Man fatally shoots daughter during gun saftely lesson - Sensationalist Headlines

"An Indiana man has been charged for fatally shooting his 9-year-old daughter in the head while teaching his two sons about gun safety.On June 10, Eric Hummel, 33, from Hobart, Indiana, was telling his sons about the dangers of playing with guns when his daughter Olivia walked into the room, [I]People[/I][I],[/I] citing court documents, reports. Unaware that the gun was loaded, he said he pointed it toward her and fired." Source: [URL="http://time.com/4842468/dad-shoots-daughter-gun-safety-lesson/"]http://time.com/4842468/dad-shoots-daughter-gun-safety-lesson/ [/URL]

Clearly this idiot doesn't know a damn thing about gun safety and should never own one. I only just learned to shoot and I was taught you never aim it at someone else, you make sure that the clip is out, and that there are no bullets in the barrel. On top of this you make sure if the gun has a safety, to USE THE FUCKING SAFETY. Adding to this, if you're fucking finger isn't on the trigger, behold, it won't actually fire! The fact that the idiot tried to as a "demonstration of safety" is baffling.

I guess we know what wickedplayer has been up to

I can never understand how these accidents could happen. I can understand how someone dumb and irresponsible could point the gun at someone for a few laughs, but why would you ever pull the trigger?

[quote]Unaware that the gun was loaded, he said he pointed it toward her and fired.[/quote] [highlight]WHAT THE FUCK.[/highlight] You're going to teach about "gun safety" while breaking the first three fucking rules in one swift motion. Fucking idiot. Three rules everyone should know, that he broke all at once: 1. Treat all weapons as if they are loaded, even if you know they are not. 2. Do not point a gun at anything you do not want destroyed. 3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you fire.

Why is it every time someone accidentally shoots someone during a 'training' or similar circumstance they get a fat hard-on and feel the need to blow it up into a whole story. Yea, we get it, irony dude.

The guy who shot with me has this pretty great saying. Wish these people would follow it. "If your booger finger ain't on the trigger, it ain't firin." This story is tragic but it goes to show we clearly need to enforce some sort of learning before letting people buy guns.

[QUOTE=Nookyava;52443666]Adding to this, if you're fucking finger isn't on the trigger, behold, it won't actually fire! The fact that the idiot tried to as a "demonstration of safety" is baffling.[/QUOTE] You can't even rely on this - that's why the first thing you do when you pick up ANY gun is clear the chamber. The safest gun you can hold is one that you have inspected and cleared yourself, and the fact that this guy totally missed that step is sufficient evidence to show that he should never touch a gun again.

[QUOTE=X12321;52443685]Why is it every time someone accidentally shoots someone during a 'training' or similar circumstance they get a fat hard-on and feel the need to blow it up into a whole story. Yea, we get it, irony dude.[/QUOTE] Because apparently people still think "oh, this won't happen to me!" The rules are really simple. ALWAYS assume gun is loaded, even if you think it's not. NEVER point it at a person, or anything else you don't want to destroy. In fact it's a good idea to keep it pointed down at the ground until you're either putting it down or raising it to aim at your target. Keep your finger OFF THE TRIGGER until you are prepared to fire. And people are still stupid enough to somehow accidentally shoot loved ones. In theory it should be fine for everyone to have a gun because these rules seem like common sense, but they're not, depressingly enough. Personally gun ownership needs to be something taken far more seriously (especially in the US), with an exam on safety going into great detail so you need to bust your ass studying enough that you'll at least remember the basics. I don't see how legal gun ownership can work otherwise, because it's not working right now.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;52443692]You can't even rely on this - that's why the first thing you do when you pick up ANY gun is clear the chamber. The safest gun you can hold is one that you have inspected and cleared yourself, and the fact that this guy totally missed that step is sufficient evidence to show that he should never touch a gun again.[/QUOTE] Which is why the rest of my post was started with that before I reached that point.

[QUOTE=Nookyava;52443729]Which is why the rest of my post was started with that before I reached that point.[/QUOTE] Well yeah, I was reiterating that, not trying to correct you - sorry if it came off that way!

[QUOTE=joost1120;52443683]I can never understand how these accidents could happen. I can understand how someone dumb and irresponsible could point the gun at someone for a few laughs, but why would you ever pull the trigger?[/QUOTE] Because dumb and irresponsible people have easy access to guns.

I don't even own any guns, and even I fucking know better. As sad as this situation is, the dude really should have used common sense, especially during a SAFETY lesson.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;52443738]Well yeah, I was reiterating that, not trying to correct you - sorry if it came off that way![/QUOTE] All good, to be honest reiteration of safety is never a bad thing.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52443684][highlight]WHAT THE FUCK.[/highlight] You're going to teach about "gun safety" while breaking the first three fucking rules in one swift motion. Fucking idiot. Three rules everyone should know, that he broke all at once: 1. Treat all weapons as if they are loaded, even if you know they are not. 2. Do not point a gun at anything you do not want destroyed. [b]3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you fire.[/b][/QUOTE] Well technically....

