• Alienware Steam Machine is the one Valve believe will "make the most Steam users happy"
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[url]http://www.pcgamesn.com/alienware-steam-machine-one-valve-believe-will-make-most-steam-users-happy[/url]
Really depends on the price. It looks cool but we haven't even seen the specs yet
Only one of them can make the most people happy unless there's a tie, that's kind of how works.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43447163]Really depends on the price. It looks cool but we haven't even seen the specs yet[/QUOTE] The article states the price will be able to compete with the ps4 and xbox one.
Something tells me, that it's using laptop parts. At least considering that both an intel and nvidia gpu is used. Which points at optimus to me.
I still don't really understand the market for this machine. Who are they trying to sell it to?
[QUOTE=DeandreT;43447305]I still don't really understand the market for this machine. Who are they trying to sell it to?[/QUOTE] Just like me in the other thread. If it's higher than $500 it just screams buy-a-ps4-instead-why-would-you-need-$1000-pc-to-play-indie-games
Alienware needs to stop cutting back on the GPU as they always use something silly like a GTX 645 in their compact models which just isn't good enough for what they advertise and cost.
[QUOTE=damnatus;43447334]Just like me in the other thread. If it's higher than $500 it just screams buy-a-ps4-instead-why-would-you-need-$1000-pc-to-play-indie-games[/QUOTE] Well they apparently have a $500 version but I still really don't see the big picture of it all. Their targeted market is people who want to play PC games on their TV. Don't want to pay $400-500 for a console. They also aren't interested in just paying a couple bucks and getting a long ass HDMI cable instead of a $500 product.
[QUOTE=DeandreT;43447375]Well they apparently have a $500 version but I still really don't see the big picture of it all. Their targeted market is people who want to play PC games on their TV. Don't want to pay $400-500 for a console. They also aren't interested in just paying a couple bucks and getting a long ass HDMI cable instead of a $500 product.[/QUOTE] Isn't it reasonable for people to want to have something that they can use as a computer that also plays games, yet has a prebuilt plug-and-play console sort of feel to it? Its making computer gaming a less intimidating thing for gamers, and I think its a great thing.
[QUOTE=DeandreT;43447375]Well they apparently have a $500 version but I still really don't see the big picture of it all. Their targeted market is people who want to play PC games on their TV. Don't want to pay $400-500 for a console. They also aren't interested in just paying a couple bucks and getting a long ass HDMI cable instead of a $500 product.[/QUOTE] don't forget that steam's library of 2500+ games consists of almost entirely indie games/ports of old games that can be played on a netbook. [editline]7th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=monkey11;43447439]Isn't it reasonable for people to want to have something that they can use as a computer that also plays games, yet has a prebuilt plug-and-play console sort of feel to it? Its making computer gaming a less intimidating thing for gamers, and I think its a great thing.[/QUOTE] wait what? use as a computer? steamos isn't good for anything except, y'know, steam
As I see it, it's for - console gamers kinda interested in PC but want all the customization & open platform benefits without any of the hardware setup horror - desktop PC owners that want a small box in their living room so they can play couch games there without having to carry the tower from their living room there, hook it up, then once they're done reverse it all. It would especially lend itself to PC gamers getting console gamers on board as Family Sharing and streaming Windows games to SteamOS can open up a huge library at no cost to them, which is a huge advantage over buying NextGen consoles that have limited or no backwards compatibility. There may also be additional benefits in the future due to the systems being open to modification, but that's just speculuation. We also don't know yet what AAA devs Valve has partnered with according to the Steam Universe reveals, or what titles (multiplats? PC exclusives?) a potential launch lineup may include. What it isn't supposed to do is replace your desktop, so if you're happy gaming in your room, maybe tune it once the controller is finalized.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;43447469] - console gamers kinda interested in PC but want all the customization & open platform benefits without any of the hardware setup horror [/quote] One implies the other. You can't get into [B]linux[/B] customization without general software and hardware knowledge. [QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;43447469] - desktop PC owners that want a small box in their living room so they can play couch games there without having to carry the tower from their living room there, hook it up, then once they're done reverse it all. [/QUOTE] Again, no one in their right mind would buy a $1000 indie gaming machine.
[QUOTE=damnatus;43447494]One implies the other. You can't get into [B]linux[/B] customization without general software and hardware knowledge. Again, no one in their right mind would buy a $1000 indie gaming machine.[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about $1k indie gaming machines and I'm not talking about recompiling kernels. I'm talking about the console-comparable price point the article mentions, announced AAA dev support and mods.
