Football club in Sweden threatens to shutdown after kids witness murders - Sensationalist Headlines

[url]https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vast/hotar-att-lagga-ner-efter-det-dodliga-valdet[/url] (Swedish source) [QUOTE]When one of the girl football teams in Angered MBIK witnessed a murder attempt last week on Hjällbo's training field, it became too much for the leaders of the club. The association with 400 children now threatens to shut down the operation because the children doesn't feel safe. In the last six months, the football association Angered MBIK members has been close to the deadly violence in the area. In October last year, the club's juniors found a dead man outside their clubhouse. A few weeks ago, a teacher was shot to death outside the Lövskolan school while the local schools held a running competition. Children had to run into the clubhouse and lock themselves in when the police blocked the area in search of suspects. Most recently in the row was the shootings on Tuesday evening last week when a girl football team had their final football training at Bläsebovallen in Hjällbo before the summer break. Then the girls witnessed a man shot in the stomach. In an open letter to Göteborg's city politicians, one of the leaders writes that they saw people running for their lives and that: "I broke down when I saw how the parents hugged their crying children, I am so sad and crushed that innocent children needed to see something like this on a soccer field, one of the girls was just silent, she could not say anything, her eyes were empty and stared right into the ground."[/QUOTE] This is happening in Sweden's second largest city, I think it's completely unbelievable.

[IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/se.png[/IMG] Wtf? I could expect this coming from: [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/ar.png[/IMG] or [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/ve.png[/IMG] or [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/br.png[/IMG] But not Sweden.

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;52383143][IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/se.png[/IMG] Wtf? I could expect this coming from: [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/ar.png[/IMG] or [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/ve.png[/IMG] or [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/br.png[/IMG] But not Sweden.[/QUOTE] And they call Austraila a nanny country.

Why on earth is there shootings? Does the article mention that?

If i'm not mistaken Angered has some gangs, might be gang related

I might misunderstand this situation, but this isn't particularly unreasonable. If there has been over three attempts at murder, some of them successful in an area with a lot of young children, you wouldn't feel safe. You can't continue what you do at this rate. Shutting it down doesn't mean permanently either. Just until things are able to be contained.

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;52383143][IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/se.png[/IMG] Wtf? I could expect this coming from: [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/ar.png[/IMG] or [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/ve.png[/IMG] or [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/flags/br.png[/IMG] But not Sweden.[/QUOTE] Are you saying your country doesn't have gangs shooting and throwing grenades at each other? Do you live in Monaco or something? This is just part of a modern society and the only reason you haven't heard about these things before is because they've been covered up, media is much more pervasive nowadays so it's only natural that the truth is revealed.

[QUOTE=lanhacker1488;52383472]Are you saying your country doesn't have gangs shooting and throwing grenades at each other? [/QUOTE] I mean... yes?

[QUOTE=lanhacker1488;52383472]Are you saying your country doesn't have gangs shooting and throwing grenades at each other? Do you live in Monaco or something? This is just part of a modern society and the only reason you haven't heard about these things before is because they've been covered up, media is much more pervasive nowadays so it's only natural that the truth is revealed.[/QUOTE] Are you being sarcastic, because grenades usually aren't used in crimes.

[QUOTE=RB33;52383507]Are you being sarcastic, because grenades usually aren't used in crimes.[/QUOTE] Am I being sarcastic? Did we, the swedes, not get what we asked for? A diverse country like the US, with comparable (rising) social tensions and organized crime, insane segregation levels, just all the good things one could wish for when imitating a worldwide leader. This is just the new normalcy, just as people living in big cities have to be prepared to endure terrorist attacks, citizens of a modern western country need to be prepared to endure gang crime. I'm not claiming that grenades are generally used in crimes, but they are used in gang wars in Sweden. Have a look at [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden[/url]

[QUOTE=lanhacker1488;52383580]Am I being sarcastic? Did we, the swedes, not get what we asked for? A diverse country like the US, with comparable (rising) social tensions and organized crime, insane segregation levels, just all the good things one could wish for when imitating a worldwide leader. This is just the new normalcy, just as people living in big cities have to be prepared to endure terrorist attacks, citizens of a modern western country need to be prepared to endure gang crime. I'm not claiming that grenades are generally used in crimes, but they are used in gang wars in Sweden. Have a look at [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden[/url][/QUOTE] And on today's episode of Learning With lanhacker1488, we're taking an exciting look into the wonderful world of passive-aggressive political commentary! It's absolutely terrible to hear about these things happening so close to the schools. School shootings / stabbings are always a tragedy, no matter the country of origin.

sweden is the only western country i hear of grenade attacks being a fairly common enough occurrence to deserve its own wikipedia article. i'm surprised the supplies have held out for as long as they have

[QUOTE=RB33;52383507]Are you being sarcastic, because grenades usually aren't used in crimes.[/QUOTE] Have you been living under a rock the last like 30 years? Rockers have used current(at the time) rocket launchers at each other, and hell, in some cases they've been found to be equipped with stuff that's better than our militaries(DK/SWE/NOR) have :v:

Surely this has nothing to do with Aloha Snack bars. :v

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52384005]sweden is the only western country i hear of grenade attacks being a fairly common enough occurrence to deserve its own wikipedia article. i'm surprised the supplies have held out for as long as they have[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden[/url] Note that majority of them are also in one particular city too. It's not quite that widespread I suppose.

