[quote]It's literally impossible to illegally download something on BitTorrent.[/quote]
I wanted to mock this phrase, but it's actually right. It's like blaming piracy on HTTP.
Yeah. It's like blaming the DVD format for piracy and claiming that it has no legal uses.
Which I'm pretty sure the RIAA and friends have done.
[sp]MAFIAA sounds silly and petty like Micro$oft i ain't doin that shit[/sp]
[QUOTE]BitTorrent's post ended with a plea to fans to watch the show legally.[/QUOTE]
Yeah let me just watch it on one of the many services available to me. Oh wait.
[QUOTE=Reds;41193486]Yeah. It's like blaming the DVD format for piracy and claiming that it has no legal uses.
Which I'm pretty sure the RIAA and friends have done.
[sp]MAFIAA sounds silly and petty like Micro$oft i ain't doin that shit[/sp][/QUOTE]
They were heavily against Cassette tapes because it was "destroying the music industry"
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[QUOTE=AngryChairR;41193503]Yeah let me just watch it on one of the many services available to me. Oh wait.[/QUOTE]
I don't know anyone here who watches Game of Thrones legally, they don't want to wait months for it to come to Australia
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I don't know anyone here who watches Game of Thrones legally, they don't want to wait months for it to come to Australia[/QUOTE]
Is it even on TV in Australia, I haven't watched it in so long.
Make good services then people will stop, we've been over this before.
[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;41193702]Make good services then people will stop, we've been over this before.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;41193702]Make good services then people will stop, we've been over this before.[/QUOTE]
The problem with watching GoT is that it's ONLY available through HBO. Put it on Netflix or something, I'll watch it. Yeah, I can get HBO here and yeah, it's got Dutch subtitles (which is handy with some of the dialogue in GoT) but it's 15 euros a month (and I'll be fucked if I shell out that kind of money for one show) and it's not a simultaneous release. Okay, it airs the next day at 20.30 but I can just go and download the episode the very next morning after it airs in America. Subtitles aren't a problem since my English proficiency is at the point where I don't need them. So why bother?
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[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;41193702]Make good services then people will stop, we've been over this before.[/QUOTE]
There's always gonna be those people who simply don't want to pay for shit, regardless of how good it is.
[QUOTE=geel9;41193751][img]http://puu.sh/3oFmR.png[/img][/QUOTE]
What are you trying to say?, because those numbers in relation are tiny.
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[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;41193762]
There's always gonna be those people who simply don't want to pay for shit, regardless of how good it is.[/QUOTE]
This is sadly true, but having a good service will decrease the rates.
Also, not every one of those downloaders is just downloading because it's free. Retarded DRM and copy protection means piracy is sometimes a necessity if you want to, say, watch your movies and shows on a device it wasn't meant for. Ripping and encoding is complicated depending on format but queueing up a torrent and plopping the downloaded file on a micro SD is easy.
[QUOTE=Kuro.;41193859]Also, not every one of those downloaders is just downloading because it's free. Retarded DRM and copy protection means piracy is sometimes a necessity if you want to, say, watch your movies and shows on a device it wasn't meant for. Ripping and encoding is complicated depending on format but queueing up a torrent and plopping the downloaded file on a micro SD is easy.[/QUOTE]
And if you have a decent enough internet connection, faster :v:
A bad service doesn't automatically entitle you to piracy
as much as we all like it, piracy has no justification and it's just a way to be cheap fucks and not pay for something
if you want something that is bad, then why are you bothering pirating it
[QUOTE=gnisasas;41194222]
as much as we all like it, piracy has no justification and it's just a way to be cheap fucks and not pay for something
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I legally can't buy a game because my government doesn't agree with something in it, I can't import it and every service blocks me from buying it. Is it still justified?
[QUOTE=Animosus;41193614]Is it even on TV in Australia, I haven't watched it in so long.[/QUOTE]
It's on showcase which is only available on Foxtel so
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SBS should of snatched the rights since they have a few HBO shows going on their network
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;41194578]It's on showcase which is only available on Foxtel so
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SBS should of snatched the rights since they have a few HBO shows going on their network[/QUOTE]
I think broadcasting rights for GoT would be out of their Budget :v:
[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;41194540]Pirating is simple. Pop on over to a file sharing site and ding, you have every episode of GoT.
