Diablo really is the red headed step child of blizzards franchises, been that way since Diablo2
[QUOTE=Del91;49011815]Diablo really is the red headed step child of blizzards franchises, been that way since Diablo2[/QUOTE]
they didn't make a diablo for over a decade and when they finally did it turned out to be a piece of shit. there was no reason for them to make another diablo during WoW's prime because they essentially would have been competing with themselves in many ways.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;49011958]they didn't make a diablo for over a decade and when they finally did it turned out to be a piece of shit. there was no reason for them to make another diablo during WoW's prime because they essentially would have been competing with themselves in many ways.[/QUOTE]
Diablo 3 wasn't a piece of shit tho. It was a ~good game when it came out, and with the updates and xpac it's really rather excellent.
I still have no fucking clue why it's tied to online though, it's holding the game back in so many ways an really my only legitimate complaint.
online only because d2 is plagued with item hacks, not really the case with d3. and thats because people can do whatever they want with the code because its offline.
[QUOTE=Naught;49012137]online only because d2 is plagued with item hacks, not really the case with d3. and thats because people can do whatever they want with the code because its offline.[/QUOTE]
ohhhh that is so not true regarding the lack of item hacks in D3
and thats also not a valid excuse
So, I take it that the people demanding something be done have never played an MMORPG ever? Or are their expectations so high that they never though there would be bots in Diablo III? Because essentially EVERY online game, especially ones with components that people find "tedious, repetitive and boring" like harvesting resources or leveling, has a bot problem.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;49012816]ohhhh that is so not true regarding the lack of item hacks in D3
and thats also not a valid excuse[/QUOTE]
uh, what item hacks? there might be some item doubling, but nothing where you can just hack in items like d2. hacked runewords come to mind. it might not be the most valid excuse, but its pretty damn common in d2.
so there still online drm?
[QUOTE=icemaz;49011988]Diablo 3 wasn't a piece of shit tho. It was a ~good game when it came out, and with the updates and xpac it's really rather excellent.
I still have no fucking clue why it's tied to online though, it's holding the game back in so many ways an really my only legitimate complaint.[/QUOTE]
I don't know how its holding it back when its really just an inconvenience at most
[QUOTE=icemaz;49011988]Diablo 3 wasn't a piece of shit tho. It was a ~good game when it came out, and with the updates and xpac it's really rather excellent.
I still have no fucking clue why it's tied to online though, it's holding the game back in so many ways an really my only legitimate complaint.[/QUOTE]
Diablo 3, is mechanically a much more watered down version of Diablo 2,
where blizzard is very worried about the possibility of confusing the player or confronting them with a meaningful choice or difficult situation.
Character building for me was a big part of Diablo 2 experience, i expected an iterated version of those mechanics ...
Not for blizzard to completely drop it, because they think people who play their games are retarded or that they are incapable of presenting it in a way where you guide people in their choices.
Diablo 3 is an [I]okay[/I] coop hack and slash, that brings nothing new to the genre,
I enjoyed it but not the same reasons i put hundreds of hours into Diablo 2.
And between POE and Torchlight 1/2, Diablo 3 was the least of a successor to Diablo 2.
[QUOTE=Naught;49012137]online only because d2 is plagued with item hacks, not really the case with d3. and thats because people can do whatever they want with the code because its offline.[/QUOTE]
Not that hard to make an "offline character" switch. I'd rather play offline/TCP-Ip than battle.net.
[QUOTE=Naught;49013136]uh, what item hacks? there might be some item doubling, but nothing where you can just hack in items like d2. hacked runewords come to mind. it might not be the most valid excuse, but its pretty damn common in d2.[/QUOTE]
might be referring to console with stuff like the Professional Russian Fast Sword and 1 billion xp multiplier gem
yea, and console isn't online only :v:
yo can you still not trade items in this game unless you find them in a party and also for only 2 hours?
silliest fuckin decision ever. why cant i trade items? also, why is there a horrible, anti-social matchmaking system? i wanted to love diablo 3 so much, and i still have the posters framed on my wall, but it had so many poor design choices. every time i join a game, it feels so alone and desolate. even when i play with other people, its all blind matchmaking. nobody talks, nothing.
you know, i followed diablo 3 for so long. every day i would watch the forums, lurking, taking in information. i played diablo 2 for 11 years, and i couldnt WAIT for diablo 3. but blizzard was so scared. so scared of third party trading and item selling, and so scared of impactful character decision making. i played diablo 2 for the loot. i love loot, and diablo 3 has loot. but having a ton of loot means almost nothing.
Just join a clan or a guild, there's no trading because that would allow for a black market that they didn't want to have to deal with, so they just out right removed it at the same time as the RMAH. It was honestly, the best way they could deal with it. The game, as it is now, is built around letting you play, and experiment in a way that no Diablo game ever let you do before, yes no trading is a bit silly in comparison to D2, but this game also has no black market, and no bullshit around that frontier.
D3, as it is now, is probably one of my favourite games of the genre of all time, and I loved D2, but there's so many things that game gets wrong due to how games aged and I/we aged with them.
D3's current loot system is literally miles above and beyond the D2 loot system. I have a million legendaries, and quite a few of them have extremely interesting affects. The builds and designs and the over all "Meta" game in this are way more fun to engage with than in D2.
[QUOTE=Cold;49013576]Diablo 3, is mechanically a much more watered down version of Diablo 2,
where blizzard is very worried about the possibility of confusing the player or confronting them with a meaningful choice or difficult situation.
Character building for me was a big part of Diablo 2 experience, i expected an iterated version of those mechanics ...
Not for blizzard to completely drop it, because they think people who play their games are retarded or that they are incapable of presenting it in a way where you guide people in their choices.
Diablo 3 is an [I]okay[/I] coop hack and slash, that brings nothing new to the genre,
I enjoyed it but not the same reasons i put hundreds of hours into Diablo 2.
And between POE and Torchlight 1/2, Diablo 3 was the least of a successor to Diablo 2.[/QUOTE]
Consider the fact that it was also put on consoles and the industry/market is leaps and bounds different than it was when D2 released. Tbh if they released D2 right now instead, i don't think it'd do well. Besides, imo Diablo has never been about meaningful choices and difficult decisions outside of combat.
[QUOTE=icemaz;49011988]Diablo 3 wasn't a piece of shit tho. It was a ~good game when it came out, and with the updates and xpac it's really rather excellent.
I still have no fucking clue why it's tied to online though, it's holding the game back in so many ways an really my only legitimate complaint.[/QUOTE]
all I hear about D3 is it being a good game made shit by being tied to an insane DRM system.
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