• Vita sales on the 'low end' of expectations, says Sony CEO
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[url]http://www.shacknews.com/article/77293/vita-sales-on-the-low-end-of-expectations-says-sony[/url]
There's a reason people arn't that happy with the console right now in the EU, it's because of constant unknown delays of games that arn't even being translated beyond english, missing features as many things are US only. They should get their stuff in order, I'd have the games I want right now for that console if it wasn't for these 'unknown' delays.
lower the damn memory card prices $100 for 32gb is fucking insane
Maybe it's because it costs as much as a console, has no games and their memory cards are expensive? The vita has so much potential, but the lack of games, high price and other stuff is making it fail. It's a very powerful and neat system, but I don't see any reason to get it.
Maybe lower the price and make the games not so goddamn expensive (most of them are 40 dollars.) then it would sell more.
I've had my vita about two weeks now, and with Playstation plus and a memory card you get a ton of games and those games are pretty good, I'm having more fun with it than I did my 3DS. Plus the vita is way quicker in getting around the menus and actually has a proper sleep mode. I'm happy with my purchase, I just hope we get more games this year. Plus it isn't that expensive when compared to the 3DS anymore. Can get it new with game + memory card for £160.
Bought mine second hand a couple months ago and use it more for watching videos than anything else. Really just got it to play only PS1 games but there aren't enough of them. Also when i heard Sony weren't going to put PS2 games on it except for limited HD re-releases i feel they missed a big opportunity to sell me my whole catalogue of PS2 games to me a second time.
maybe if it wasn't $250 plus $50+ for a decent memory stick and $40-$50 per game(very few of which are actually good) its an amazing handheld but sony fucked it
Cheaper memory cards, more third party support and of course more first party titles! As mentioned, it is a fine piece of hardware but Sony fucked it up in any possible way.
[QUOTE=wombo;39146772]Maybe it's because it costs as much as a console, has no games and their memory cards are expensive? The vita has so much potential, but the lack of games, high price and other stuff is making it fail. It's a very powerful and neat system, but I don't see any reason to get it.[/QUOTE] I think it's also because of all the smartphones people have now. A handheld console doesn't appeal to people as much as it did before when phones were a lot weaker than a psp.
[QUOTE=CapsAdmin;39147928]I think it's also because of all the smartphones people have now. A handheld console doesn't appeal to people as much as it did before when phones were a lot weaker than a psp.[/QUOTE] Maybe, but the 3ds is selling pretty good, almost 8 times more than the vita.
Every single person I know whos got a vita loves it as a hardware But they hate the fact that sony is just shit at actually getting games on there and making a real incentive to keep playing it. Sony just thinks they can do what they did for the PS2 - release it and it'll sell itself without any effort on their part. That type of thinking failed with the PS3, it failed with the PSP and now it's failing again with the PS vita. The markets are different, their immense success with the PS2 was almost purely luck and good timing. They think people will simply buy it just because it is a thing that sony made and as such developers will just make games for it all the time. They need to actively get devs to hop on board with the vita, work with companies to incentivsise more games on the system, make it so the customer doesn't feel nickle and dimed while using it (memory cards anyone?), make it a less scary purchase for consumers, etc. They are doing none of this. Sony these days expects to just release a product and the consumers to do the work for them. If they try doing this again with the PS4, especailly if Valve comes out with a rumored "steam box" and Sony actually implements its anti-used game DRM onto it, I can garuntee Sony's playstation will go out of business for good much how Sega dropped out of the console business.
Sony has really good looking consoles but terrible implementations for them.
[QUOTE=KorJax;39148092]They are doing none of this. Sony these days expects to just release a product and the consumers to do the work for them. If they try doing this again with the PS4, especailly if Valve comes out with a rumored "steam box" and Sony actually implements its anti-used game DRM onto it, I can garuntee Sony's playstation will go out of business for good much how Sega dropped out of the console business.[/QUOTE] Well Sega dropped out because Sony aggressively marketed against them, but I do agree with what you're saying. It's sad, too, because the rest of Sony as a whole is doing pretty bad; their gaming division is reportedly their shining feature right now, so their newest product doing poorly does not bode well for the company as a whole. Not that I think the entirety of Sony will just up and vanish over pulling out of the console hardware business, I'm not saying that. Just saying that it'll really hurt them if they don't pick up their feet and get something going.
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39146736]lower the damn memory card prices $100 for 32gb is fucking insane[/QUOTE] $120 here for the 32gb, and that's usually also the price for a newly released console game. :(
[QUOTE=Zet;39148868]$120 here for the 32gb, and that's usually also the price for a newly released console game. :([/QUOTE] I went to your Steam profile to check where you're from but somehow I already knew it would be Australia.