[QUOTE=DeandreT;43447305]I still don't really understand the market for this machine. Who are they trying to sell it to?[/QUOTE] People that heard PC gaming is better than consoles, but still want a somewhat familiar console unit. Impulse buying, review ignoring toolbars basically. I really don't see who else would buy one unless they're misinformed about good PC specs. I really want a Steam controller though.
[QUOTE=damnatus;43447452]don't forget that steam's library of 2500+ games consists of almost entirely indie games/ports of old games that can be played on a netbook. [editline]7th January 2014[/editline] wait what? use as a computer? steamos isn't good for anything except, y'know, steam[/QUOTE] You mean the first thing you'd do on a steambox isn't replace the OS with windows?
[QUOTE=wraithcat;43447612]You mean the first thing you'd do on a steambox isn't replace the OS with windows?[/QUOTE] May as well just build your own PC at that point. [QUOTE=wraithcat;43447296]Something tells me, that it's using laptop parts. At least considering that both an intel and nvidia gpu is used. Which points at optimus to me.[/QUOTE] Article only states an Intel CPU and an Nvidia GPU from what I can see. Most Intel CPUs have an integrated GPU these days though.
[QUOTE=DeandreT;43447305]I still don't really understand the market for this machine. Who are they trying to sell it to?[/QUOTE] People who don't want to / can't build custom PCs and want it easy to use. Also, non-steamuser.
as mentioned, family sharing and game streaming from other pcs (thus supporting windows-only games), from computers in other rooms, coupled with sleek sizes make these useful for living room entertainment centers i don't know why people keep spazzing that its only useful for indie games we'll find out how playable big budget fighters that don't support controllers are when we try out steam's controller (which can map as keyboard/mouse inputs) [editline]7th January 2014[/editline] and remember that supposedly, since it uses fancy trackpads instead of thumbsticks, it will work fine
I dont really see how this AW Steam Machiene is any different from regular AW's Other than the Steam OS Don't Typical AW's have every feature listed in that article?
[QUOTE=wraithcat;43447612]You mean the first thing you'd do on a steambox isn't replace the OS with windows?[/QUOTE] completely defies the "prebuilt plug-and-play console sort of feel to it" point he was making.
It's all good... steamOS + alienware (+ their Dell partners) = [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILAlhwUgIU"]NSA friendly[/URL] (0:54:57) steam machines. Can't wait :D
[QUOTE=damnatus;43447494]One implies the other. You can't get into [B]linux[/B] customization without general software and hardware knowledge. Again, no one in their right mind would buy a $1000 indie gaming machine.[/QUOTE] I don't see what part of it you don't get. The specs are great, steam's linux library is great. Having a fixed OS is also going to encourage Linux ports.
Personal experience is, Alienware is shit ever since they got bought up by dell. It's just how it's been... Shotty boards, shitty bios and drivers. Out sourced dell tech support in India. Damn shame really... I remember back when The Screen Savers was doing their server with for Battlefield: Vietnam and they were boasting the awesome specs of their alienware towers they were using to play in the pub match... I thought that was the best shit in the world, everyone did, alienware was king back then. [img]http://chrisullrich.net/wp-content/uploads//2013/01/leo-patrick-screen-savers.jpg[/img] The best VALUED laptops out are Toshiba Qosmio's believe it or not. If you want a custom build, I see alot of good custom shops out there doing hardware for steambox. Xotics, Falcon NW, ibuypower, etc.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;43448288]I don't see what part of it you don't get. The specs are great, steam's linux library is great.[/QUOTE] ... the price isn't?
Well if Alienware is the only one that will "make us happy" and other brands have been revealed at $1800 how much is this gonna cost?
[QUOTE=Satane;43448693]I just wanted a 150€ box that can stream 1080p[/QUOTE] You can make one yourself. These are intended to actually play games for people who don't have a dedicated gaming PC. Make your own $150 box, slap SteamOS on it and go. Assuming SteamOS streaming is open to everyone.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;43449799]You can make one yourself. These are intended to actually play games for people who don't have a dedicated gaming PC. Make your own $150 box, slap SteamOS on it and go. Assuming SteamOS streaming is open to everyone.[/QUOTE] but what if he doesn't want to make his own, that's kinda the point of the steambox.
[QUOTE=damnatus;43447494]Again, no one in their right mind would buy a $1000 indie gaming machine.[/QUOTE] The Gigabyte Brix Pro (which is what the Gigabyte SM is based on) would be way less than $1000, and should play any indie game out there. Hell even the regular Brix has a HD4400 in it and is less than a PS4 (there's one available for $299 but it only runs at 1.7 Ghz).
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