Kenyan doctor performs brain surgery on wrong patient
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[QUOTE]NAIROBI (WASHINGTON POST) - A Kenyan neurosurgeon and his medical team opened a patient's skull last month to remove a blood clot in the brain and came to a startling discovery: There wasn't one.
Kenya's Daily Nation reported that staff at Kenyatta National Hospital in Nairobi had mixed up two patients' identification tags before the surgery.
One patient required brain surgery to remove a clot, and the other needed treatment for brain swelling. The staff had been operating for hours before they realized the mistake.[/QUOTE]
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What a headache
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So did they just do the other treatment? Says one needed a clot removed and the other had swelling.
You know when you're just having one of those days at work
How do you mix up someones ID tags? Its not brain surgery.
The fuck, isn't the [URL="https://pssjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1754-9493-3-14"]TimeOut protocol[/URL] supposed to prevent bullshit like this? What kind of craptastic hospital is this where advanced procedures happen but basic, universal procedure like this isn't followed?
[QUOTE=snookypookums;53177279]The fuck, isn't the [URL="https://pssjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1754-9493-3-14"]TimeOut protocol[/URL] supposed to prevent bullshit like this? What kind of craptastic hospital is this where advanced procedures happen but basic, universal procedure like this isn't followed?[/QUOTE]
because Kenya is a developing country and not a first world country, I would imagine
That or a long comedy of errors
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;53177303]because Kenya is a developing country and not a first world country, I would imagine
That or a long comedy of errors[/QUOTE]
Neurosurgery is still neurosurgery. India's still considered a 'developing country', but it's one of the major centers for medical tourism worldwide.
This was just a colossal fuckup - that hospital needs to shut down, patients shifted out and the admin needs to be arrested because think of it this way: these people have a fuck up going on in what is likely a highly-specialized medical department where there's virtually no tolerance for fuck-ups at all. How bad do you want to bet the rest of the other 'policies' are in a hospital like this that need to be investigated and evaluated? Safe disposal of biohazardous materials? Blood contamination, in a country with 1.6 million people having HIV/AIDS?
This was a major fuck-up and a gross negligence of [I]basic[/I] protocol, fundamental for any procedure, not just for brain surgery.
someone didn't get it through their thick skull and confirm the patient before doing brain surgery.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;53177279]The fuck, isn't the [URL="https://pssjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1754-9493-3-14"]TimeOut protocol[/URL] supposed to prevent bullshit like this? What kind of craptastic hospital is this where advanced procedures happen but basic, universal procedure like this isn't followed?[/QUOTE]
If this happened in a western nation you'd have a point. But it happened in Kenya, where they're lucky to even have a hospital. A large swath of their neighboring countries still rely on fucking shamanism for healing needs.
I'm not surprised they mixed this up.
[QUOTE=TestECull;53177454]If this happened in a western nation you'd have a point. But it happened in Kenya, where they're lucky to even have a hospital. A large swath of their neighboring countries still rely on fucking shamanism for healing needs.
I'm not surprised they mixed this up.[/QUOTE]
dude errors like this happens in the west too, don't be so quick to shun it because it's Africa.
Hospitals should be a safe environment where fuck ups shouldn't exist, anywhere in the world, period
Fuck if you were the one who needed to get an operation while having a holiday in Kenya you better fucking hope the hospital is proper and doesn't fuck around
[QUOTE=TestECull;53177454]If this happened in a western nation you'd have a point. But it happened in Kenya, where they're lucky to even have a hospital. A large swath of their neighboring countries still rely on fucking shamanism for healing needs.
I'm not surprised they mixed this up.[/QUOTE]
How does any of this invalidate that they shouldve been following proper procedure?
A neurosurgeon in Kenyas still a fucking Neurosurgeon, at that point in their career they should have no problem knowing whos getting what operation
If we're all done dogpiling TestECull for daring to suggest that a developing nation has poor healthcare practices, when I actually lived in Kenya we were told to under no circumstances undergo major surgery in Kenya. In case of emergency we were to be medevaced to the UK or Germany for treatment.
Neurosurgeon or not, [url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4309502/]Kenya's hospital practices are poor[/url] and I find this article entirely unsurprising. And yes, this sort of thing happens a [i]lot[/i] more often there than in a developed country.
[QUOTE=TestECull;53177454]If this happened in a western nation you'd have a point. But it happened in Kenya, where they're lucky to even have a hospital. A large swath of their neighboring countries still rely on fucking shamanism for healing needs.
I'm not surprised they mixed this up.[/QUOTE]
Yeah did you know that Kenyan hospitals are actually mud huts and they do operations by flame light [sp]don't be so ignorant[/sp]
[QUOTE=AK'z;53177464]dude errors like this happens in the west too, don't be so quick to shun it because it's Africa.[/QUOTE]
Western Healthcare facilities typically have extremely strict organizations that monitor quality assurance. Look up “The Joint Comission” or TJC.
im sorry but this isn't about third world errors alone.
the issue here is a theatre one that occurs all over the world. being quick to dismiss this kind of error as merely a third world one is wrong because we can also learn from their mistakes.
there is a WHO checklist that is used all over the world to avoid this kind of error. so maybe more emphasis on this than just shutting down one discussion.
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[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;53179138]Western Healthcare facilities typically have extremely strict organizations that monitor quality assurance. Look up “The Joint Comission” or TJC.[/QUOTE]
im in london and i've seen and heard about these fuck ups occurring.
[editline]9th March 2018[/editline]
you can also bring up strict regulations but when you're under pressure, they tend to overlook the basics.
Kenya's medical facilities are shit and their doctors are of questionable competence. I am speaking from first hand experience, so the little sheltered college students in this thread who get their back up every time someone dares to accurately point out that a developing nation with a low average IQ might not be the best place to get a surgery can go spit.
On the other hand, medical fuckups happen [I]all over the world, including in some of the most prestigious facilities[/I]. Not just little fuckups either, major fuck ups.
[QUOTE=viramax;53195070]Kenya's medical facilities are shit and their doctors are of questionable competence. I am speaking from first hand experience, so the little sheltered college students in this thread who get their back up every time someone dares to accurately point out that a developing nation with a low average IQ might not be the best place to get a surgery can go spit.
On the other hand, medical fuckups happen [I]all over the world, including in some of the most prestigious facilities[/I]. Not just little fuckups either, major fuck ups.[/QUOTE]
This isn't some complex mistake, this is literally a case of mixing two people up
this is such a small mistake that regardless of where you get your treatment shouldn't happen
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