And to think that G2A has the money to pay for ad spaces in theaters. It's a bit ridiculous.
I keep hearing more and more shady shit about G2A every other week.
G2A is kinda dodgy in general. If I recall, they dealt with grey market keys, allegedly bought from low-income zones to be sold at higher prices. Dunno if they still do.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50557779]I keep hearing more and more shady shit about G2A every other week.[/QUOTE]
That is because they are a shady shit seller. They regularly deal in stolen keys. They got caught out bad a couple years back with Sniper Elite 3 for having sold a large number of stolen keys then.
I've never been comfortable with buying stuff from G2A and Kinguin. Despite their website screaming "shady as fuck" from design alone, both of them have gotten so fucking huge. G2A is insane with how it seems to be everywhere now.
The keys fell off the back of a truck
g2a have always been ridiculously shady, i remember hearing about some twitch streamers never getting paid for advertisement as well as people getting sold keys that had been stolen and that steam deactivated from the buyer's account, which g2a refused to refund.
never trusted any sort of key selling websites, even if it costs me an extra £15 i'd much rather just buy it from steam where I know the developers get their fair share and that i'm never gonna wake up to a big warning on my steam account saying that a game i was playing and paid for is now removed from my library.
[QUOTE=Banned?;50557844]I've never been comfortable with buying stuff from G2A and Kinguin. Despite their website screaming "shady as fuck" from website design alone, both of them are gotten so fucking huge. G2A alone is insane with how it seems to be everywhere now.[/QUOTE]
I'll buy from G2A when I want a 5+ year old game or its DLC but its still like $40+ on steam. That's happened twice.
[QUOTE=DatHarry;50557917]g2a have always been ridiculously shady, i remember hearing about some twitch streamers never getting paid for advertisement as well as people getting sold keys that had been stolen and that steam deactivated from the buyer's account, which g2a refused to refund.
never trusted any sort of key selling websites, even if it costs me an extra £15 i'd much rather just buy it from steam where I know the developers get their fair share and that i'm never gonna wake up to a big warning on my steam account saying that a game i was playing and paid for is now removed from my library.[/QUOTE]
GamesPlanet is a good website, I got Dark Souls 3 and the Division $15-20 off when they were brand new. They're an authorized reseller as well, [url=https://support.ubi.com/en-US/Faqs/000022581/Approved-Retail-Vendor-List]Ubisoft[/url] has them on their list of approved vendors. I've bought a bunch of stuff from Kinguin too, but I'm always a little more nervous about that. I like being able to just buy some random Steam keys though, I've gotten a couple good games out of it.
They are utterly fucking incompetent for not being able to relate charge-backs to the keys bought with them (including on their own store), and then expected G2A to compensate them for it.
Every games company has these capabilities both internally and on platforms like steam, and reselling partners, G2A is willing to blacklist fraud keys and cooperate with the company, but they can't provide [B]any [/B]data.
G2A has its issues, but what a fucking joke of an article this is.
[QUOTE=Cold;50558138]They are utterly fucking incompetent for not being able to relate charge-backs to the keys bought with them (including on their own store), and then expected G2A to compensate them for it.
Every games company has these capabilities both internally and on platforms like steam, and reselling partners, G2A is willing to blacklist fraud keys and cooperate with the company, but they can't provide [B]any [/B]data.
G2A has its issues, but what a fucking joke of an article this is.[/QUOTE]
did you not read the article
[quote]“There’s no real way to know which keys leaked or not, and deactivating full batches of game keys would make a ton of fans angry, be it keys bought from official sellers or not.” [/quote]
tell me how a developer would know which keys are stolen
Honestly at that point I'd just disable all the keys in infected batches, with people being able to get a new key by showing proof of purchase.
I tried G2A for the first time recently, never again...
Their G2A Shield is a joke. They force you to buy it on your first purchase, and then you have to wait a month before you can cancel it. Me being me forgot, and then they charged me for another month.
So I go to cancel it, and I'm presented with 6 or 7 pages of "Are you sure you want to cancel?" to which I then had to wait 20 minutes after that to get a cancellation.
Never going to use it again.
[QUOTE=Alex141;50560060]I tried G2A for the first time recently, never again...
Their G2A Shield is a joke. They force you to buy it on your first purchase, and then you have to wait a month before you can cancel it. Me being me forgot, and then they charged me for another month.
So I go to cancel it, and I'm presented with 6 or 7 pages of "Are you sure you want to cancel?" to which I then had to wait 20 minutes after that to get a cancellation.
Never going to use it again.[/QUOTE]
this kind of worried me, so i went to go check myself if I bought it, but it doesn't say anywhere that I bought it. it even says that G2A shield is off for me.
where'd you find that out?
While cd-key sites are probably shady, i've never had a problem with G2A keys (bought 7 items).
this isn't to judge any specific key site at all, but I always kinda laugh when people get ripped off of shady sites and then blame anyone but themselves
I mean if you're going to use a key site at least use ones with good rep. But then they use the ones known for fucking people over, and I find it very funny. Reasonable when you buy from a site that you can trust because it has a ton of trust, because its cheaper and doesn't matter either way... and then there is the people who get scammed.
it's like buying car insurance from a guy who looks like a lower budget Saul Goodman type. Yeah he could be legit but if you expect not to get possibly fucked over that's kind of on you.
Also never had any issues with either G2A or Kinguin.
And I have bought a lot of things from both of them.
(Must be close to 40 or so things bought between them)
And the one time I did have an issue with a key I got from G2A I got in contact with the seller, and he replied back within 10 minutes with the correct key (he had made a typo when entering the key info).
And he was full of apologies about his mistake.
While no doubt there are some bad sellers on these sites, I guess we only ever hear about the bad ones, since no-one ever makes a news story about the good sellers and the money they saved getting the game\dlc\program from these places.
