The last 2 British ISIS ‘Beatles’ have been captured in Syria - Sensationalist Headlines

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/last-2-british-isis-beatles-have-been-captured-syria-n846011[/url] [quote]Two ISIS fighters notorious for imprisoning and murdering Western hostages were captured on the battlefield in Syria in January, according to three U.S. officials. The men were part of a group of four jihadis dubbed the Beatles by observers because of their British accents, and were caught by the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), a Kurdish and Arab militia fighting both ISIS and the Assad regime. Their capture was first reported by The New York Times. Officials identified the two as Alexandar Amon Kotey and El Shafee Elsheikh, and they were the last of the four Beatles on the battlefield. The best-known member of the group, Mohammed Emwazi, aka Jihadi John, who was seen and heard on videos beheading prisoners, was killed in an airstrike in Raqqa, Syria, in November 2015. The fourth member, Aine Davis, is in Turkish custody. All four men were from West London.[/quote]

Not even the best bomber in Damascus.

Hahaha choke on a bag of dicks you fucking neanderthals, you're a fucking disgrace to this country. I don't see chances doing so well for those captured by the SDF (not that I'll shed a tear if they end up strung up like their victims) but I'd like to hope that there's some mechanism that allows for them to be taken into custody and placed on trial. It would be a great big 'fuck you' to deny them martyrdom with a few centuries' worth of life sentences.

Oh god, it's like an actual Four Lions scenario.

UK defence minister Tobias Ellwood has called for them to be sent to the Hague for trial [url]https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/isis-beatles-must-not-go-to-guantanamo-says-defence-minister-krwxjcvfr[/url]

Fuck sending them to Hauge, hand them over too the Iraqis and let them deal with them.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53119667]Fuck sending them to Hauge, hand them over too the Iraqis and let them deal with them.[/QUOTE] Yeah because 'an eye for an eye' always works so well right?

[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;53119672]Yeah because 'an eye for an eye' always works so well right?[/QUOTE] You're talking to the most bloodthirsty member on this forum.

[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;53119672]Yeah because 'an eye for an eye' always works so well right?[/QUOTE] You are talking about rabid dogs that do not even understand the meaning of mercy. Those who would willingly sell their neighbors off too slavery, destroy cultural heritage sites, and slaughter people in droves. I'd rather hand them off too those directly harmed by their activities, namely the Iraqi and Syrian people. Hague will make a bunch of sob bullshit, and let them off with little less then a 5 ~ 10 year sentence. The ICC is a joke.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53119688]You are talking about rabid dogs that do not even understand the meaning of mercy. Those who would willingly sell their neighbors off too slavery, destroy cultural heritage sites, and slaughter people in droves. I'd rather hand them off too those directly harmed by their activities, namely the Iraqi and Syrian people. Hague will make a bunch of sob bullshit, and let them off with little less then a 5 ~ 10 year sentence. The ICC is a joke.[/QUOTE] Look, I know it's in the nature for americans to hate on the EU/UN/ICC/anything european but in reality these organizations do work, albeit slowly. Yes, these warcriminals are indeed nothing more than beasts (animals would imply they have any emotion beyond raw hatred) but executing them all on the spot will just continue the cycle of violence. I'd rather have them face trial and disappear into the messy bureaucracy of the ICC, spending years in solitary confinement in the wait for punishment and then another three or four decades once the verdict actually settles. Killing them turns them into martyrs, dropping them into a deep black hole where they'll never be able to harm or influence anyone every again is a much more cruel punishment for terrorists driven and motivated by propaganda.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53119667]Fuck sending them to Hauge, hand them over too the Iraqis and let them deal with them.[/QUOTE] They sure as hell shouldn't be sent off to Guantanamo, better to spite these murderous pricks by giving them a real trial rather than making them martyrs - and I think it would be more appropriate if they were put on trial by the people of the nation they committed crimes against, if only because if anyone has a right to justice it's them - they might have killed foreign hostages but I guarantee you that the majority of their victims were Iraqis. Not a lynch mob though - a real trial and sentencing. If that can't be done, maybe then sending them off to the Hague.

Life imprisonment would be too good for them.

[QUOTE=_Maverick_;53119813]Life imprisonment would be too good for them.[/QUOTE] In a way it would be better than making them martyrs, forcing them to watch as the world around them carries on and denies them martyrdom. But at the same time I wouldn't blame people for being willing to lynch them/enact 'eye for an eye' justice given the horrifying things they did.

