• Fog Machines and Computers
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I am supposed to be supplying a few computers for a party/thing. The towers will probably be put on the floor or not very high above it, and we are planning on using the "heavy" fog (stays around the floor, about a few inches above ankle height. So im asking how much will the computers be affected by it and which type of fog machine is most computer friendly (ie Dry Ice, Glycol/water, mineral oil etc)? oh and I cant close the machines up since theyre gonna be used
[QUOTE=Eltro102;33628884]I am supposed to be supplying a few computers for a party/thing. The towers will probably be put on the floor or not very high above it, and we are planning on using the "heavy" fog (stays around the floor, about a few inches above ankle height. So im asking how much will the computers be affected by it and which type of fog machine is most computer friendly (ie Dry Ice, Glycol/water, mineral oil etc)?[/QUOTE] Eh it should be fine but what you could do is kinda semi waterproof it.
mineral oil should be just fine, its non conductive.
[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;33628924]mineral oil should be just fine, its non conductive.[/QUOTE] what about the dry ice one since it is only CO2 (as we need low lying heavy fog, mineral oil doesnt really make that)
I'm sure C02 will do absolutely nothing to it. I would however be worried about condensation, though.
Heavy fog tends to be cooled right? Yea, condensation could be an issue.
Is liquid cooling an option? Might be too expensive... But if you could do that, then you wouldn't have to worry about the fan's and then for mobo and other parts, I found a good discussion about waterproofing parts: [url]http://www.overclock.net/t/62026/how-do-i-waterproof-my-board[/url]
[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;33628924]mineral oil should be just fine, its non conductive.[/QUOTE] Any fog machine is going to pose problems, but mineral oil based machines would cause the most problems. The mineral oil picks up contaminants as it moves through the air and settles and sticks to most surfaces, creating a film of oil. The oil itself isn't conductive, but the contaminants that get stuck in it may potentially be conductive and cause shorts that won't go away since they're stuck to the computer parts. The fog machine also likely oxidizes and damages the mineral oil, which can be more of a problem. I would recommend using dry ice and elevate the computers as high as possible, or put them in a largish box with an open top so that they don't suck the condensation in from the fog.
Putting them on the floor isn't going to be an option for you if you value your computers.
My 1500 w fogger did no harm to my PC when I was LANing in the garage and we filled the place with smoke. It gets a bit sticky, but thats it. [editline]9th December 2011[/editline] Aaand get dry ice. Stays for very, very long, and stays at the floor, where a normal fogger will just go batshit and fog the whole room.
Speaking from experience; I have an on-the-road roadcased rack computer (In the bottom of the rack), Its numerous encounters with many fog machines (Of which I have no control over the liquid used - I do live sound, Not lighting and related) has not harmed it in any way and I can't see any evidence of residue as such, just the usual dust buildup. I generally don't have it right next to the source of the fog though. I'm not the only one who uses a PC as part of their sound set up either, let's not forget the other digital systems used in live sound scenarios that come into contact with this stuff: Digital multicore systems usually packing a Ethernet switch in the same rack, DMX Dimmer packs, Digital power amplifiers, Digital Monitor mixers, Digital Effects units... The list goes on, yes they are built more for that environment. Even so, I'd raise them off the ground if possible to get them out of dense part of the fog or maybe drape something over them as a sort of filter (Something a bit breathable) if you are that concerned. One night of contact probably isn't going to do much, maybe if it was night after night without the maintenance I do. Like I say, this is just the experience I've had with taking a computer to these situations. interpret them as you wish.
I recommend the dry ice, it wont condense but rather vaporise, becoming just like all of the other CO2 in the atmosphere.
make sure you arent in a sealed room with the co2 or you'll probably end up killing yourself
[QUOTE=Shadaez;33642222]make sure you arent in a sealed room with the co2 or you'll probably end up killing yourself[/QUOTE] Is Deeps invited?
[QUOTE=Brt5470;33642391]Is Deeps invited?[/QUOTE] His ipod will protect him, though.
[QUOTE=Chubbs;33642956]His ipod will protect him, though.[/QUOTE] There is an app for that!
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;33642191]I recommend the dry ice, it wont condense but rather vaporise, becoming just like all of the other CO2 in the atmosphere.[/QUOTE] The process of a solid turning to a gas and bypassing the liquid stage is called sublimation. Though in the process of sublimating, it will pull moisture out of the air and make the moisture condense due to the temperature drop.
It would condense in and around the dry ice machine though, very little water would exit the machine, most would be collected in some sort of tray in the machine.
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