Heck I got Doom 2016 from Kinguin for £20, Yet on Steam it is £40.
So yeah. I like them. and will keep on using them since they save me a lot of money.
[QUOTE=ironman17;50557781]G2A is kinda dodgy in general. If I recall, they dealt with grey market keys, allegedly bought from low-income zones to be sold at higher prices. Dunno if they still do.[/QUOTE]
Of course they do, that's how they can sell games for way cheaper than any legit store. That or leaked keys as is the case here, or other kinds of fraud.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50559047]did you not read the article
tell me how a developer would know which keys are stolen[/QUOTE]
That's the whole point? That they should know, but they don't?
Other developer and platforms track this perfectly, big or small.
You sell a key, you can draw the relation between the key you just sold, the the transactionid to go with it. when it gets charged back you have the transaction id, and you can disable the key.
If you're dealing with resellers you either shouldn't deal with resellers that don't provide this info, or let them hold the charge-back responsibility, this isn't uncommon.
Just because they don't know, doesn't mean they can't know, especially since they used to run their own store.
Like every company has its duty to prevent fraud, but its starts with you at least doing basic tracking of fraud before you go up to the biggest unauthorized resellers and demand compensation.
[QUOTE=Alex141;50560060]I tried G2A for the first time recently, never again...
Their G2A Shield is a joke. They force you to buy it on your first purchase, and then you have to wait a month before you can cancel it. Me being me forgot, and then they charged me for another month.
So I go to cancel it, and I'm presented with 6 or 7 pages of "Are you sure you want to cancel?" to which I then had to wait 20 minutes after that to get a cancellation.
Never going to use it again.[/QUOTE]
Really? I bought a few games from them, and I've always had the option to not use G2A Shield. So far all of my purchases there went through just fine.
If I ever feel like buying a game, I usually decide by 1. Scouring the internet for feedback from people who've bought from the site. 2. Check publishers' list of approved digital distributeurs.
Too bad most publishers dont have said list except Ubisoft. :(
[URL="https://support.ubi.com/en-GB/Faqs/000023753/List-of-authorised-Retailers"]https://support.ubi.com/en-GB/Faqs/000023753/List-of-authorised-Retailers[/URL]
I kind of wish all publishers had these kinds of lists, so it would be easier to find out who's actually legitimate.
My only experience with G2A is that I won a 10 euro gift code from them. I never used it and honestly I've dodged the site entirely because of their monthly billing of G2A Shield and the general feedback from the site.
[QUOTE=Sanjuaro;50560528]Really? I bought a few games from them, and I've always had the option to not use G2A Shield. So far all of my purchases there went through just fine.[/QUOTE]
I decided to get it mainly because they keep advertising it in your face, plus I was doing a pre-order. So I got suckered into getting it and yea, not ideal. Overall I just didn't like the site, so I won't be buying from it again.
[QUOTE=Octopod;50560112]this kind of worried me, so i went to go check myself if I bought it, but it doesn't say anywhere that I bought it. it even says that G2A shield is off for me.
where'd you find that out?[/QUOTE]
You have to go through some account settings that aren't easy to find, I can't even remember where you go, I think its under Shield settings or something. Even more reason to be wary, since they seem to hide it and make it more than difficult to cancel.
[QUOTE=ironman17;50557781]G2A is kinda dodgy in general. If I recall, they dealt with grey market keys, allegedly bought from low-income zones to be sold at higher prices. Dunno if they still do.[/QUOTE]
Isn't dicking about with exchange rates and making a profit off it their entire business model? Eitherway I'll concede that I use G2A but never have and never will buy an indie game from there, just I'm not going to lose any sleep over slightly diminishing EA, Ubisoft or Activision's revenue.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;50560931]Isn't dicking about with exchange rates and making a profit off it their entire business model? [/QUOTE]
Shield is
[QUOTE=Octopod;50560112]this kind of worried me, so i went to go check myself if I bought it, but it doesn't say anywhere that I bought it. it even says that G2A shield is off for me.
where'd you find that out?[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://imgur.com/a/HcSG4"]http://imgur.com/a/HcSG4[/URL]
[QUOTE=Rossy167;50560931]Isn't dicking about with exchange rates and making a profit off it their entire business model? .[/QUOTE]
IIRC, they act as a storefront for independent sellers, so they can claim ignorance to all the fraud behind many of the keys resold. So you could equate this to something like ebay, except you get all the dicey business with virtual goods and benefits of hiding behind borders without a physical address to lead back to you.
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;50561546][URL="http://imgur.com/a/HcSG4"]http://imgur.com/a/HcSG4[/URL][/QUOTE]
[T]http://i.imgur.com/URUWkKA.png[/T]
guess i never got the chance to accidentally buy it
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;50561546][URL="http://imgur.com/a/HcSG4"]http://imgur.com/a/HcSG4[/URL][/QUOTE]
oh my fucking christ this is horrible
[QUOTE=Cold;50558138]They are utterly fucking incompetent for not being able to relate charge-backs to the keys bought with them (including on their own store), and then expected G2A to compensate them for it.
Every games company has these capabilities both internally and on platforms like steam, and reselling partners, G2A is willing to blacklist fraud keys and cooperate with the company, but they can't provide [B]any [/B]data.
G2A has its issues, but what a fucking joke of an article this is.[/QUOTE]
You still have chargeback costs to deal with. And whenever this happens and they do take back the keys, consumers start a ton of complaints at the developers, not G2A, happened before with Ubisoft.
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/4p0nzd/g2a_sold_450k_worth_of_our_game_keys/[/url]
2 Companies, Trion Worlds and ShinyLoot complain in this thread about G2A fraud causing them to go under and have major issues. This isn't anything new.
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