• Ford car wrests control of steering
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This is such a bad idea. Making things way too easy for drivers makes shit drivers. If I had my way, you would have to drive a stick shift with no power steering for a month to get your drivers liscense. Sarcasm aside, I'd much rather see smarter drivers than smarter cars.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;42465944]This is such a bad idea. Making things way too easy for drivers makes shit drivers. If I had my way, you would have to drive a stick shift with no power steering for a month to get your drivers liscense. Sarcasm aside, I'd much rather see smarter drivers than smarter cars.[/QUOTE] There will always be stupid drivers, I'd rather have smart cars.
Taking all control, responsibility and need to do anything away from people. [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R3xk4MTb6bI/UX18IQrnB2I/AAAAAAAAAJA/4NJo3KYKO5c/s1600/WALL-E-humans_320.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Birdman101;42465944]This is such a bad idea. Making things way too easy for drivers makes shit drivers. If I had my way, you would have to drive a stick shift with no power steering for a month to get your drivers liscense. Sarcasm aside, I'd much rather see smarter drivers than smarter cars.[/QUOTE] Indeed. Pass your test in a Ford Model A first. If you can drive that thing you can drive a modern car as well. [QUOTE=Stopper;42466027]There will always be stupid drivers, I'd rather have smart cars.[/QUOTE] No. That just makes it even worse. Just pull licenses instead. If someone can't drive they shouldn't be allowed to drive. We'd make faster and larger leaps in road safety if we stopped pampering drivers and started pulling licenses.
[QUOTE=Stopper;42466027]There will always be stupid drivers, I'd rather have smart cars.[/QUOTE] The problem with smart cars is that more systems = more shit to break, and if people don't know how to react in an emergency situation because their car inevitably breaks... [editline]9th October 2013[/editline] Still, having 1000 cars that stop idiots from being shitty drivers in emergency situations outweighs the 10 cars in that 1000 that would fail.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;42467012]The problem with smart cars is that more systems = more shit to break, and if people don't know how to react in an emergency situation because their car inevitably breaks... [editline]9th October 2013[/editline] Still, having 1000 cars that stop idiots from being shitty drivers in emergency situations outweighs the 10 cars in that 1000 that would fail.[/QUOTE] Or you could just make driving tests more thorough and then you have less idiots on the road.
[QUOTE=TestECull;42466988]No. That just makes it even worse. Just pull licenses instead. If someone can't drive they shouldn't be allowed to drive. We'd make faster and larger leaps in road safety if we stopped pampering drivers and started pulling licenses.[/QUOTE] if someone can't drive and they get into the very incident this is meant to avoid (running over somebody or hitting an obstacle and killing themselves/passengers) it's way too fucking late to just pull their licence and say "ohh youuuu". The great thing about this technology is it isn't doing anything for you until it's too late for you to react. You don't just slam on the gas and take your hands off the wheel and you're whisked away to work, it's a normal car in all control and function except now the reactionary systems aren't just "oops you hit something here's an airbag"
[QUOTE=Coffee;42467074]Or you could just make driving tests more thorough and then you have less idiots on the road.[/QUOTE] Yeah but then idiots who are shitty at driving will cry that the new driving tests are infringing on their right to pilot a several ton hunk of metal
[QUOTE=Protocol7;42467012]The problem with smart cars is that more systems = more shit to break, and if people don't know how to react in an emergency situation because their car inevitably breaks...[/QUOTE] people aren't going to just happily leave decisive driving up to the car, a vehicle's ability to flinch is going to be a great sales point but nobody in their right mind is going to go "sweet now I can just do whatever I want and it'll correct me if I'm on a crash course!" and this is coming from a Chicagoan, people on the highway and in the city can be the shittiest drivers outside of russian dash cam montages. There's roadsigns that do nothing but tell you the time to major highway exits and [url=http://goo.gl/maps/s1816]keep a tally of how many people died on the highway so far this year[/url] Layers of safety are great. People who misinterpret it and somehow become awful drivers in general? How did they get their licence. I'm sure we'll hear some made up cautionary tales like [i]"guy who sets 'cruise control' on his new RV thinking it's autopilot then goes in the back to cook something on the stove"[/i]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=metkEeZvHTg]And you people [I]want[/I] this to happen? [/url] Lets try upgrading security networks first, how about that. [QUOTE=TestECull;42468184] Driver's licenses are handed out like candy, that's how. My license test consisted of a 25 question written exam, 20 of which were DUI regulations, and a calm tour of a suburb filled in as the road test. NOTHING in that process in any way guaranteed that I actually knew what the fuck I was doing. Yet that's all the DOT deemed necessary to license drivers.[/QUOTE] To add to your point. It isn't all that hard to slip the instructor a $50 during the test as well, making driving even more hilariously dangerous.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;42467101]if someone can't drive and they get into the very incident this is meant to avoid (running over somebody or hitting an obstacle and killing themselves/passengers) it's way too fucking late to just pull their licence and say "ohh youuuu". [/quote] And that's why you couple pulling existing bad driver's licenses with stricter requirements to get one in the first place. [quote] The great thing about this technology is it isn't doing anything for you until it's too late for you to react. [/quote] And then it wrests control from you at any moment for any reason the computers deem fit. You're pretty fucked if they mistake a pidgeon for a pedestrian, or if they fail entirely, or if some software glitch causes it to go off while you're trying to park. [quote]You don't just slam on the gas and take your hands off the wheel and you're whisked away to work[/quote] I wouldn't anyway. But stupid people, IE the people who you claim benefit most from these things, will do EXACTLY that. And that's why we should stop bandaiding the problem. Instead of giving bad drivers more crutches just get them off the road to begin with. If it's harder to obtain a license and easier to lose one less bad drivers will be on the road, and that will make the roads far safer than all the bandaid technologies you can dream up. You're more likely to die in a crash in one of these cars driven by a moron than you are in a Model A driven by a good, safe driver. Simple as that. [quote] it's a normal car in all control and function except now the reactionary systems aren't just "oops you hit something here's an airbag"[/QUOTE] No, it isn't a 'normal car in all function'. It's a car that will at random wrest control from the driver because a computer believes some arbitrary blob on its sensors is an obstacle. [QUOTE=daijitsu;42467241]people aren't going to just happily leave decisive driving up to the car, a vehicle's ability to flinch is going to be a great sales point but nobody in their right mind is going to go "sweet now I can just do whatever I want and it'll correct me if I'm on a crash course!"[/quote] And yet people do exactly that. [quote] People who misinterpret it and somehow become awful drivers in general? How did they get their licence. [/quote] Driver's licenses are handed out like candy, that's how. My license test consisted of a 25 question written exam, 20 of which were DUI regulations, and a calm tour of a suburb filled in as the road test. NOTHING in that process in any way guaranteed that I actually knew what the fuck I was doing. The only thing that testing confirmed was that A: I knew the penalties for DUI and B: Could navigate simple four-way stop signs. Yet that's all the DOT deemed necessary to license drivers. It boggles my mind and it explains why people seem to think technologies like this are a good idea. Nobody can fucking drive anymore and the government seems to think lowering the bar so everyone has a license they can use as a photo ID is a great idea.
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[QUOTE=TestECull;42468184]And yet people do exactly that.[/QUOTE] can anyone actually explain why the "people do stupid shit anyways" argument is always used in favor of [i]not implementing precautions against stupid shit[/i]
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