People stood by and filmed as police officer was kicked repeatedly on the floor - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE][B]A female police officer was kicked and punched in the head in a horrific attack filmed by a jeering crowd of revellers on new year’s eve.[/B] Shocking video footage that emerged online shows the officer cowering on the ground as a group of attackers violently attack. The incident took place in the early hours of Monday morning after police were called to Champigny-sur-Marne, a suburb in Paris, France. The footage shows a group of young men kicking and punching her in the head and body as others stand around filming and cheering. At one point they are seen stamping on her head as she desperately tries to protect herself.[/QUOTE] [url]http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/02/police-officer-kicked-around-like-rag-doll-people-stood-filmed-7196132/[/url] [url]https://www.thelocal.fr/20180102/france-shocked-by-new-years-eve-attacks-on-police[/url]

Sorry y'all I posted outta anger. I shouldn't have said what I said, but this shit just pisses me off. I'd still have done something, and honestly it would have been to hit one of the attackers upside the head, but that;s me, I'm not violent, but I hate to see things like this, and I ain't always the best with my words.

Why would you do that. Sick fucks.

They even filmed it... Bastards.

Don't police in France have guns? It's a bit out there but being beaten by a huge mob could very easily turn lethal. You're probably be justified in using lethal force.

Bystander effect is one hell of a drug

[QUOTE=download;53022774]Don't police in France have guns? It's a bit out there but being beaten by a huge mob could very easily turn lethal. You're probably be justified in using lethal force.[/QUOTE] They do, but the usage of your handgun is incredibly restricted by French law, when a cop fires his pistol, there's always an investigation on wether it's usage was justified or not so the cops are very cautious. There's also the risk of starting multiple riots in some neighborhoods, there's been people protesting against police brutality because 2 dude who tried to flee from a police control were ran over by a train (or a bus, I don't remember), so imagine if one of the fuckers in this case ended up killed or wounded.

[QUOTE=Hauptmann;53022815]They do, but the usage of your handgun is incredibly restricted by French law, when a cop fires his pistol, there's always an investigation on wether it's usage was justified or not so the cops are very cautious.[/QUOTE] In the case of being beaten by a huge mod I'd be worrying about the legal details later.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;53022754]Wow. Just wow. I'd be dead, cause I would've went in there swinging at the stupid motherfuckers. I wouldn't have cared if there was 20 of em, I'd have fucking murdered one or two of em atleast before they took my big ass down.[/QUOTE] Thanks, internet tough guy, but being in the situation is a different story.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;53022754]Wow. Just wow. I'd be dead, cause I would've went in there swinging at the stupid motherfuckers. I wouldn't have cared if there was 20 of em, I'd have fucking murdered one or two of em atleast before they took my big ass down.[/QUOTE] No, you wouldn't.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;53022754]Wow. Just wow. I'd be dead, cause I would've went in there swinging at the stupid motherfuckers. I wouldn't have cared if there was 20 of em, I'd have fucking murdered one or two of em atleast before they took my big ass down.[/QUOTE] And I expect all the rest of them would be in cuffs by time back up arrives. And you would be awarded the Medal of Honor as well for your heroic efforts What a champ

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;53022754]Wow. Just wow. I'd be dead, cause I would've went in there swinging at the stupid motherfuckers. I wouldn't have cared if there was 20 of em, I'd have fucking murdered one or two of em atleast before they took my big ass down.[/QUOTE] I'm sure the officer would really appreciate you saying that on the internet

They were called out to an ongoing riot, why weren't they already suited up and padded?

[QUOTE=Karmah;53022789]Bystander effect is one hell of a drug[/QUOTE] Looked like they were all complicit from looking at the video.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;53022754]Wow. Just wow. I'd be dead, cause I would've went in there swinging at the stupid motherfuckers. I wouldn't have cared if there was 20 of em, I'd have fucking murdered one or two of em atleast before they took my big ass down.[/QUOTE] thank you for contributing nothing to the conversation and making it completely about you.

[QUOTE=Karmah;53022789]Bystander effect is one hell of a drug[/QUOTE] bystander effect is mob mentality of thinking "someone else will handle it", not "stand on the sidelines and cheer like it's some sort of gladiatorial match" mentality. [editline]2nd January 2018[/editline] it's really fucked nowadays cause so many assholes just stand and record like it's all a laugh. video of two old men hammering away at each other and no one steps in, but about 6 people are circling around laughing and video recording it. scum.

[QUOTE=GameDev;53023195]thank you for contributing nothing to the conversation and making it completely about you.[/QUOTE] by responding to him after several other people chastised him you're only serving to further make it about him. [QUOTE=loopoo;53023254]it's really fucked nowadays cause so many assholes just stand and record like it's all a laugh. video of two old men hammering away at each other and no one steps in, but about 6 people are circling around laughing and video recording it. scum.[/QUOTE] social media makes us incredibly vain to the point of mental illness. decency doesn't matter so long as we get those views or likes or retweets or whatever.

What could you even do in that situation? Assuming that you could even muster the valor to help, I feel like that situation is beyond reasoning and if you go in swinging punches or trying to shield/help the police woman you would just end up also getting injured/killed without actually helping, because you would be in a way just fueling the angry mob's mentality.

Honestly, the safest way to go about it for all parties is to just call whatever emergency number France uses. Something like this cannot be stopped by one person and it's impossible to get them to see reason because there isn't any to begin with. Just stay put until the crowd disperses and administer first aid where you can.

