Swiss hotel asks Jewish guests to shower before entering the pool - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE]The Paradies apartment hotel in the Alpine village of Arosa, in eastern Switzerland, has been accused of antisemitism after a guest posted to Facebook a picture of a notice near the hotel pool. “To our Jewish guests, women, men and children, please take a shower before you go swimming,” it said, adding: “If you break the rules I’m forced to [close] the swimming pool for you.” The Paradies manager, Ruth Thomann, who signed the notices, insisted to the Swiss newspaper 20Minutes that she was not antisemitic, and acknowledged that her “choice of words was a mistake”.[/QUOTE] [url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/15/swiss-hotel-accused-of-antisemitism-over-pool-warning]salsa[/url] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Editorializing title" - Mezzokoko))[/highlight]

Shoulda just not have specificed jews, that way you could have avoided controversy altogether lmao

This is one of the most idiotic stories I've ever heard. Of course should people shower before going into a pool, regardless of their fucking religion. I'm not sure if I'm just not getting it.

I will say, that is some hilariously bad choice of wording, I'm surprised she didn't notice it sooner.

Why the fuck would they ever specify?

[QUOTE=Callinstead;52576321]I will say, that is some hilariously bad choice of wording, I'm surprised she didn't notice it sooner.[/QUOTE] Could be she didn't really think over the connotations

All they had to do was [b]not[/b] add "jewish" to that sentence and everything would be fine, jesus.

[quote]Jacob Keidar, Israel’s ambassador to Switzerland, reportedly contacted the hotel and later informed Hotovely that the signs had been removed. But she was not satisfied and has reportedly demanded formal condemnation from the Swiss government. A Swiss foreign ministry spokesman said in an email that the ministry had been in contact with Keidar and had “outlined to him that Switzerland condemns racism, antisemitism and discrimination in any form”. ... On Tuesday the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, which confronts anti-Semitism and promotes human rights, published a letter asking Switzerland to “close [the] hotel of hate and penalise its management”. It called on Booking.com to remove the hotel from its directory “and explain the antisemitic cause of the removal on your website”. [/quote] I'm not sure what is worse, the fact that they posted the sign or they're acting like this in return.

[QUOTE=Trekintosh;52576323]Why the fuck would they ever specify?[/QUOTE] real talk, is there something i'm missing here? how does this make any sense?

Uhh is there a stereotype of Jews being dirty or something? Weird.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52576347]real talk, is there something i'm missing here? how does this make any sense?[/QUOTE] I'm saying why would they ever specify "jewish" guests, as opposed to just saying "guests must shower".

It's in the article why they specified Jews: [quote]he told the Blick newspaper that the apartment hotel currently had a lot of Jewish clients, and that other guests had complained that some of them did not shower before using the pool and had asked her to do something. “I wrote something naive on that poster,” she was quoted as saying, admitting that it would have been better simply to address all guests with the same message. The hotel is reportedly very popular with ultra-orthodox Jewish guests because it has been accommodating to their needs, including providing access to a freezer to store kosher food. Thomann told Blick that because the freezer was in a staff room, she had felt compelled to set times when the Jewish guests could access it to ensure staff could enjoy their “lunch and dinner in peace”.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Trekintosh;52576408]I'm saying why would they ever specify "jewish" guests, as opposed to just saying "guests must shower".[/QUOTE] yeah I'm agreeing with you lol

We're going to be seeing more stories like this pop up cause it's the hot new ticket for the media to cash in on. Having said that, it's still fucked up.

I thought for a second perhaps Jews have some crazy religion thing where they only shower at certain times or something and then I realized that I'm just being a fucking dumb shit.

Bad choice of words on their part, but you have to understand. A lot of orthodox Jews live their entire lives in their own cultural bubble, isolated from mainstream society. They simply do NOT know many things that would seem obvious to the rest of us, and chances are that they have no interest in adapting either.

[QUOTE=Bertie;52578962]Bad choice of words on their part, but you have to understand. A lot of orthodox Jews live their entire lives in their own cultural bubble, isolated from mainstream society. They simply do NOT know many things that would seem obvious to the rest of us, and chances are that they have no interest in adapting either.[/QUOTE] That's probably it. The hotel owner explained that a lot of Ultra Orthodox Jews staying at the hotel would often get in the pool with some of their clothes still on (shirts etc.) without showering first.

[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;52576331]I'm not sure what is worse, the fact that they posted the sign or they're acting like this in return.[/QUOTE] The sign was naive and a stupid mistake but this sounds like a personal vendetta.

[QUOTE=Pascall;52576396]Uhh is there a stereotype of Jews being dirty or something? Weird.[/QUOTE] I'm just explaining the double entendre in case people aren't picking up on it, but the word "shower" has a different meaning in the context antisemitism. In the context of antisemitism, more specifically the holocaust, it is usually referring to the death camps, where the prisoners at the camps (mostly Jewish) were instructed into the showers, where they would be sealed in and killed by gas. Loosely related, but Comedy Central has actually censored the word "Shower" in a stand-up special, since it was used in a joke about Nazism. Specifying that only the Jewish guests had to shower may have lead to them to believe the sign was referencing the holocaust and making a crude joke about the death of their ancestors. I don't think it was an intentional to reference that, but singling out a specific group of people by their race/religion is still discriminatory.

[QUOTE=sam6420;52579667]Public pools are gross, anyway..[/QUOTE] Yeah, because nobody has common courtesy All it takes is people showering before they get in and not pissing in the water but nobody can handle either of those

My god people get crazy over anything these days Anti semitic Why that reaction? The Wiesenthal centre should utterly fuck off.

either they thought they were being funny or they genuinely believe it is dangerous to have a jew in your pool unless you clean them first or something

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;52582693]either they thought they were being funny or they genuinely believe it is dangerous to have a jew in your pool unless you clean them first or something[/QUOTE] Read the thread. The hotel owner actually explained why they posted that sign.

i was hoping they could blag it by saying it was a typo but i got nothing

i've never encountered anyone who made it a point to shower before using a pool. shower before diving in a over-chlorinated water seems foolish