[quote](CNN)A US military member was killed and two others were wounded in Somalia when they were attacked while on a mission advising Somali National Army forces, US Africa Command confirmed Friday.
The US service member killed in action was a Navy SEAL, a US defense official told CNN.
The incident occurred Thursday during an operation against local al Qaeda affiliate al Shabaab 40 miles west of Mogadishu near the town of Barii. The wounded are receiving medical attention, another US defense official told CNN. The troops came under small arms fire.
The US troops were part of an ongoing US military program to advise and assist Somali ground forces. The mission was not part of the stepped-up effort in Somalia to conduct airstrikes and ground missions against terror targets.[/quote]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/05/politics/us-military-member-killed-somalia/index.html[/url]
The first US soldier killed in Somalia since Black Hawk Down
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52191671]The first US soldier killed in Somalia since Black Hawk Down[/QUOTE]
black hawk down is a movie not the actual conflict lol
[QUOTE=Garb;52191698]black hawk down is a movie lol[/QUOTE]
Based on true events.
[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;52191727]Based on true events.[/QUOTE]
Still weird just referring to it by the book/movie title.
[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;52191727]Based on true events.[/QUOTE]
not the point u goober
[QUOTE=Garb;52191698]black hawk down is a movie not an actual conflict lol[/QUOTE]
Joke's on you cus I checked before posting that and Bill Clinton referred to the conflict as "Black Hawk Down" in [url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/09/26/transcript-william-jefferson-clinton-on-fox-news-sunday.html]this 2006 interview[/url] :~)
bill clinton is wrong
[QUOTE=Garb;52191802]bill clinton is wrong[/QUOTE]
Whats the conflict called? real question.
The point stands gentleman that it's been 2+ decades, geez
A Nay Seal was killed, and you fucks are arguing about a movie title.
There's been quite a few SEALs wounded in operations around there in the past few years, so I suppose this was bound to happen. There was also that French DGSE operator that was left behind and killed during a botched raid with pictures of his body and kit posted all over the internet. Al-Shabaab is a very real threat in the region
[QUOTE]while on a mission advising[/QUOTE]
:quotes:
All these Seals kicking the bucket, rip bro
[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;52191906]A Nay Seal was killed, and you fucks are arguing about a movie title.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to facepunch
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52192298]:quotes:[/QUOTE]
Well it says they were there to advise [I]aswell[/I] as assist, so by assist I would assume actively aiding them in relevant operations.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;52192885]Welcome to facepunch[/QUOTE]
Such a lovely place~
[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;52191906]A Nay Seal was killed, and you fucks are arguing about a movie title.[/QUOTE]
Its not like people should care.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52191840]The Battle of Mogadishu... lol..[/QUOTE]
Operation Gothic Serpent, actually.
[QUOTE=Garb;52191698]black hawk down is a movie not the actual conflict lol[/QUOTE]
It's also been given the name Black Hawk Down since the release of the book.
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52191671]The first US soldier killed in Somalia since Black Hawk Down[/QUOTE]
SEALs are not soldiers.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52194768]SEALs are not soldiers.[/QUOTE]what are they then? is this another "soldiers/marines" tug-of-war type thing?
[QUOTE=Joazzz;52195736]what are they then? is this another "soldiers/marines" tug-of-war type thing?[/QUOTE]
They're part of the Navy. And not like "the Marines are technically part of the navy", SEALs are 100% navy men. If anything, just call them a servicemen. They're not even technically infantry.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;52195736]what are they then? is this another "soldiers/marines" tug-of-war type thing?[/QUOTE]
It's actually incorrect to consider a marine or sailor a soldier (a SEAL isn't a marine either, different classification). They're all troops or infantryman, but the former is not a soldier by definition. By virtue of this, what Emperor Scorpious said before was not wrong.
This is a very common misunderstanding, however. Members of the Air Force are also not soldiers due to similar reasons.
I wonder what the US KDR is post-vietnam
I'm no military buff but it seems like in modern conflicts it's pretty standard for the US military to roll through an area like a storm and take very few casualties.
[QUOTE=Foogooman;52196684]I wonder what the US KDR is post-vietnam
I'm no military buff but it seems like in modern conflicts it's pretty standard for the US military to roll through an area like a storm and take very few casualties.[/QUOTE]
There's video of us rolling down the highway into Baghdad with nothing but BRDMs and BTRs littering the sides of the highway, on fire, smoking, and more being actively engaged and we didn't even slow down. We gave no fucks
[QUOTE=TheTalon;52197494]There's video of us rolling down the highway into Baghdad with nothing but BRDMs and BTRs littering the sides of the highway, on fire, smoking, and more being actively engaged and we didn't even slow down. We gave no fucks[/QUOTE]you were there?
[QUOTE=Joazzz;52195736]what are they then? is this another "soldiers/marines" tug-of-war type thing?[/QUOTE]
Active Marine here. Let me make this really easy for y'all.
Army - Soldiers
Marines - Marines
Navy - Sailors
Air Force - Airmen
Coast Guard - Coast Guardsmen
SEALs are usually just referred to as SEALs, but they are all Sailors. Any other description of any of these service members is wrong.
There isn't a tug-of-war, these are the actual titles. I don't know how other countries do it, but there you go.
Those distinctions might make sense for someone who actually is part of the military, but I think on an internet forum it's kinda silly. As far as I'm concerned, more or less anyone employed by a military can be considered a soldier, and the point in insisting on using needlessly specific terminology eludes me.
[QUOTE=italics560;52199528]There isn't a tug-of-war, these are the actual titles.[/QUOTE]
He's not wrong, though. Nobody in this thread used the actual title of Soldier with a capital-S. Everyone outside the armed services uses the term 'soldier' with its colloquial meaning you can find in a dictionary, not as an actual title.
You don't see Navy personnel going apeshit over calling 'someone who works on a ship' a sailor, and pedantically insisting that a 'sailor' is specifically someone who serves in the Navy and nobody else, but this Marine-specific 'learn my pronouns' thing derails seemingly every military-related thread.
In general conversation I see it this way; soldier = combatant.
Being a soldier is a way of life, a career and a mindset. For me it would sound weird to say "He's a true sailor" instead of a "soldier" when it comes to any branch of military.
Then again I feel this conversation pops only with US military. Other countries are less picky.
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