[QUOTE=loopoo;53023254]bystander effect is [B]mob mentality of thinking "someone else will handle it"[/B], not "stand on the sidelines and cheer like it's some sort of gladiatorial match" mentality. [editline]2nd January 2018[/editline] it's really fucked nowadays cause so many assholes just stand and record like it's all a laugh. video of two old men hammering away at each other and no one steps in, but about 6 people are circling around laughing and video recording it. scum.[/QUOTE] Not quite. In fact, bystander [I]could[/I] explain people standing around and cheering as somebody is assaulted (though, in this case, probably doesn't). Bystander effect isn't simply saying, "somebody else will handle this." It's not a rational process, but rather an automatic, subconscious "shortcut" to handling unfamiliar situations. Essentially, when you are confronted with something that you are uncertain about how to respond to, your brain quickly scans the social cues of the people around you to determine the appropriate response. If other people are panicking, you panic. If other people are laughing, you laugh. If other people aren't paying any attention, you don't pay any attention. This is a reflexive survival technique -- an evolutionary byproduct intended to help us process complex situations in an instant. For example, pausing to consider whether the predator bearing down on you rationally could be fatal. When your autopilot kicks in and the shortcut engages, you look to see what everybody else is doing. If they are all running away from that predator, then your brain jumps straight from A (Something is running towards me) to C (It is going to hurt me!) and provokes you to run as well. The deductive step B (why is that thing running towards me?) is eliminated, because you'd be fuckin' dead-zo if you stopped to consider it. In this way, and many other more practical ways, the shortcut is very helpful. Of course, in eliminating the deductive step, your shortcut can draw bad conclusions. For example, you see somebody bleeding on the ground. This is not a situation you are familiar with. Your brain, suddenly confronted with a new situation, kicks into autopilot and scans the social cues of the people around you. Nobody else looks concerned, so it jumps from A (person bleeding on ground) to C (nobody is paying any mind), cutting out B (somebody needs to help him). Subconsciously, your autopilot falsely concludes that the situation is nothing to be concerned about and sends you on your way. The irony is that this process feeds itself across many people. Another person happens upon the bleeding man, looks to you for a cue on how they should react, and draws the same incorrect conclusion. So, this process could similarly result in people cheering and clapping as somebody is violently assaulted. You see a crowd of people cheering. In the middle you see somebody apparently being beaten. Your autopilot falsely concludes that they are cheering because there's no actual harm occurring. Maybe it's a performance, maybe they're playing, maybe whatever. It's not a rational process, it's reflexive and instinctual. The "why" doesn't come into play. The good news is that this autopilot [B]can[/B] be cut through. If you were to ever find yourself in position of desperately needing help from a crowd, don't simply yell, "help!" as the autopilot from the people within the crowd will hear your cry, examine the social cues of others within the crowd, and draw the same bad conclusion -- that somebody else is already helping or will be helping, and that is why nobody else is moving. Instead, single out a [U]specific person[/U], point to them, lock eyes with them, or otherwise make it clear that you're not addressing a crowd, you're addressing [I]that person.[/I] This will snap that person out of autopilot, and cause them to properly apply that deductive step, thus more rationally examining the situation, and acting accordingly (not necessarily to your benefit, but at least with a clear understanding). Anyway, again, that's not necessarily what happened here. I just wanted to clear this point up, because I thought it was a really interesting phenomenon.

That video is pretty disturbing to have happen in suburb of Paris.

-nvm french police- is it exceedingly excruciating for anyone else to get anywhere on facepunch?

Someone did intervene actually, a man named Ali managed to save the policewoman and prevent one of the fuckers from stealing her pistol. And no, she wasn't a shit cop, she recently passed the tests to become a cop so you can keep your "but police brutality" comment to yourself. Also keep in mind that it's happenning in France, where becoming a cop is extremely hard and where they're held to very high standarts, there's even a "police of the police" so there's no place for talks about police brutality here.

-nvm france- [editline]3rd January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Hauptmann;53025279]Someone did intervene actually, a man named Ali managed to save the policewoman and prevent one of the fuckers from stealing her pistol. And no, she wasn't a shit cop, she recently passed the tests to become a cop so you can keep your "but police brutality" comment to yourself. Also keep in mind that it's happenning in France, where becoming a cop is extremely hard and where they're held to very high standarts, there's even a "police of the police" so there's no place for talks about police brutality here.[/QUOTE] my bad on that part, French cops are the reason I may move to France someday, and I'm pissed at myself for letting my US based police politics get the better of me. [editline]3rd January 2018[/editline] and it's more like Indiana based than US based.

[QUOTE=Hauptmann;53025279]Also keep in mind that it's happenning in France, where becoming a cop is extremely hard and where they're held to very high standarts, there's even a "police of the police" so there's no place for talks about police brutality here.[/QUOTE] Not saying this is the case here, but high standards and checks on police behavior doesn't mean that police brutality never happen. It still does, perhaps not at the level you see in other countries but there are still a few sadists who ruin the whole thing for everybody. Like this fuck who "accidentally" shoved a police baton several inches into a man's rectum last year, causing severe internal damage. Can't tell me this wasn't police brutality with a straight face.

God, when did French men get so violent? I know the French love a good riot every now and again, it's part of the national identity, but this is the behaviour of savages.

I think you're confusing riots with strikes man.

[QUOTE=_Axel;53025880]I think you're confusing riots with strikes man.[/QUOTE] But when did that turn into beating up women?

The fuck are you trying to say?

[QUOTE=_Axel;53025915]The fuck are you trying to say?[/QUOTE] I'm not making a point, I'm asking a question. Allow me to reiterate: When did French men become so violent that they would attack a lone female as a group?