Would you tell a person that they are/were being controlled? - General

That's a weird title that is better explained in detail. Let me explain. Say there's a man and a woman, and the man cast a spell on the woman to force her to love him. She's unaware of the spell. (This isn't like Beauty and the Beast, which I've never watched, where she is definitely aware that she is in someone else's control.) Then, you come along, and you reverse the spell only to find that she still loves him. The idea is that because she was forced to love him, she was also forced to learn about him. Removing the spell only removes being forced to do so, but she still chooses to appreciate and love him never the less. The question is: do you tell her about the spell? Would you tell her that she was temporarily in someone else's control, and that her love was derived from that control? If so, why? I remain undecided, but I've been thinking about it for a few hours, asking people in real life. I'm interested in what you guys have to say.

I would tell her. Loving someone means knowing and accepting anything s/he has done before, unless they cross certain moral or legal lines of course (And even then, there is people willing to "love" someone who has done despicable things) If she still choses to love him, in spite of this information, it's her problem.

I'll tell her, and then leave it up to her if she wants to continue

I'll probably just ask that guy to cast a modified spell to make me love myself ;_;

Is this a hypothetical question or do you know a real wizard?

i find it is easier to just tell them immediately that you've cast a spell on them, gets all the grief out at the start which is a total weight off of the shoulders

The real question here is, why would the person who was so enamored with another for some weird reason (unaware of spell as you say) trust your words instead of what she was feeling? This can be extrapolated from real life situations, if you manipulate someone for your own benefit and others are aware of what you're doing and try to warn the person who's being manipulated, more often than not, they'll actually turn on the people who are trying to warn them that they're being someone else's puppet. Human psychology is weird like that.

Either she couldn't or would not want to leave, even if you told her. Or she'd leave but finding it more or less challenging to do so. Or alternatively, it cannot be OP. Once you the remove the "spell" the woman will find the genuine interest towards the person gone. Her love towards him disappearing just as mysteriously as it appeared before, except now knowing she had been under a spell, and then trying to process that.

Even if someone is influenced by witchcraft, them falling in love past the magic's effect would be an aspect of actual love. Or magic induced Stockholm Syndrome. Whatever comes first.

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;49907992]I'll probably just ask that guy to cast a modified spell to make me love myself ;_;[/QUOTE] Shit, I'll do that for free. I can show you this one easy trick you can do with your hand that will make you love yourself instantly. But you gotta come to one of my web shows. [editline]10th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=matt000024;49908266]Is this a hypothetical question or do you know a real wizard?[/QUOTE] Hypothetically speaking, yes. [editline]10th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Bat-shit;49908585]Either she couldn't or would not want to leave, even if you told her. Or she'd leave but finding it more or less challenging to do so. Or alternatively, it cannot be OP. Once you the remove the "spell" the woman will find the genuine interest towards the person gone. Her love towards him disappearing just as mysteriously as it appeared before, except now knowing she had been under a spell, and then trying to process that.[/QUOTE] My friend said that despite the fact that it was a dick move, it really only halted the first impression. Depending on the circumstances and how he reacts and with how much time passed, she could very easily have learned about the person and then have what it takes to maintain a real love for that person. Plus, there's a lot of people that just flat out get comfortable with others and find it harder to move on than stick around, so it could be easier and less chaotic to just move on. If there's still genuine love, it could be worthwhile to just leave it.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;49909125]Shit, I'll do that for free. I can show you this one easy trick you can do with your hand that will make you love yourself instantly. But you gotta come to one of my web shows. [editline]10th March 2016[/editline] Hypothetically speaking, yes. [editline]10th March 2016[/editline] My friend said that despite the fact that it was a dick move, it really only halted the first impression. Depending on the circumstances and how he reacts and with how much time passed, she could very easily have learned about the person and then have what it takes to maintain a real love for that person. Plus, there's a lot of people that just flat out get comfortable with others and find it harder to move on than stick around, so it could be easier and less chaotic to just move on. If there's still genuine love, it could be worthwhile to just leave it.[/QUOTE] Not only could she have easily learned about the person during their time together, of course, but I like to think that once you remove the spell, the genuine interest / LOVE will be simply gone. And the woman just won't feel attraction to him anymore... even though the woman still knows everything about the man, about his body, his feelings etc. Interesting question though.

It isn't removing the love, but the forced aspect of it. She's no longer forced to love him, but she chooses to do so because she still remembers everything good about him. So she doesn't feel a thing.

[QUOTE=coyote93;49912967]Just a quick question, are you referencing to Disney's beauty and the beast? Cus that ain't no spell, its the stockholm syndrome. Totally different thingy. Also, for you question itself, yeah, I would tell them. A relationship build upon lies is bad, and if force were used on one part of the relationship, who knows where else it might be used.[/QUOTE] I was referencing it specifically to say it wasn't that.

[QUOTE=T553412;49907891]I would tell her. Loving someone means knowing and accepting anything s/he has done before, unless they cross certain moral or legal lines of course (And even then, there is people willing to "love" someone who has done despicable things) If she still choses to love him, in spite of this information, it's her problem.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'd tell 'em if I had proof to back it up, and leave the rest to them, whether or not I'm able to counteract the effects of the mind-muddling agent. Thing is, love spells and love potions, when you really think about them, come across as a little "rapey". It's using an overpowering agent to, in a weird way, strong-arm someone's brain into thinking and feeling that they love someone, forcing an unfamiliar opinion through their skull and burning it into the registry before they have a chance to come to a natural conclusion about it. Love potions in particular make me think of those ghastly "date-rape drugs" floating around, and as for love spells? To me that comes across as mind control, which is scary as all hell. But if they came to the conclusion without the effects of the "false love agent" addling their egg salad, like they loved the person even before they got dosed/hexed/whatever, I guess that's on them. Though I imagine if a third party were involved, where a witch was playing psionic/alchemical matchmaker and decided to make two people fall in love, the moral quandaries would be a little less grey, since the act would be the fault of the external perpetrator. This assuming that the witch wasn't paid by the one person to influence the victim, of course. So yeah that's my two cents on the matter.