Recently my friend got two desktop quad cores, and gave me his old AMD Athlon X2 4000+ and an Intel Pentium Dual Core 805.
The AMD bios says it's running at 2.2 Ghz, and the Intel says 2.66.
I'm looking for a system that would work well for a secondary media/gaming PC. The Intel seems to get a little hot at times. :\
One is an AMD AM2 Socket, the other is an Intel LGA 755.
But the Intel board keeps trying to overclock itself. Even if I told it not to.( Because I hate overclocking my processors! )
But I need one that will deliver power, but one that will not over heat.
The parts that are going to be mounted, are a 350 watt EN max power supply, ATI Saphire 1600 pro( Plan to upgrade soon ), 2 Gbs of DDR2 dual channel memory, 1 hard drive, and 1 CD drive.
The AMD is an Asus M2A-VM.
The Intel is an Asus Pl5D2-VM.
[b] I am looking for performance, not system/clock speed! [/b]
I've searched Google, and all the information I got was completely useless.
Well with the AMD board, its max supported RAM is 8GB, not really sure if you want 8GB of RAM, or is the 4GB will be okay on the intel board, that really depends how much your willing to shell out when and if you upgrade. But on the other hand, the AMB board only supports 6 Channels of sound while the Intel supports 8, Not really sure if your a sound freak or not.
AMD = The turtle. Not so fast, but dependable and runs cool.
Intel = The hare. Fast, but can get wily at times (Although it's nothing someone with at least half a brain can't handle). Usually runs considerably hotter than AMD.
[QUOTE=Ghostballs;24475803]Well with the AMD board, its max supported RAM is 8GB, not really sure if you want 8GB of RAM, or is the 4GB will be okay on the intel board, that really depends how much your willing to shell out when and if you upgrade. But on the other hand, the AMB board only supports 6 Channels of sound while the Intel supports 8, Not really sure if your a sound freak or not.[/QUOTE]
Not really a sound freak, I mostly just run the sound through my TV.
The system I only plan to have 4 strips of DDR2 512. The Intel is currently running, but the system always being overclocked worries me.
But according to him he says the AMD runs faster when it comes to gaming, gives it some kind of speed spike. But he doesn't really know what he's talking quarters of a time.
[editline]11:43PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Supacasey;24476095]AMD = The turtle. Not so fast, but dependable and runs cool.
Intel = The hare. Fast, but can get wily at times (Although it's nothing someone with at least half a brain can't handle). Usually runs considerably hotter than AMD.[/QUOTE]
But the Intel gets so hot that it freezes. And like I said, even when I tell it not to overclock it, it does anyways.
But from other people at some stores, they say that they both run just as fast. But one gets hotter then the other.
Well If you know what your doing, or can read, you can disable alot of those speed intel features, I dont have any trouble with my computer getting hot and im an intel user.
[QUOTE=Ghostballs;24476381]Well If you know what your doing, or can read, you can disable alot of those speed intel features, I dont have any trouble with my computer getting hot and im an intel user.[/QUOTE]
The clock is set to 2.2 ghz, and when it restarts it says "Overclocking Failed!"
Which I didn't even overclock it, I just lowered the speed.
So hot that it freezes? Seriously? How hot does it get?
[QUOTE=Supacasey;24477185]So hot that it freezes? Seriously? How hot does it get?[/QUOTE]
Runs fine for about 2 hours, then freezes and gets to
about 80 degrees C.
[QUOTE=wilderbeast;24477376]About 80 degrees C.[/QUOTE]
Uh... Wow. Stock heatsink I take it? While stressing, I hope?
[QUOTE=Supacasey;24477490]Uh... Wow. Stock heatsink I take it? While stressing, I hope?[/QUOTE]
Yeas, using TVU program... But I didn't expect to have a board that keeps clocking it up.. I rather think the board is overclocking it, or there is just not enough air movement.
Cause I have it in an old seanix pentium 2 case( Can't really afford anything, so I picked this up at some recycling place ).
When I take the side panel off, it cools down fast. But when It's on, it gets warm really quick, even not under load.
Can you download and open CPU-Z while you stress to see if the board is dynamically OCing?
[QUOTE=Supacasey;24478018]Can you download and open CPU-Z while you stress to see if the board is dynamically OCing?[/QUOTE]
This may sound stupid, but how do I do that?
[QUOTE=Ghostballs;24478090][URL="http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html"]http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
Well, I got the data.
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CPU-Z TXT Report
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Binaries
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CPU-Z version 1.55
Processors
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Number of processors 1
Number of threads 2
APICs
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Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0 0
-- Core 1
-- Thread 0 1
Processors Information
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Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 2 (max 2)
Number of threads 2 (max 2)
Name Intel Pentium D 805
Codename SmithField
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.66GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 775 LGA (0x4)
CPUID F.4.7
Extended CPUID F.4
Core Stepping B0
Technology 90 nm
Core Speed 2667.0 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 20.0 x 133.4 MHz
Rated Bus speed 533.4 MHz
Stock frequency 2666 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache 2 x 16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Trace cache 2 x 12 Kuops, 8-way set associative
L2 cache 2 x 1024 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control no
Thread dumps
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CPU Thread 0
APIC ID 0
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0
Type 01001008h
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 80000008h
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 16 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 1 MB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, T, 12 KB, 1 thread(s)
CPUID
0x00000000 0x00000005 0x756E6547 0x6C65746E 0x49656E69
0x00000001 0x00000F47 0x00020800 0x0000651D 0xBFEBFBFF
0x00000002 0x605B5101 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x007C7040
0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x04000121 0x01C0003F 0x0000001F 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x04000143 0x01C0103F 0x000003FF 0x00000000
0x00000005 0x00000040 0x00000040 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000000 0x80000008 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000001 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000001 0x20000800
0x80000002 0x20202020 0x20202020 0x20202020 0x746E4920
0x80000003 0x52286C65 0x65502029 0x7569746E 0x2952286D
0x80000004 0x20204420 0x20555043 0x36362E32 0x007A4847
0x80000005 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000006 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x04006040 0x00000000
0x80000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000008 0x00003024 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0x0000001B 0x00000000 0xFEE00900
MSR 0x00000017 0x00120000 0x00000000
MSR 0x0000002C 0x00000000 0x14110614
MSR 0x000001A0 0x00000004 0x20A40489
CPU Thread 1
APIC ID 1
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 1, Thread ID 0
Type 01001008h
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 80000008h
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 16 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 1 MB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, T, 12 KB, 1 thread(s)
CPUID
0x00000000 0x00000005 0x756E6547 0x6C65746E 0x49656E69
0x00000001 0x00000F47 0x01020800 0x0000651D 0xBFEBFBFF
0x00000002 0x605B5101 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x007C7040
0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x04000121 0x01C0003F 0x0000001F 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x04000143 0x01C0103F 0x000003FF 0x00000000
0x00000005 0x00000040 0x00000040 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000000 0x80000008 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000001 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000001 0x20000800
0x80000002 0x20202020 0x20202020 0x20202020 0x746E4920
0x80000003 0x52286C65 0x65502029 0x7569746E 0x2952286D
0x80000004 0x20204420 0x20555043 0x36362E32 0x007A4847
0x80000005 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000006 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x04006040 0x00000000
0x80000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000008 0x00003024 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0x0000001B 0x00000000 0xFEE00800
MSR 0x00000017 0x00120000 0x00000000
MSR 0x0000002C 0x00000000 0x14110614
MSR 0x000001A0 0x00000004 0x20A40489
Chipset
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Northbridge Intel i945P/PL/G/GZ rev. A2
Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7/R) rev. A1
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2048 MBytes
Channels Dual
Memory Frequency 200.0 MHz (2:3)
CAS# latency (CL) 4.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 4
Cycle Time (tRAS) 12
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 16
MCHBAR I/O Base address 0x0FED14000
MCHBAR I/O Size 4096
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The board keeps saying it's being overclocked on startup, but in windows it says it's normal.
Open CPU-Z and just watch it while you're stressing the computer and see if any statistics fluctuate.
[QUOTE=Supacasey;24478701]Open CPU-Z and just watch it while you're stressing the computer and see if any statistics fluctuate.[/QUOTE]
Alright.
[editline]02:18AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=wilderbeast;24479024]Alright.[/QUOTE]
It seems to be stable now.
Bahaha, fucker knew I was coming for him :v:
[QUOTE=Supacasey;24480364]Bahaha, fucker knew I was coming for him :v:[/QUOTE]
Uh... What? I found out it was a lack of air movement in the chassis, I'll see if I can pick one up for 10 bucks on Kijiji.
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