Or you could pay $15 a month for HBO and watch every episode, but lose it when you stop paying the money.
People pirate because they do not feel like they could justify buying the product at the price, cant buy it due to lack of funds, or find it simpler just to pirate it.[/QUOTE]
Or you know, if you want every episode forever, just wait until they release each season in bluray or whatever and enjoy forever.
If you don't feel the product is not worth the price, then don't buy it, or wait for the price to go down. It really isn't going to go away. If you don't have funds, you wait until you have those funds, and of course pirating stuff is always simpler, that's a no brainer.
Being a cheapass doesn't justify pirating.
[QUOTE=kaze4159;41194559]I legally can't buy a game because my government doesn't agree with something in it, I can't import it and every service blocks me from buying it. Is it still justified?[/QUOTE]
That would be justified, while not legal. There's the difference.
Of course nothing justified pirating
But you'll pirate something when its way more inconvienent and way more expensive to go the legal route (and I'm not just talking about paying money at all, something I wouldn't mind doing if GoT was for example on a "steam-for-movies" like service) but a show like GoT not only requires you to have a cable connection in the first place (something I don't have for example), but it requires you to have an expensive add-on to that cable connection in order to view one show. If I don't have those things and can't really afford to tack on an expensive channel to cable I don't have, as far as HBO is concerned I'm offfically outisde of their target market and their target audience.
If they want people like me in their target audience giving them money they'll need to change how their service works to not require so many limiting factors (including loads of cash) otherwise it'll be easier (and a better service) to just pirate their content on a show-by-show basis. And we aren't even getting into the fact that they fail to offer good quality service for a thing that people want in countries outside the US (thanks to week-to-month long delays in showings), making pirating the much better service.
Even then, I've seen the show with my BF and I enjoyed it enough to buy my dad the season one and two DVD box sets for fathers day. So in the end, despite me being a viewer of GoT not through my own purchased HBO channel, HBO still got my money in the end in a format I felt was justified and good for the service.
[QUOTE=KorJax;41196367]Of course nothing justified pirating
But you'll pirate something when its way more inconvienent and way more expensive to go the legal route (and I'm not just talking about paying money at all, something I wouldn't mind doing if GoT was for example on a "steam-for-movies" like service) but a show like GoT not only requires you to have a cable connection in the first place (something I don't have for example), but it requires you to have an expensive add-on to that cable connection in order to view one show. If I don't have those things and can't really afford to tack on an expensive channel to cable I don't have, as far as HBO is concerned I'm offfically outisde of their target market and their target audience.
If they want people like me in their target audience giving them money they'll need to change how their service works to not require so many limiting factors (including loads of cash) otherwise it'll be easier (and a better service) to just pirate their content on a show-by-show basis. And we aren't even getting into the fact that they fail to offer good quality service for a thing that people want in countries outside the US (thanks to week-to-month long delays in showings), making pirating the much better service.
Even then, I've seen the show with my BF and I enjoyed it enough to buy my dad the season one and two DVD box sets for fathers day. So in the end, despite me being a viewer of GoT not through my own purchased HBO channel, HBO still got my money in the end in a format I felt was justified and good for the service.[/QUOTE]
Now that's reasonable and why some people pirate stuff, just like Kaze said above. While it still doesn't fully justify pirating, it makes much more sense and holds more ground than some other arguments which basically entitle themselves for pirating.
It's that entitlement some pirates hold that annoys me, pirating is never fully justified, and while everyone does it anyways, some just pretend it's in their right and it's entirely justified, therefore they will keep pirating basically giving themselves liberties.
i wish HBO and all the other guys in Hollywood would stop bashing Netflix, its a very good place to release your shit while its simultaniously airing, cas then people can go back and watch older episodes, switch to newer ones, and not have to wait till it's regionally broadcasted. Too bad Netflix is going the way of the napster and getting crushed by everyone making their own services (WARNERBROTHERS!)
I don't get it, companies complain about piracy affecting their wages, and all this bullshit.
Yet, millions of people in Canada alone pay this;
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FOR BASIC CABLE TV.
BASIC.
CABLE.
So tell me, why should I not just cancel that out, save 70$ on the bill, and just pay for a season on dvd for 30-40$?
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