[QUOTE=Talishmar;52383232]Why on earth is there shootings? Does the article mention that?[/QUOTE] Shootings in this city tends to be organized crime groups making revenge attacks against each other. Sweden has it's fair share of drugs, gangs and crime cartels.

[QUOTE=Ax3l;52384805][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden[/url] Note that majority of them are also in one particular city too. It's not quite that widespread I suppose.[/QUOTE] Woah, 20 kronor for a hand grenade :v:

For that (black market) price, they must be really bad hand-grenades. Either that or they just really want to get rid off them.

[QUOTE=Ax3l;52385874]For that (black market) price, they must be really bad hand-grenades. Either that or they just really want to get rid off them.[/QUOTE] They're smuggled in mass from the Baltic/ex-soviet states. I think 20 SEK is not very accurate, other articles seem to quote them at 500 KR (50€) a piece. But it's still very cheap for such a deadly device.

Last year the police found some grenades hidden in the ceiling of an apartment building in my neighborhood. Don't know how people get them but they don't seem hard to find if you have the connections.

Holy shit. I doubt even the USA has that many of them floating around on the black market; and any of them actually being used in attacks is pretty much unheard of.

[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;52386883]Holy shit. I doubt even the USA has that many of them floating around on the black market; and any of them actually being used in attacks is pretty much unheard of.[/QUOTE] Well ofcourse not, it's way more lucrative to smuggle them to Mexico. The cartels are now armed with Cold War-era US made grenades.

[QUOTE=Black Pete;52386912]Well ofcourse not, it's way more lucrative to smuggle them to Mexico. The cartels are now armed with Cold War-era US made grenades.[/QUOTE] I know our government agencies are dumb enough to ship guns straight to Mexican cartels, but I didn't think that also included explosives. Are you sure the Cartels didn't just raid an armory or find corrupt officials willing to sell them shit? I mean, this IS Mexico we're talking about.

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;52383325]How's that ignorantic stereotype coming along[/QUOTE] So....you're either telling me that we have Sweden's level of violence Or that Sweden has our level of violence? Which one?

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;52387171]So....you're either telling me that we have Sweden's level of violence Or that Sweden has our level of violence? Which one?[/QUOTE] At the end of the day, isn't that the same thing? :v:

[QUOTE=Crimor;52387197]At the end of the day, isn't that the same thing? :v:[/QUOTE] No, it's different. You're telling me that they have gangs which cut up people, then make empanadas out of them and force the remaining enemy gang members to eat them or little soldiers watching out drug bunkers. Or that we have some grenade attacks and our murders by firearms are among the lowest in the world.

I mean as a dane, that first one sounds like a swede to me, though surstromming instead of empanadas.

[QUOTE=Crimor;52387256]I mean as a dane, that first one sounds like a swede to me, though surstromming instead of empanadas.[/QUOTE] now that's a quick way to make someone avoid eating something

There are some primary reasons why there have been so many grenade attacks and grenades circulating in Malmö, and Sweden in general. Organized crime aside, as mentioned in this thread, a grenade can costs as low as 2 euros,[B] sometimes given in crates for free[/B] if you buy a batch of pistols or assault rifles. Apparently the reason is that no one uses them in the Balkans, where a lot of our illegal weapons comes from, and storing them is risky. Another interesting reason is that grenades doesn't count as "weapons", but rather they are "explosive wares". So they fall under another section of the law. The punishment for handling explosive wares is less severe than handling weapons like pistols or rifles. It is possible for to get away with just a fine for possessing hand grenades. It is [B]not illegal to bring explosive wares over the border[/B], only possessing them is illegal. So you should technically be able to bring truckloads of grenades over to Sweden, and not be convicted of smuggling. Strange laws... Supposedly the most common hand grenades is the M75 and variants of it. [t]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EF2Fv2ig3iY/V2RiqJE03HI/AAAAAAAABIk/ItMuI8SXDssqsvPOBeBg16T5_bh3MM1vACKgB/s1600/2nrzcrb.jpg[/t][t]http://www.lexpev.nl/images/m93open.jpg[/t] The government has talked about stricter laws, classifying hand grenades as weapons, bla bla bla, but shit is happening very slow. Some Swedish sources: [url]https://www.svd.se/fritt-fram-ta-in-handgranater-i-sverige[/url] [url]https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/billigare-att-kopa-handgranat-an-en-falafel[/url]

Would a rocket launcher, like an RPG-7 for example, be considered a "weapon" or an "explosive ware"? Because if the penalties for handling an RPG-7 are less severe than handling a 9mm handgun... Well, :vs: