Couple returns from work trip to find 13 gypsies have moved into their house. - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Z15ybTn.jpg[/IMG] BELGIUM. A couple from the East Flemish city of Ghent is powerless to remove a group of Romani Gypsies that are squatting in their house. The couple is currently away working in Vietnam. This week their neighbour contacted them to tell them that a dozen or so Romani are squatting in the house they bought a couple of months ago and that is their official residence. Writing on Facebook Sarah Braeye said "They have just forced the lock of the front door. Our neighbour has said that she hears banging and that they come outside with planks. Our furniture is there too. We don’t know what is happening there”. The couple wrote a letter to the Mayor of Ghent Daniël Termont (socialist, photo). However, Mr Termont replied by saying “squatting is currently not a criminal offence, although a number of proposals have been tabled to change this." [/QUOTE] [URL="http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/Ghent/1.2914584"]Source[/URL] (English) [URL="https://www.metronieuws.nl/nieuws/buitenland/2017/11/koppel-gaat-een-weekend-weg-13-krakers-in-huis"]Source 2[/URL] (Dutch) On October 5 a new law got accepted that finally makes squatting illegal but it can still take a while before it actually gets implanted, there is chance that this can take another year or 2.

[quote]“squatting is currently not a criminal offence, [/quote] This is beyond retarded. They've basically stolen the house and for some fucking reason it's not a crime?

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;52850544]This is beyond retarded. They've basically stolen the house and for some fucking reason it's not a crime?[/QUOTE] They already accepted a new law to solve that on the 5th of october, it just needs to get implemented.

It absolutely baffles me that there are places in the world where someone can break into your house and lock you out, and you can't just call 911 and have the whole lot arrested on the spot. If it's your house, you have the papers, they should be removed immediately. They can squat in jail for breaking and entering, theft (if they took food or money), and property damage.

[QUOTE=scratch (nl);52850554]They already accepted a new law to solve that on the 5th of october, it just needs to get implemented.[/QUOTE] I just can't understand that there is no law allready in place for this? As stated earlier they basicly stole a home.

[QUOTE=Zero!;52850588]I just can't understand that there is no law allready in place for this? As stated earlier they basicly stole a home.[/QUOTE] Some redditor presented the following explanation: [QUOTE] Second, we have squatters rights because sometimes people buy land and don't use it. Or buy land and lose it in the shuffle of deaths and wills and sales so the land ends up wasted. This was especially problematic in old England, where the rule comes from, since people would buy huge tracts of land and it was hard to know where one property began and another ended. The idea was that, by allowing people to take possession of the land by use, you encouraged landowners to actually check on their land from time to time, and also prevented the descendants of an absentee landowner from swooping in 100 years later and kicking you out of your house. It also relates to how the law works. There's a statute of limitations on the action you take to evict someone. (another thing that made sense in the past when paper records got lost or were stolen or forged). You can't even begin to have "squatter's rights" to property until that period lapses, and it's usually 15, 20, or 30 years. Last, in most places squatters rights are really hard to get, even if you wait out the time. So, for instance, if you are there with permission, you can't get squatter's rights. And, in a lot of places, if you're there illegally (meaning you just moved in rather than, say, got confused about where the property line was between your house and the next guy's house) you can't get squatter's rights no matter what.[/QUOTE]

Say what you like but fuck gypsies, they damn near robbed me and hurt me in the middle of paris in daylight.

[QUOTE=Im Crimson;52850594]Some redditor presented the following explanation:[/QUOTE] See that kinda makes sense, but that's not how it's being used. Instead of someone building a home over an abandoned property that hasn't been used in 20 years, you have people moving in on someone's home when they leave the country, and then they come back and discover they're technically homeless. That is not okay.

[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;52850618]and then you have the extremely naive, feelgood organizations that want to "help them" by letting them sell street magazines of which money goes directly into some backroom fridge in their leader's villa.[/QUOTE] I've also seen Norwegian ex drug addicts selling them (I don't think they're homeless?). Yesterday there was someone who bought the magazine in a café (kulturhuset) but she couldn't give him cash or use vipps (vipps is an app that lets you easily send money to a phone number), she had to send an SMS which would charge her, he receives some OK message on the phone and then he was allowed to give the magazine to her. Maybe this is to prevent the money from disappearing? I think he said "you can't pay with cash anymore" or something to that extent implying it's a new thing.

Just break in and change the locks again. Force them out yourself. Squatters rights or no, it's your land. Not like they'll hold up in court.

