Australia plans to deny passports to convicted paedophiles - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE]The proposal, to be introduced to parliament, would prohibit registered sex offenders from travelling overseas. Justice Minister Michael Keenan said it would affect about 20,000 offenders who had completed punishments but remained under monitoring by authorities. Sex offenders would be able to apply for passports if they were no longer on the register, the government said. "No country has ever taken such decisive and strong action to stop its citizens from going overseas, often to vulnerable countries, to abuse kids," Mr Keenan said. About 800 registered sex offenders travelled overseas from Australia in 2016, according to the government.[/QUOTE] For more info, visit this source: [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-40089351"]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-40089351[/URL]

On one hand, I can kinda understand where they are coming from On the other hand, not even pedophiles deserve to be stuck in australia

[quote]Sex offenders would be able to apply for passports if they were no longer on the register, the government said.[/quote] sounds alright to me. the people who are presently a danger don't get to leave. That's assuming the list is managed well in Australia. It's not in the US so it'd be a terrible idea here.

This seems pretty unfair. Why not just stop them from going to the "vulnerable countries" instead?

I've no issue with this, except perhaps the small minority of those on the register who made it there due to being stupid exchanging photos around in school. It'd be yet another thing to shit up their lives for stupid mistakes they made in high school. That being said I've no idea how the register actually works, so I don't know if my argument holds any merit.

If you get removed from the register within a reasonable amount of time I suppose this is acceptable, but if it's a US-style register that you're stuck with due to public urination for the rest of your life then it's not

[QUOTE=SamPerson123;52291098]This seems pretty unfair. Why not just stop them from going to the "vulnerable countries" instead?[/QUOTE] I don't think the Australian government can do that. The best they could do is put sex offender status on the passports and leave it up to the receiving countries as to whether they want to let those people in.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;52291123]If you get removed from the register within a reasonable amount of time I suppose this is acceptable, but if it's a US-style register that you're stuck with due to public urination for the rest of your life then it's not[/QUOTE] From ABC's article about this: [quote]The register contains 3,200 serious offenders who will be banned from travel for life. Less serious offenders drop off the register after several years of complying with reporting conditions and would become eligible to have their passports renewed.[/quote]

So essentially they're keeping them captive in the country long after their prison term is up.

Good, sex tourism with underaged victims is a shitty problem in SEA and whatnot

Conflicted on this, seems a bit harsh. But it sounds like you can get off the list if you rehabilitate and such so maybe its okay?

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52290923]sounds alright to me. the people who are presently a danger don't get to leave. That's assuming the list is managed well in Australia. It's not in the US so it'd be a terrible idea here.[/QUOTE] You can leave the register there? In the US I'm fairly certain it follows you for life.

This is a good thing, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52291370]You can leave the register there? In the US I'm fairly certain it follows you for life.[/QUOTE] The federal government has classification of sex offenders. Highly serious offenders have 0 chance of getting off the list. Lower risk are eligible after 10 years but it's up to the state. Not all states have adopted federal rules, and those that don't have their own systems in place. This is a good thing. There's a massive problem of westerners traveling to SEA and exploiting children. Hopefully the rest of Europe and the USA will start to do this

[QUOTE=geel9;52291320]So essentially they're keeping them captive in the country long after their prison term is up.[/QUOTE] Not all sentences are carried out only in jail, cept you live in merica where that's normal.

Never been a fan of blanket bans. There's no obvious problems when you look at it purely in stopping high risk, contact offenders from going abroad to do harm, but instead of limiting it to these individuals they're proposing to just make it everyone on the register. I'm just speculating but this might be a response to the activities of Horrific Bastard, and Australia's worst recent export, Peter Scully. Thing is, Scully was never on the register. He was fleeing from fraud offenses, and had no problem going to the Philippines and doing something worse than any registered offender has committed in recent memory. This law would do fuck all to stop people like him. Meanwhile I recall a guy getting put on the register in Australia for looking at cartoon Simpsons porn, so this would stop an extremely dangerous individual such as him. Assuming there's anything close to a decent offender rehabilitation program in Australia you'd also hope people who've been through that process have a lower chance of reoffending.

[QUOTE=GalacticPunt;52291904]Meanwhile I recall a guy getting put on the register in Australia for looking at cartoon Simpsons porn, so this would stop an extremely dangerous individual such as him. Assuming there's anything close to a decent offender rehabilitation program in Australia you'd also hope people who've been through that process have a lower chance of reoffending.[/QUOTE] Just an fyi about the guy you mentioned, he was already on the register for child porn a few years before but I do see your point. It would be pretty shit if some guy got barred from leaving the country because of something minor like being sent nudes (whilst still underage) from his underage gf and vice versa as has happened in places like the US.