I don't wanna know what it feels like to know that one of your children died because you fucked up.

[quote]Moments before shooting, Hummel allegedly said, "See don’t play with guns" and then shot[/quote] I fucking hate it when stuff like this happens. It's easy to just not point the gun at someone, it's easy to not load the gun, and it's easy to not pull the trigger-- yet dumbasses like this keep managing to do all three. :scream:

[quote]Unaware that the gun was loaded, he said he pointed it toward her and fired.[/quote] Blatantly ignores the first rule of gun ownership but thinks he's capable of teaching his sons gun safety. What a combination. [quote]Hummel, who has entered a not guilty plea, faces 20 to 40 years on the neglect of a dependent resulting in death charge, which is a Level 1 felony, according to People.[/quote] Jesus, even the low end of that is awful. Even if he hits the absolute minimum of that, both his sons will go entirely through high school without their father.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52443828] Even if he hits the absolute minimum of that, both his sons will go entirely through high school without their father.[/QUOTE] Not to mention the sons'll have to live with the trauma of seeing their sister shot point blank Really messed up stuff

I remember what my father told me about the first lesson on gun safety he had as a kid, I think it was at a boy scout camp or something. The man giving the demonstration said something along the lines of: "This is an unloaded (whatever gun, it was a long time ago and I don't remember the specifics), blah blah blah..." And then he turned towards the woods and fired it, as there was a blank in the chamber. Then, he turned back around and said really loud "Lesson number one, the gun is ALWAYS loaded." I got no problem with guns but people need to treat a deadly weapon as what it is: A deadly weapon, and it fucking sucks that there are people out there that don't, and who are a danger to those around them because of it. His daughter didn't deserve to die, his sons didn't deserve to see their sister shot at point blank, and he didn't deserve to lose his daughter, even as idiotic as what he did was. But that's what happened, and now they all have to live with it because he didn't treat a tool which an adult [I]should[/I] be mature enough to safely handle with the proper respect.

Its amazing that this idiot didn't die as a child drinking bleach or something

[QUOTE=Nookyava;52443666]Clearly this idiot doesn't know a damn thing about gun safety and should never own one. I only just learned to shoot and I was taught you never aim it at someone else, you make sure that the clip is out, and that there are no bullets in the barrel. On top of this you make sure if the gun has a safety, to USE THE FUCKING SAFETY. Adding to this, if you're fucking finger isn't on the trigger, behold, it won't actually fire! The fact that the idiot tried to as a "demonstration of safety" is baffling.[/QUOTE] First thing you learn. Treat the gun like it is ALWAYS loaded. NEVER point it at someone else.

This is so ironic in such a tragic and unfunny way.

[QUOTE=Nookyava;52443666]Adding to this, if you're fucking finger isn't on the trigger, behold, it won't actually fire![/QUOTE] Even this is not guaranteed. Trigger discipline is important, but guns and cartridges can malfunction in bizarre ways (e.g. overheated cartridges spontaneously igniting). This is why the second rule of gun safety is so important: do not POINT the gun at anything you do not WISH TO DESTROY.

[quote]Unaware that the gun was loaded, he said he pointed it toward her and fired."[/quote] a person this stupid should not be allowed to be near children with weapons

[QUOTE=Judas;52443989]a person this stupid should not be allowed to be near children with weapons[/QUOTE] shouldn't be allowed near weapons, period

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52444071]shouldn't be allowed near weapons, period[/QUOTE] Well then what do you propose as a solution? In my years on fp having gun debates, Ive come to understand that people don't take possible infringements on their second amendment rights lightly.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;52443760]Because dumb and irresponsible people have easy access to guns.[/QUOTE] Also probably over relaxed around a gun, thinking you'd be fine. Seems like something that happens to quite a lot of people, from jihadists that blow themselves up in practice with bombs, to NRA members, as we've heard of before, and laughed at.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;52444091]Well then what do you propose as a solution? In my years on fp having gun debates, Ive come to understand that people don't take possible infringements on their second amendment rights lightly.[/QUOTE] They've lost the right. The guy flat out shot his child in an attempt to show "gun safety". He's proven he can't be trusted as he's just committed involuntary manslaughter. It's like if you drink and drive, and kill someone - you can and most likely will lose your license.

What was he even teaching them? "Here are the rules of gun safety that, if followed, guarantee you'll never accidentally shoot someone" *proceeds to break all of the aforementioned rules*