[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;53119672]Yeah because 'an eye for an eye' always works so well right?[/QUOTE] They're literally ISIS terrorists who joined willingly and were not pressed into service. They must pay for their crimes.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53119688]You are talking about rabid dogs that do not even understand the meaning of mercy. Those who would willingly sell their neighbors off too slavery, destroy cultural heritage sites, and slaughter people in droves. I'd rather hand them off too those directly harmed by their activities, namely the Iraqi and Syrian people. Hague will make a bunch of sob bullshit, and let them off with little less then a 5 ~ 10 year sentence. The ICC is a joke.[/QUOTE] so when you want a kangaroo court and an execution you just hand it off to the Middle East? has it occurred to you that that line of thinking might be more cluelessly interventionist than the alternative, or even out-and-out exploitative? frankly i'm starting to wonder what cause a seasoned court of human rights lawyers would have to disagree with you

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53119688]You are talking about rabid dogs that do not even understand the meaning of mercy. Those who would willingly sell their neighbors off too slavery, destroy cultural heritage sites, and slaughter people in droves. I'd rather hand them off too those directly harmed by their activities, namely the Iraqi and Syrian people. Hague will make a bunch of sob bullshit, and let them off with little less then a 5 ~ 10 year sentence. The ICC is a joke.[/QUOTE] You know, I'd point out the irony of letting your emotions dictate the lives and deaths of the murderers you hate so much, but you'd likely try and say "how dare you compare me to them". I'm not comparing you, but you [B]do[/B] share a few key qualities in how you view anger, emotion, and violence as well as "justice". [editline]9th February 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=_Maverick_;53119813]Life imprisonment would be too good for them.[/QUOTE] Ah yeah, so the people who are religiously driven to suicide and don't fear death, lets just kill them, give them the martydom and fame they want in the countries that they're fighting in/for just because. You put these fuckers on the stand, you make them cry in public that they regret their actions, you weaken the movement. You just fucking kill them? You strengthen the movement.

honestly idk why we came up with the whole 'liberal democracy' idea where 'the rule of law' matters if we're only going to apply the principles that come with that to people we like that's not how this works

[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;53120084]honestly idk why we came up with the whole 'liberal democracy' idea where 'the rule of law' matters if we're only going to apply the principles that come with that to people we like that's not how this works[/QUOTE] Its a global tragedy that if you want to avoid the rule of law, just ship the prisoners to another country where they can get the treatment you want them to get. Human rights should not vary from place to place. If someone holds the view that trial by jury is the correct form of justice (as I assume Joe holds for America), then it should apply world-wide. Anything less is being a massive hypocrite and a cock.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;53120058] Ah yeah, so the people who are religiously driven to suicide and don't fear death, lets just kill them, give them the martydom and fame they want in the countries that they're fighting in/for just because. You put these fuckers on the stand, you make them cry in public that they regret their actions, you weaken the movement. You just fucking kill them? You strengthen the movement.[/QUOTE] Do not put words in my mouth HumanAbyss. I am not demanding they be killed.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53119688]You are talking about rabid dogs that do not even understand the meaning of mercy. Those who would willingly sell their neighbors off too slavery, destroy cultural heritage sites, and slaughter people in droves. I'd rather hand them off too those directly harmed by their activities, namely the Iraqi and Syrian people. Hague will make a bunch of sob bullshit, and let them off with little less then a 5 ~ 10 year sentence. The ICC is a joke.[/QUOTE] Killing as a punishment is barbaric. "Well, they're extra bad" isn't going to change that.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53119688]I'd rather hand them off too those directly harmed by their activities, namely the Iraqi and Syrian people[/QUOTE] Their victims were American, British, and Japanese [img]https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/266C/production/_99963890_jihadi_victims-final_640-nc.png[/img]

In that case, is there some sort of international court which could try them for war crimes?

Recommend watching the James Foley documentary on Netflix. Cant beleive it took so long to get these guys.

[QUOTE=_Maverick_;53120122]Do not put words in my mouth HumanAbyss. I am not demanding they be killed.[/QUOTE] so what would you consider worse than life imprisonment lol

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;53120058]You know, I'd point out the irony of letting your emotions dictate the lives and deaths of the murderers you hate so much, but you'd likely try and say "how dare you compare me to them". I'm not comparing you, but you [B]do[/B] share a few key qualities in how you view anger, emotion, and violence as well as "justice".[/QUOTE] To be honest, its kind of frightening to see how similar the two extremist parts of the conflict really are They believe that escalated violence in response to violence is not only the right course of action, they also deem on the spot that any other alternative is useless. They want results now, they font know or care that the bill's gonna come knocking years down in the future

Interesting how advocating murder is bannable yet when you guys insinuate death through a governments hands its plenty fine. my merge!!!

If there was ever a cause for Capital Punishment, cunts like these would be it. Why waste hundreds of thousands on keeping them in prison when they could be removed entirely. Scum.

[QUOTE=No Party Hats;53120623]Interesting how advocating murder is bannable yet when you guys insinuate death through a governments hands its plenty fine. my merge!!![/QUOTE] Actually I recall someone recently being banned for advocating the death penalty. Don't remember where, unfortunately.

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[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;53120468]In that case, is there some sort of international court which could try them for war crimes?[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.icc-cpi.int[/url]