn't deserve it...[/QUOTE] he deserves it because he said something offensive? i don't think it's right we can punch people because something is offensive [I]enough[/I], then where do we draw the line where we say 'you're offended enough, so it's ok to hit him'

[QUOTE=343N;52568390]he deserves it because he said something offensive? i don't think it's right we can punch people because something is offensive [I]enough[/I], then where do we draw the line where we say 'you're offended enough, so it's ok to hit him'[/QUOTE] I never said it was right or that someone should do it. I said he deserved it.

but you're saying he deserved it, so he rightfully earned the right to be punched in the face, so it's [I]ok[/I] that he was?

[QUOTE=343N;52568390]he deserves it because he said something offensive? i don't think it's right we can punch people because something is offensive [I]enough[/I], then where do we draw the line where we say 'you're offended enough, so it's ok to hit him'[/QUOTE] Try to call a german guy a nazi or do the nazi salute, he'll punch the shit outta you. And for good reasons.

[QUOTE=343N;52568390]he deserves it because he said something offensive? i don't think it's right we can punch people because something is offensive [I]enough[/I], then where do we draw the line where we say 'you're offended enough, so it's ok to hit him'[/QUOTE] Nazism goes beyond merely being "offensive", doubly so in Germany, where they are distinctly less than welcome. The American should be grateful he isn't the one being punished.

[QUOTE=MarcusSmith;52568400]Try to call a german guy a nazi or do the nazi salute, he'll punch the shit outta you. And for good reasons.[/QUOTE] i know they'd probably get really pissed and violent, but.. a. he was drunk b. i'm just trying to say i don't think it's right/ok to hit someone just because the offense level reaches a certain level

[QUOTE=EuSKalduna;52568402]Nazism goes beyond merely being "offensive", doubly so in Germany, where they are distinctly less than welcome. The American should be grateful he isn't the one being punished.[/QUOTE] He is [quote]Police said the U.S. national is under investigation for violating German laws prohibiting Nazi symbols[/quote]

[QUOTE=343N;52568399]but you're saying he deserved it, so he rightfully earned the right to be punched in the face, so it's [I]ok[/I] that he was?[/QUOTE] You reap what you sow. I can't really defend a guy who did this multiple times after probably being told, "Hey don't do that". If you're being drunk and belligerent, and you're not listening to words, there's not much else left in the way of communicating besides physical force is there?

[QUOTE=EuSKalduna;52568402]Nazism goes beyond merely being "offensive", doubly so in Germany, where they are distinctly less than welcome. The American should be grateful he isn't the one being punished.[/QUOTE] well unless the salute is a signal that you're literally abusing people, i don't think it's right then, (and even if the guy is slightly a nazi, i don't think it helps the cause either)

[QUOTE=Niklas;52568406]He is[/QUOTE] Oh cool. And there's no way the police are getting any witnesses. All's well today.

[QUOTE=343N;52568390]he deserves it because he said something offensive? i don't think it's right we can punch people because something is offensive [I]enough[/I], then where do we draw the line where we say 'you're offended enough, so it's ok to hit him'[/QUOTE] I don't know, 343N. I daresay that whoever punched him in the face was using their freedom of expression, too. It's a very communicative gesture, you see. It'll convey meaning across barriers of language and culture, with no doubt in anyone's mind as to what it means.

oh come on, a drunk guy did something dumb, and got hit in the face. He'll be fine in a day.

[QUOTE=343N;52568409]well unless the salute is a signal that you're literally abusing people, i don't think it's right then, (and even if the guy is slightly a nazi, i don't think it helps the cause either)[/QUOTE] I mean the salute is literally saying "I support an ideology that abuses people" so

[QUOTE=archangel125;52568434]I don't know, 343N. I daresay that whoever punched him in the face was using their freedom of expression, too. It's a very communicative gesture, you see. It'll convey meaning across barriers of language and culture, with no doubt in anyone's mind as to what it means.[/QUOTE] Mmhmm, so is it okay if the nazi uses his freedom of expression to punch the guy in the face first? [editline]14th August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=LegndNikko;52568449]I mean the salute is literally saying "I support an ideology that abuses people" so[/QUOTE] 'i abuse people who support an ideology who abuse people' is what this feels like this is though. [I]i'm not trying to defend nazism or his ideology or anything[/I], and i understand that the man was passively provoked, but i just don't think it's right, is all, it seems hypocritical

[QUOTE=343N;52568454]Mmhmm, so is it okay if the nazi uses his freedom of expression to punch the guy in the face first?[/QUOTE] That's assault, you numbskull. Stop being so pedantic. What part of this whole situation is so difficult for you to understand?

Violence is seldom the right approach. Can't say I feel sorry for him though.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52568512]That's assault, you numbskull. Stop being so pedantic. What part of this whole situation is so difficult for you to understand?[/QUOTE] but it's not assault if you punch a nazi in the face?

[QUOTE=343N;52568454]'i abuse people who support an ideology who abuse people' is what this feels like this is though. [I]i'm not trying to defend nazism or his ideology or anything[/I], and i understand that the man was passively provoked, but i just don't think it's right, is all, it seems hypocritical[/QUOTE] Punching someone because they're be a dick isn't really "abuse".

[QUOTE=343N;52568399]but you're saying he deserved it, so he rightfully earned the right to be punched in the face, so it's [I]ok[/I] that he was?[/QUOTE] You can be okay with something happening while still think it's wrong in principle.

[QUOTE=343N;52568515]but it's not assault if you punch a nazi in the face?[/QUOTE] given the recent events in Charlottesville... I'm not advocating that he gets punched in the face, nor do I really support someone for doing it, but I'm not going to be bothered that he was decked. He was doing the equivalent of pissing on someone's grave. Take your defense of freedom of hate speech elsewhere.

[QUOTE=343N;52568515]but it's not assault if you punch a nazi in the face?[/QUOTE] Oh, it is. It's just that a large chunk of the population couldn't shed a tear about it happening to a nazi, it's that simple.