well then it no longer becomes a Tank. What you have there is a scout car
[QUOTE=XanaToast.;45736341]well then it no longer becomes a Tank. What you have there is a scout car[/QUOTE]
Granted, most likely a scout car with a big gun, capable of penetrating current gen tanks armors.
I don't see this being super useful in cities and urban combat, however, it has great potential for field work, especially if it improves reliability, fuel efficiency, and generally reducing the logistical costs of keeping them active.
(Let's hope they don't do what they did to the abrams and shove a turbine engine in the thing, though.)
I can see it being more of a Modern Staghound rather than a straight up replacement, more for stealth than full combat engagements
but still, you could always integrate it's systems into modern tank designs
"Avoid engagement", aren't tanks supposed to actually... do stuff? Shoot things?
If it's supposed to avoid combat it's a scout car, not a tank
[QUOTE=Thunderbolt;45736461]"Avoid engagement", aren't tanks supposed to actually... do stuff? Shoot things?
If it's supposed to avoid combat it's a scout car, not a tank[/QUOTE]
engagement being 'they shoot at us, we shoot at them'
i think the idea is more
'we shoot at them, they have no idea what the fuck is happening'
or alternatively
'we sneak past most of them and shoot the guy who's important'
I think the problem with calling it a "Scout Car" is that it brings along the assumption that it's incapable of destroying the targets it's detecting.
The term Scout car would more accurately describe a vehicle that when it scouts a target, relays that information elsewhere because it doesn't have the capability of dealing with the threat. Where as this appears to be a project in which the vehicle itself will be very capable of dealing with most threats on it's own, under the assumption that it doesn't come directly under fire itself.
What this appears to be is them trying to make this the new Leopard 1 of the modern tank era, sacrificing armor reliance of the tank, because modern guns and weapons make it irrelevant, and focusing on improving it significantly in every other area to counter that and let it fill a wider variety of roles.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this project will probably be focused around countering modern Russian tanks, which frankly I don't think the U.S. currently produces many ground vehicles capable of hard-countering such tanks. Though I think our time would be better spent maintaining air superiority than upgrading land vehicles, I suppose this project could in a way aid that goal. Perhaps they'll add a SAM weapon system on it or something.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;45736573]I think the problem with calling it a "Scout Car" is that it brings along the assumption that it's incapable of destroying the targets it's detecting.
The term Scout car would more accurately describe a vehicle that when it scouts a target, relays that information elsewhere because it doesn't have the capability of dealing with the threat. Where as this appears to be a project in which the vehicle itself will be very capable of dealing with most threats on it's own, under the assumption that it doesn't come directly under fire itself.
What this appears to be is them trying to make this the new Leopard 1 of the modern tank era, sacrificing armor reliance of the tank, because modern guns and weapons make it irrelevant, and focusing on improving it significantly in every other area to counter that and let it fill a wider variety of roles.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this project will probably be focused around countering modern Russian tanks, which frankly I don't think the U.S. currently produces many ground vehicles capable of hard-countering such tanks. Though I think our time would be better spent maintaining air superiority than upgrading land vehicles, I suppose this project could in a way aid that goal. Perhaps they'll add a SAM weapon system on it or something.[/QUOTE]
Air superiority doesn't happen in an EM saturated battlefield, much less one filled with Russian AA missiles. Given the theoretic based on the battle situation, I wouldn't put it past the Russians to create an EMP just to wipe out enemy air forces. Their tanks can survive it, our planes, not so much.
This project is more of an acceptance of the new modern battlefield in which you need more mobility than anything else. Given our recent pushes towards Laser and Railgun tech which both render armor laughably irrelevant, I can see how you'd rather have this than an M1A4 that you can get stuck on a rock or simply throw a track. The design looks to be designed around countering such frailties of modern armor and more-so to be able to avoid the requirements of supply lines.
You stick an M1A1 into battle, you need three other vehicles to support it just to keep it going in a straight line. These? Likely being pushed towards being semi-self sufficient.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;45736573] Perhaps they'll add a SAM weapon system on it or something.[/QUOTE]
Makes me think of the anti air vehicles for the GLA in Command and Conquer: Generals.
new construction options available
[QUOTE=XanaToast.;45736341]well then it no longer becomes a Tank. What you have there is a scout car[/QUOTE]
obligatory
[video=youtube;aXQ2lO3ieBA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA[/video]
[QUOTE=XanaToast.;45736341]well then it no longer becomes a Tank. What you have there is a scout car[/QUOTE]
[quote]Reduce vehicle size and weight by 50 percent
Reduce onboard crew needed to operate vehicle by 50 percent
Increase vehicle speed by 100 percent
Access 95 percent of terrain
Reduce signatures that enable adversaries to detect and engage vehicles[/quote]
Doesn't turn it into a scout car.
[QUOTE=Lurklet;45736911]new construction options available[/QUOTE]
our tech tree is all backwards, aren't you supposed to get scout cars and then heavy armor?
[QUOTE=soulharvester;45736573]I think the problem with calling it a "Scout Car" is that it brings along the assumption that it's incapable of destroying the targets it's detecting.
The term Scout car would more accurately describe a vehicle that when it scouts a target, relays that information elsewhere because it doesn't have the capability of dealing with the threat. Where as this appears to be a project in which the vehicle itself will be very capable of dealing with most threats on it's own, under the assumption that it doesn't come directly under fire itself.
What this appears to be is them trying to make this the new Leopard 1 of the modern tank era, sacrificing armor reliance of the tank, because modern guns and weapons make it irrelevant, and focusing on improving it significantly in every other area to counter that and let it fill a wider variety of roles.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this project will probably be focused around countering modern Russian tanks, which frankly I don't think the U.S. currently produces many ground vehicles capable of hard-countering such tanks. Though I think our time would be better spent maintaining air superiority than upgrading land vehicles, I suppose this project could in a way aid that goal. Perhaps they'll add a SAM weapon system on it or something.[/QUOTE]
I'd call it a hunter seeker. Since that is what these vehicles will probably be. In a sense - land based drones as opposed to ground based superiority vehicles.
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