I never understood the way governments bend the law, forcing a lock is a crime, breaking and entering is a crime, but as long as it supports squatting it's suddenly legal? Squatters rights aren't necessarily a bad thing, but it sure as hell isn't to be used for repossessing property.

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;52850661]Just break in and change the locks again. Force them out yourself. Squatters rights or no, it's your land. Not like they'll hold up in court.[/QUOTE] I can see [I]various[/I] practical problems with that, especially if you aren't keen on physically injuring someone.

Even if squatting isn't illegal whatever happened to break-and-enter laws?

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;52850673]Even if squatting isn't illegal whatever happened to break-and-enter laws?[/QUOTE] “We share the land comrade, your house is my house so I live here now.”

[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;52850618]after the "romani communities" in norway were found out to be >99% driven, funded, and organized by criminal gangs after the state broadcast did a documentary, the amount of muggings, prostitution-gone-robbery, and narcotics sales went down like crazy in the cities they operated in. people can tell me what they want but romanis are a real problem in europe. they have absolutely no interest in living normal lives and refuse to let their children go to school, they defecate in neighborhoods and in school yards, they live hundreds of people in tiny slum camps before they abandon them and move to the next municipality. and then you have the extremely naive, feelgood organizations that want to "help them" by letting them sell street magazines of which money goes directly into some backroom fridge in their leader's villa.[/QUOTE] I went to Paris last year and saw a "poor, Romani family" walking past us while we sat at a terrace. One of the women was nursing a baby while the other women and kids looked all sad. After an hour of getting money, the woman with the baby almost literally threw it in a bag and they suddenly walked off, even though before it looked like hey all had problems walking. Not to mention the baby was just a doll. Fuckkkkkk those guys

[QUOTE=double D;52850694]I went to Paris last year and saw a "poor, Romani family" walking past us while we sat at a terrace. One of the women was nursing a baby while the other women and kids looked all sad. After an hour of getting money, the woman with the baby almost literally threw it in a bag and they suddenly walked off, even though before it looked like hey all had problems walking. Not to mention the baby was just a doll. Fuckkkkkk those guys[/QUOTE] I'm glad that people on FP are finally agreeing with me on this, the last time I mentioned it here I got yelled at for being a racist.

[QUOTE=Im Crimson;52850594]Some redditor presented the following explanation: [quote]And, in a lot of places, if you're there illegally (meaning you just moved in rather than, say, got confused about where the property line was between your house and the next guy's house) you can't get squatter's rights no matter what.[/quote][/QUOTE] Isn't this the case here?

[QUOTE=Talishmar;52850717]Isn't this the case here?[/QUOTE] Yes, but what that means is that when the case gets taken to court you will not be given legal ownership of the property that you squatted on. That process can take months or years though, it doesn't mean the police can throw you out while that is ongoing.

This pisses me off on an existential level. You know that they're probably doing it because they know they can just shit the place up for the duration it takes for the legal procedure to wind up. Then disappear conveniently just in time. With thousands of dollars worth of property damage just being dumped on a completely innocent couple of people, and they will probably loose family-albums and a couple of heirlooms if the gypsies are just throwing their stuff out into the garden. It's just so utterly respect-less. And of course, now Belgium has to screw with a law that was meant to protect the well-being of the people, because these cunts see their host country as just a thing they can suck cash out of until they move on. They are doing everything they can to be literal human leeches.

The fact she had surgery the next day and needed her rest is what makes it worse, they slept at the woman's parents house instead and i guess they are basically living there now till this is all resolved.

This gets me so mad, I don't even know how I'd react if this happened to me The worst thing is that you can't force them out yourself

[QUOTE=phygon;52850716]I'm glad that people on FP are finally agreeing with me on this, the last time I mentioned it here I got yelled at for being a racist.[/QUOTE] Well you are discriminating against an entire ethnic group based on the actions of some of their members, so yeah, you are being a racist. Some of the comments on here directed towards gypsies is pretty gross. It reminds me of some of the horrid things I've heard people say about other races, particularly Aboriginals. I'll admit that I don't have much experience with gypsies, but I'm sure that if they weren't treated with such contempt by the majority of Europe that more of them would be able to escape poverty and lead honest lives. I mean seriously, what do you expect people who are heavily discriminated against to do? It's not like most of them are ever going to be able to get a job if everybody hates them. So they really have no other option that to resort to petty theft.

-I forgot everyone is under mandatory Poe's Law-

[QUOTE=Megadave;52850908]Squatters have rights too you know.[/QUOTE] Squatters are scum

[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;52850618]after the "romani communities" in norway were found out to be >99% driven, funded, and organized by criminal gangs after the state broadcast did a documentary, the amount of muggings, prostitution-gone-robbery, and narcotics sales went down like crazy in the cities they operated in. people can tell me what they want but romanis are a real problem in europe. they have absolutely no interest in living normal lives and refuse to let their children go to school, they defecate in neighborhoods and in school yards, they live hundreds of people in tiny slum camps before they abandon them and move to the next municipality. and then you have the extremely naive, feelgood organizations that want to "help them" by letting them sell street magazines of which money goes directly into some backroom fridge in their leader's villa.[/QUOTE] In my line of work (security guard) I just throw them out of the stores I guard. All they do is scout the location then come back to steal. The problem we have in Sweden is that begging isn't illegal so the gypsies can set up their camps all they want with no consequences. What pisses me off the most are the people who claim that "there's no such thing as organized begging". Uh okay so half of Romania just happen to know the exact location of every ICA supermarket, IKEA and Coop? They just happen to know the same camping spots for their improvised trailer ghettos used by the previous gang a month before? In that case they must also be doing some reverse Robin Hood charity since they hand off money to sleazy-looking men who drive sportscars as soon as they greet them.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;52850878]Well you are discriminating against an entire ethnic group based on the actions of some of their members, so yeah, you are being a racist. Some of the comments on here directed towards gypsies is pretty gross. It reminds me of some of the horrid things I've heard people say about other races, particularly Aboriginals. I'll admit that I don't have much experience with gypsies, but I'm sure that if they weren't treated with such contempt by the majority of Europe that more of them would be able to escape poverty and lead honest lives. I mean seriously, what do you expect people who are heavily discriminated against to do? It's not like most of them are ever going to be able to get a job if everybody hates them. So they really have no other option that to resort to petty theft.[/QUOTE] "I don't have any personal experience with these people but I still think I know what I'm talking about." Dude I hate to generalize and I'm not gonna tell you we need another gypsy genocide but Jesus Christ, 90% of the time they act as parasites. What little compassion you once had is long gone after seeing all the shady shit they do, not to mention how the criminals organizing the entire treat the beggars themselves like human garbage. They need to go because they refuse to integrate (don't think they can in the first place without proper education) and tensions are just growing stronger. What's easier? Tell all the gypsies to GTFO or reassure the population that the parasites on the streets are not actually criminals but honest people whom happen to steal shit every now and then, just like any other average Joe.

The reason people always appear to be racist towards Romani people is because, as far as I can gather, their very culture is based around being a counterculture to wherever they live. In other words, they consider themselves beholden to no law but their own, and seem to believe they can go where they will, do what they want and take what they want. With such a culture, no act of kindness goes unpunished. It's perfectly fair to criticize them if this is true, isn't it? Of course, if I've got the wrong idea, please correct me.

[QUOTE=Megadave;52850908]Squatters have rights too you know.[/QUOTE] Somehow I'm willing to believe your stance on this would shatter the instant it became your house being squatted in.

[QUOTE=Tamschi;52850670]I can see [I]various[/I] practical problems with that, especially if you aren't keen on physically injuring someone.[/QUOTE] This is exactly why I'm happy with defend-your-home gun laws If a shotgun doesn't convince them then the noise will [editline]3rd November 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Darth Ninja;52850878]Well you are discriminating against an entire ethnic group based on the actions of some of their members, so yeah, you are being a racist.[/QUOTE] if they're like me then, they don't think they're terrible people because of their race, they think they're terrible people because of their toxic culture [QUOTE=Megadave;52850908]Squatters have rights too you know.[/QUOTE] Are you saying home owners don't have rights over their own home? I don't understand, whats the point of saying this? What kind of revolutionary argument is this?

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;52850878]Well you are discriminating against an entire ethnic group based on the actions of some of their members, so yeah, you are being a racist. Some of the comments on here directed towards gypsies is pretty gross. It reminds me of some of the horrid things I've heard people say about other races, particularly Aboriginals. I'll admit that I don't have much experience with gypsies, but I'm sure that if they weren't treated with such contempt by the majority of Europe that more of them would be able to escape poverty and lead honest lives. I mean seriously, what do you expect people who are heavily discriminated against to do? It's not like most of them are ever going to be able to get a job if everybody hates them. So they really have no other option that to resort to petty theft.[/QUOTE] Romani people that leave their camps are not considered gypsies by most Europeans, just Eastern-European. The only identifier for these people is that they live in camps rife with squalor.