I'm getting tired of people ripping on the Vita for the same reasons all the time. And I'd just like to address a few of them now. [B] -Vita is too expensive[/B] Compared to the similarly priced 3DS, I'd say not really. Just comparing the Hardware, Vita can do a whole lot more then the 3DS can do on it's own. I use my Vita all the time as a media device and watch movies, Youtube, Netflix, listen to music, and other shit. The only lack luster tech in the Vita are the two cameras, which are meant more for AR gaming anyway. If you're interested in a phone, I could see why investing in [U]any[/U] hand held would seem overpriced, but for people just interested in getting a dedicated hand held for gaming, I'd say Vita is priced pretty well, in the US at least. [B]-Vita has no games[/B] This is the one I find most dubious. Vita already has a sizable amount of games worth playing. I get that the point is Vita doesn't have a ton of exclusive games at the moment, but not everyone needs to have exclusives. Exclusively, you have great games like Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush, and Little Big Planet Vita which are phenomenal games I'd say are must buys for any Vita owner. Then you have great ports, Multiplatform titles and new editions of games like Persona 4 Golden, Playstation All-Stars, Metal Gear Solid Collection, Mortal Kombat, Rayman Origins, Disgaea 3, and plenty more (Just listing off the ones I've played and own). Then you have PSN titles for Vita like Stranger's Wrath, Sound Shapes, and Escape Plan, not to mention the library of PSP and PS1 titles on PSN. [B] -Vita Games are expensive[/B] Compared to games on the App store maybe, but what a fucking surprise. The average Vita game costs $40 USD, the same cost of a 3DS game. You get more for what you pay on both platforms. Then Sony is being generous enough with their Cross Buy Iniatitive, where buying the PS3 version gets you a free downloadable version of the Vita game, and introducing PlayStation Plus to Vita (Being Subscribed now pretty much gets you the best exclusives for Vita free). The biggest problems Sony is facing with the Vita is that the memory cards are a fucking joke, and turns away alot of prospective purchasers with hidden fees. That and the lack of third party support, which they won't get unless people buy the Vita, which people won't until it gets more games. It's sort of a terrible cycle that Sony has to break if they want Vita to take off; but I think Sony could pull it off and make Vita as much of a success as it's predecessor. But seriously, Sony, lower the price of the System and start packing a memory stick with the system OR cut the prices on the memory cards and maybe more reluctant people will hop on and garner the system more third party support. [QUOTE=Inplabth;39149231]Also there's the constant updates to crush custom firmware and people trying to do their own shit with the Vita. I'd buy one if I knew I could maybe throw an emulator on it to play older games, and in turn, I'd probably end up buying some of the Vita games too.[/QUOTE] Won't hapen ever. Custom Firmware was awesome on PSP, but I don't think I had purchased more then like 4-5 games because of it. Sure it sold PSP's, but it did very little to sell PSP games outside Japan.
The vita doesn't have much support from other developers. It's like the API for the Vita is so constricted.
There is quite a lot of games for the Vita, and they just don't have english translations.
Hopefully it'll get better during this year, the PS Vita is my first handheld since the gameboy advance and I really enjoy playing on it like I did on that one. Say what you will, the Vita has less games, though if you consider the PSP and PSOne library it's quite big, it's far better than whatever the DS had to offer, it too has a big load of games, but many of them are hardly worth looking at.
[QUOTE=Jackald;39154300]Yeah i'm finding this. The games are fun, but it's predominantly ports, remakes and re-releases. The only original PSVita game I can think of that's any good is Gravity Rush.[/QUOTE] The other problem is the downloadable games are just awful for the money There are literally games on the download service that are charged $10, when the same exact fucking game is on iOS for $1 Why? Because Sony thinks people will actually buy that shit so they can get lots of money. It's stupid stuff like that why they are suffering so much. Nobody wants to buy into your nickle and diming scams sony, and that's why Vita is failing. Its why the PSP go failed. It's not the sole reason why PS3 was in last place this generation but its certainly a major factor. And its also why Apple/iOS is so fucking huge right now for mobile games, because its so much cheaper to get quicky time waster games and everyone already has an apple device anyways (well not literally everyone, but you get the point). And the non-time waster games like Infinity Blade and such? Not more than $5/$10. [editline]9th January 2013[/editline] It BLOWS my mind that Sony can't realize any of this, when its so painfully obvious to the consumers and the critics.
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I bought a Vita during Black Friday, and it's a wonderful piece of hardware, but it's expensive all around. $200 was what I spent for the console. $50 for a significant memory card. Games are $50 new retail, and the average price is $40, and even EDF2017 Portable that just came out in NA, digital only, is $40. Between the expensive accessories, expensive upfront costs, and expensive games, it's a terrible platform to jump on.
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39146736]lower the damn memory card prices $100 for 32gb is fucking insane[/QUOTE] If the Vita had used standard SD cards I probably would have bought one day-one. It's an amazing system made shitty by a few bad decisions, which are costing them sales, which are preventing developers from working with it.
At this point it's more econimical to buy a PSP.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39160295]If the Vita had used standard SD cards I probably would have bought one day-one. It's an amazing system made shitty by a few bad decisions, which are costing them sales, which are preventing developers from working with it.[/QUOTE] Oh, definitely. Hell, I bet the Vita would've sold more at launch if it used SD cards for memory. Still, the issue with games is a big problem. The fact that I only use my Vita for Persona 4 Golden is a sign that something is wrong.
[QUOTE=MIPS;39160323]At this point it's more econimical to buy a PSP.[/QUOTE] In the long run, if everything goes well, it'll be better to have a Vita, because many PSP games are also on there with sometimes the option to use the second analog stick, though it will probably be limited to left/right like in Persona 3 Portable.
The PSP's got an assload more games though compared to the Vita.
How did Sony go from such success as the PS1 and PS2 to their current state?
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39164889]How did Sony go from such success as the PS1 and PS2 to their current state?[/QUOTE] The pricing shock and lack of good games at launch for the PS3 and PSP is what leads to this
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