Anyone else wish Apple gave us the option for an actual hard drive?
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The classic has an actual hard drive that has a capacity of 160GB. I would much rather have this in my iPad, than the SSD 64GB Counterpart. I realize that it has a MUCH lower chance of failure with the SSD's, but I still have my 5g classic ipod video running perfectly fine, I'm not one that drops their device.
The SSD increases cost substantially, and lowers the space, and personally, I'm fine with taking a lower cost and higher capacity version for a higher risk of failure. I wish apple at least gave us the option :c
Well too bad it cost's too much for a whole separate production line.
Anyway, by including SSD's in their products, Apple is increasing the demand for SSD's, thus increasing the rate of which they are manufactured, and eventually lowering the price.
They are going to be VERY competitive with HDD's soon.
HDD are very slow to access so that would hinder speed.
A HDD could easily break if the device was dropped, that doesn't happen as easily with SSDs instead.
Optical disk in mobile device? haha
Because the iPad is meant to be snappy and light and high tech and quiet and smooth and hard drives are slow and heavy and old and loud and rough.
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[QUOTE=Wnd;26117017]Optical disk in mobile device? haha[/QUOTE]
I think you mean mechanical disk but I'll let it slide because it's equally as absurd in a device that is supposed to be light, slender and whose internal components are quite compact.
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;26124307]Because the iPad is meant to be snappy and light and high tech and quiet and smooth and hard drives are slow and heavy and old and loud and rough.
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[QUOTE=Wnd;26117017]Optical disk in mobile device? haha[/QUOTE]
Misinformed dude in thread? haha
I actually wished other manufacturers would start offering soldered on SSD storage.
[QUOTE=Wnd;26117017]Optical disk in mobile device? haha[/QUOTE]
Do us a favor and never post in this section again. You clearly have no common sense or even the essential knowledge to be here judging from your posts
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go away erp
Or, you know.. they could keep the 160GB capable flash memory...
More chilling and listening to music, less worrying about the fucking HDD.
[QUOTE=VeryNiceGuy;26191753]go away erp[/QUOTE]
who are you
[QUOTE=Infinity;26193555]Or, you know.. they could keep the 160GB capable flash memory...
More chilling and listening to music, less worrying about the fucking HDD.[/QUOTE]
What.
In case you didn't know, the iPod classic uses a hard drive.
I pretty sure ipads use plain old flash memory rather than an SSD.
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;26096531]Well too bad it cost's too much for a whole separate production line.
Anyway, by including SSD's in their products, Apple is increasing the demand for SSD's, thus increasing the rate of which they are manufactured, and eventually lowering the price.
They are going to be VERY competitive with HDD's soon.[/QUOTE]
No, it'll just lower Apple's production price and they would pocket the extra.
[QUOTE=B1N4RY!;26189070]Do us a favor and never post in this section again. You clearly have no common sense or even the essential knowledge to be here judging from your posts[/QUOTE]
I have mistaked mechanical disk with optical disk. Now does that leave me with no common sense and essential knowledge?
[QUOTE=The Doctor;26222754]What.
In case you didn't know, the iPod classic uses a hard drive.[/QUOTE]
He's talking about a portable harddrive.
[QUOTE=Wnd;26117017]Optical disk in mobile device? haha[/QUOTE]
Well, a lot of laptops, even older macbooks, use conventional hard drwait a second, [i]Optical[/i] disks? What the fuck are you babbling about?
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[QUOTE=Wnd;26308644]I have mistaked mechanical disk with optical disk. Now does that leave me with no common sense and essential knowledge?[/QUOTE]
because NO mobile device EVER designed has EVER featured a mechanical hard drive, NOT ONE
god don't you people know anything about computers
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;26344622]Well, a lot of laptops, even older macbooks, use conventional hard drwait a second, [i]Optical[/i] disks? What the fuck are you babbling about?
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because NO mobile device EVER designed has EVER featured a mechanical hard drive, NOT ONE
god don't you people know anything about computers[/QUOTE]
The original iPods had a mechanical HDD. That's why they were so heavy.
Basicly they were 5.0mm ATA harddrives spinning at 4200 RPM.
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They replaced it soon after with flash drives because they were less power consuming, lighter, and not as fragile. They are not particularly faster.
An advantage of mechanical HDD's over the flash drivers is that their storage capacity is higher, and the storage capacity barely affects the drive's speed.
afaik the ipod classic still uses those hard drives.
The first generation MacBook Air also used those hard drives :eng101:
[QUOTE=MisterLANCE;26442759]afaik the ipod classic still uses those hard drives.[/QUOTE]
The iPod Classic also hasn't been updated since 2007 and is quite likely to be phased out in the next year or so. There's no future for HDDs in Apple products and as soon as prices get low enough I don't think we'll see them in any portable devices whether they be phones or laptops. Hard drives are power hungry and slow, flash is the future.
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;26188245]I actually wished other manufacturers would start offering soldered on SSD storage.[/QUOTE]
Why would they do that? it would be a nightmare to fix if it broke.
Because laptops with SSDs are way snappier and leave much better impressions when you demo them and after you buy them. Also SSDs don't break /as often/ in theory since they don't have mechanical parts that can be damaged by an impact.
[QUOTE=toaster468;26517954]Why would they do that? it would be a nightmare to fix if it broke.[/QUOTE]
Good point, but one of the biggest features besides speed(in my opinion) is that SSD's are [i]extremely[/i] resistance to impact damage. I was recently watching a video where someone was assembling a pico-ITX computer with an SSD and before he put the SSD in he said something along the lines of "cool thing about SSD's are they are neigh indestructable" then to prove his point he whacked the drive against the desk he was assembling it on. Then he assembled the computer and turned it on.
TL;DR You'd be more likely to fracture the logic board before you hurt the SSD's, so repairing them is unlikely.
The only problem with the onboard SSDs imo is that if the logic board dies, you have little recourse in getting your data back without going to a repair shop or the mfg (unless the mfg finds a way to allow you to interface with it without requiring the mobo to be functional or other such parts)
[QUOTE=Euphoracle;26521138]The only problem with the onboard SSDs imo is that if the logic board dies, you have little recourse in getting your data back without going to a repair shop or the mfg (unless the mfg finds a way to allow you to interface with it without requiring the mobo to be functional or other such parts)[/QUOTE]
What if the SSD's were soldered onto a daugherboard? Wait, then it would just be a standard SSD.
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;26521157]What if the SSD's were soldered onto a daugherboard? Wait, then it would just be a standard SSD.[/QUOTE]
Well no. It wouldn't be interfacing with SATA or require SATA power, so it wouldn't be the same as a [i]standard SSD[/i]
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