• Am I ready for a Linux distribution? Web Design Concerns!
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Hello Gurus! Lately, I have been realizing more and more that I don't really game that much anymore. I am maturing more as a person (no video games aren't mature, my taste is just changing), and I really just don't play games anymore. I might launch TF2 occasionally or play a little bit of World of Warcraft, but other than that, I really don't do too much gaming. [b]What I do is[/b] Browse the internet Listen to music Watch videos Web Design If it weren't for that last fact, I wouldn't think twice about hoping on the Linux train and enjoying the ride... but I just can't help but think Linux is a bad idea for web design. Why is this you might ask? Pretty much the only problem with Linux, software compatibility. [b]Programs I will not compromise for[/b] Photoshop Yeah, that is the only one on the list, but I just can't compromise on that, I need it. I will not use gimp, for I am only comfortable with photoshop and reteaching myself just isn't what I really want to do right now. It is almost summer break. I'd rather spend my summer break getting better at photoshop than just learning how to use gimp. [b]How can I go about running photoshop?[/b] One way I do not want to use is Wine. Wine just feels too hacky to me and seems to be a big hassle for something that just isn't worth it in the end. I read that there is an alternative. Virtual Box. I don't know much about it other than that it works a lot like Parallels for Mac. How does it handle memory intensive programs like photoshop? [b]The final question[/b] The final problem for me, why should I be using Linux over Windows? On paper, Linux sounds right for me, but I just can't help but wonder why I should use it over Windows. [u]I don't really want to dual boot[/u]. That might sound silly, but when I end up dual booting, I just end up getting lazy and sticking with Windows. [b]Distros?[/b] Is there a particular distro that sounds right for me? I've been looking at Fedora and OpenSUSE mostly. Both platforms seem to be really on top of security and software support. Any comments on these distributions or ideas? Thanks in advanced!
be a man, arch first with openbox but if you're photoshopping mainly linux is going to give you a very hard time,
Try linux out in Virtualbox. [url]http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads[/url] No need to dualboot or format with that.
virtubox im a virtubox
[QUOTE=Van-man;22169359]Try linux out in Virtualbox. [url]http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads[/url] No need to dualboot or format with that.[/QUOTE] I would rather use Linux as my main OS. Otherwise it really just defeats the purpose (for me) and I lose most of the pros of Linux.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;22169543]I would rather use Linux as my main OS. Otherwise it really just defeats the purpose (for me) and I lose most of the pros of Linux.[/QUOTE] The idea is to use it as a test. Just see how well you like it.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;22169283][b]Programs I will not compromise for[/b] Photoshop Yeah, that is the only one on the list, but I just can't compromise on that, I need it. I will not use gimp, for I am only comfortable with photoshop and reteaching myself just isn't what I really want to do right now. It is almost summer break. I'd rather spend my summer break getting better at photoshop than just learning how to use gimp. [b]How can I go about running photoshop?[/b] One way I do not want to use is Wine. Wine just feels too hacky to me and seems to be a big hassle for something that just isn't worth it in the end. I read that there is an alternative. Virtual Box. I don't know much about it other than that it works a lot like Parallels for Mac. How does it handle memory intensive programs like photoshop? [/QUOTE] You've got it backwards. Wine is the nice way, VirtualBox is the hacky way. Also, Wine is easy to use and works charms in most cases. VirtualBox isn't an alternative, it's a virtual machine. You'll have to install Windows in that and run Photoshop in the copy of Windows. This is the true big hassle and Photoshop will run terribly within it unless you've got a machine where you can allocate most of your resources to a virtual machine. Also, if you're not working for a company, just try gimp. It's really quite similar to photoshop and you'll find that in a matter of hours you'll be able to do what you can in photoshop and more.
Use WINE, seriously. It works great. As for distro, you don't sound like that huge of a computer person so you probably just want something that works. Ubuntu 10.04 and Mint 9 are very reliable and work great. However, if you are a real man try some Gentoo or Arch. They give you so much more control of how your system operates, but require more work to set up and you will need to learn how to use them.
redonkulous... you have the greatest name ever.
[QUOTE=redonkulous;22171756]Use WINE, seriously. It works great. As for distro, you don't sound like that huge of a computer person so you probably just want something that works. Ubuntu 10.04 and Mint 9 are very reliable and work great. However, if you are a real man try some Gentoo or Arch. They give you so much more control of how your system operates, but require more work to set up and you will need to learn how to use them.[/QUOTE] Oh I'm a computer person. I've built them, fixed them, just haven't don't so in quite a while. I think I would be able to hang though. Anything wrong with openSUSE or Fedora? Any particular comments on those? [editline]09:03PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;22169914]The idea is to use it as a test. Just see how well you like it.[/QUOTE] Also, I have the ability to use a live USB. That is how I am also going to go about installing the OS, since my dvd drive doesn't burn anymore.
Virtualbox is your only option if you want to run a version of photoshop newer than CS2, but CS2 and earlier works great in wine.
CS4 worked fine in pre-1.1.18
[QUOTE=Funcoot;22172884]Oh I'm a computer person. I've built them, fixed them, just haven't don't so in quite a while. I think I would be able to hang though. Anything wrong with openSUSE or Fedora? Any particular comments on those?[/QUOTE] Fedora is okay, it's not quite as user friendly as almost all easy to find documentation for Linux distributions seems to be based on ubuntu, but you can use it like any other distro. Though I did have trouble with a Fedora installer not setting GRUB up right, probably just bad luck on my end though.
As long as you need Photoshop, you aren't ready.
Fedora got all HNNG when I tried installing the propriatary Nvidia drivers back when FC 7 was all the rage. The open source drivers worked fine though.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;22186815]Fedora got all HNNG when I tried installing the propriatary Nvidia drivers back when FC 7 was all the rage. The open source drivers worked fine though.[/QUOTE] These days you can use the rpmfusion repository to get that driver. Back then it would have been livna. I don't know if you used the repo or not; you didn't mention anything about it.
It was like 2007, I don't remember if I did or not. I just remember that it didn't work.
So anyword on photoshop?? which version works best with WINE? I too want to know this.. I'd use Linux as my main OS if photoshop works
CS2 works fine in Wine
Dual-boot. I don't see any reason not to. If you don't use Windows, you're missing out on a lot of software. If you don't use Linux, you're also missing out on a lot of software (and a lot of misc awesomeness). Solution: Use both. I boot into Windows for design & gaming because, all excuses aside, Linux is simply not as good for the two right now. It's not a Windows replacement, and if you let the die-hards convince you that it is, then soon you'll realize it on your own. If you're finding that you rarely use Linux with a dual-boot configuration, maybe that's a sign that Windows is more useful to you.
[QUOTE=166291;22185723]As long as you need Photoshop, you aren't ready.[/QUOTE] not really [img_thumb]http://ahb.me/2T2[/img_thumb]
[QUOTE=Dusk;22218046]not really [img_thumb]http://ahb.me/2T2[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] instructiong for running cs4 on linux please
[url]http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14318&iTestingId=52421[/url]
With fedora just install kmod-nvidia from the fusion repo, will install all the required applications with the driver.
You should start with a distro like [url=http://www.linuxmint.com/]Mint[/url], [url=http://ubuntu.com]Ubuntu[/url] or [url=http://fedoraproject.org/]Fedora[/url]. (There are quite possibly a good chunk of others, but these are the ones I've had good experience handing out to newbies). You should try these in a Virtualbox, and decide which one you like best - and dive into the Linux world from there. Remember to not be afraid of the CLI. And if you want to learn more installing something like Slackware, Arch (perhaps ArchBang), Gentoo or buying a VPS is a great way to learn, since you don't have these fancy GUI's editing all the settings in text files for you, thus learning more about the structure by editing the text files yourself. A VPS, or a non-desktop-environment forces you to do this. As the guys above me points out, you should be able to get Photoshop running under Linux. It might require some work though. And you shouldn't look on Wine as a "hacky way".
Yeah, don't be scared of the command line. It's great and not complicated.
Whatever you do, don't install Mint.
I'm a web designer using Linux, specially Slackware and SliTaz. It is awkward without access to Adobe, particularly for Flash and Photoshop. However, Gimp is usually a good enough replacement for what web designers use Photoshop for, and with the internet moving away from Flash, it's a good time to start to find replacements for it in your own work. That said, in my work I'm more fond of Vector editors than bitmap, and Linux has a good selection of those, Inkscape and Xara being the best. It has good editors, so you won't have any problem coding the websites, and the ease of setting up a Linux webserver means you shouldn't have any problems testing from home either. *EDIT* Another alternative to the Adobe suite is Aviary, which is free now. It's an online suite of tools, and they're quite competitive. [URL] Aviary.com [/URL]
[QUOTE=Lego399;22303904]Whatever you do, don't install Mint.[/QUOTE] Why exactly? I've never used it, just heard good about it from a few friends.
[QUOTE=Sirupsen;22320166]Why exactly? I've never used it, just heard good about it from a few friends.[/QUOTE] I wonder why, too. Mint is basically Ubuntu but even easier to use. [editline]02:32PM[/editline] Oh, also, Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid is awesome.
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