That church looks like it's ripped straight out of clear sky. Looks like fun though.
Yeah, i'm not feeling too jazzed about it honestly. It seems like they're more trying to pander to mainstream shooter fans than hardcore STALKER fans.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;42408643]Yeah, i'm not feeling too jazzed about it honestly. It seems like they're more trying to pander to mainstream shooter fans than hardcore STALKER fans.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Theman!;42407077]does survarium only have instance based pvp?[/QUOTE]
Why doesn't anybody get that they've only been testing PVP right now, even though the full game [B]is going to have freeroam mode.[/B]
It makes sense to test PVP since it's a good way to start balancing gunplay without needing the entire game world finished.
[QUOTE=The Vman;42408770]Why doesn't anybody get that they've only been testing PVP right now, even though the full game [B]is going to have freeroam mode.[/B]
It makes sense to test PVP since it's a good way to start balancing gunplay without needing the entire game world finished.[/QUOTE]
because open world games are all about pvp now adays.
[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;42409509]because open world games are all about pvp now adays.[/QUOTE]
So.. it's bad when it [I]is[/I] pvp...
[QUOTE=Theman!;42415264]well after a brief check of their website it seems like theyre saying it's only going to be PVE in freeroam, the rest will be instance based, which is shit[/QUOTE]
...but also bad when it [i]isn't?[/i]
Are you just coming in here to be facetious? From what i've seen, pretty much no one wants Stalker/Survivarium to have PvP, all anybody wants i Co-op. Do you honestly know anyone that played the MP on Stalker? And instances are shit. Stalker has always been about having a great atmosphere while crawling through tunnels, trying to survive all on your own, not running and gunning. Personally if they just gave me a remake of SoC with Co-op i'd be fuckin' stoked.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;42417270]Are you just coming in here to be facetious? From what i've seen, pretty much no one wants Stalker/Survivarium to have PvP, all anybody wants i Co-op. Do you honestly know anyone that played the MP on Stalker? And instances are shit. Stalker has always been about having a great atmosphere while crawling through tunnels, trying to survive all on your own, not running and gunning. Personally if they just gave me a remake of SoC with Co-op i'd be fuckin' stoked.[/QUOTE]
I hate PVP in survival games, in dayz I'm fine with it because there isn't more to do but this is just gonna get annoying as fuck after a while, plus I can't wait for douchebags from dayz to run around being super cool bandits.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;42417270]Are you just coming in here to be facetious? From what i've seen, pretty much no one wants Stalker/Survivarium to have PvP, all anybody wants i Co-op. Do you honestly know anyone that played the MP on Stalker? And instances are shit. Stalker has always been about having a great atmosphere while crawling through tunnels, trying to survive all on your own, not running and gunning. Personally if they just gave me a remake of SoC with Co-op i'd be fuckin' stoked.[/QUOTE]
I'm coming in asking you guys why you're so against Survarium, even though it [b]is[/b] going to be a freeroam coop game, just like you're asking for. Like I said before, it makes sense to test PVP right now because then they can test their shooting mechanics before the entire gameworld is complete.
We're not "against" Survivarium, we're just against PvP. We just want co-op.
I'd prefer it if the combat looked and felt kind of slow like in STALKER. The tense moments of hiding and moving around your enemies in those games are amazing, but deary me, the guy in the video even tried to noscope.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;42424676]We're not "against" Survivarium, we're just against PvP. We just want co-op.[/QUOTE]
And it's going to come. So why are you complaining? Just the fact that the PvP mode exists?
[QUOTE=The Vman;42425262]And it's going to come. So why are you complaining? Just the fact that the PvP mode exists?[/QUOTE]
It really seems like you're arguing with me for the sake of it. NO ONE played the multiplayer in Stalker. Stalker isn't a fast-paced action game and the closer we get to a multiplayer PvP thing like that, the farther from Stalker we get. Bread_Baron was right. We lived for those intense moments in Stalker where a firefight would surely mean death. PvP takes away from that. Few mainstream gamers play PvP games to hide in the grass. It's just not the best move overall, the only thing we want is to stalk with our friends. Yeah, co-op is coming but if they make the rest of the game some run and gun shooter, co-op will be too and by then, what's the point.
Edit: Also, PvP never works in Survival games. It'll end up being like Runescape, where new members are lured out to the wilds and slaughtered for their items with no chance.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;42426729]It really seems like you're arguing with me for the sake of it.[/quote]
No, I'm arguing with you because it feels like you aren't giving Survarium a chance when you've still yet to see how the freeroam is going to play out.
[quote]NO ONE played the multiplayer in Stalker. Stalker isn't a fast-paced action game and the closer we get to a multiplayer PvP thing like that, the farther from Stalker we get. Bread_Baron was right. We lived for those intense moments in Stalker where a firefight would surely mean death. PvP takes away from that. Few mainstream gamers play PvP games to hide in the grass.[/quote]
I'm not disagreeing with you on that. But it doesn't really have anything to do with the point I was trying to make.
[quote]It's just not the best move overall, the only thing we want is to stalk with our friends. Yeah, co-op is coming but if they make the rest of the game some run and gun shooter, co-op will be too and by then, what's the point.[/quote]
There's no real way to tell how PVP gameplay would translate to PVE gameplay, as there are a ton of different things to factor in. For example, in PVP you'll probably be a bit less cautious since if you die it only means you wait a couple seconds and respawn, while in PVE it would be completely different, as dying may mean losing your equipment, losing progress on whatever mission you're on, etc, so you'd probably act more carefully.
I'd also like to know where you got the idea that it's run and gun. Neither the trailer, nor any gameplay footage that I'm seeing makes it look fast paced. In the trailer you could see everyone duck behind cover, and most of it was centered around a sniper far away from the battle. How is that running and gunning?
I haven't meant to put out the image that i'm not going to give it a chance and try it, so sorry if i have, it's more like it's not going to be like the Stalker we all know and love. And comparatively to that, it IS run and gun. The guys were waltzing straight up to the church without a care in the world. I don't go anywhere in SoC without crouching through the bushes. I dunno, i just feel like they keep making it out like it's going to be Stalker but i know it won't be and it upsets me because i was super stoked for Stalker 2. Maybe it'll be good, maybe it won't. I guess we'll have to see.
[QUOTE=The Vman;42420791]I'm coming in asking you guys why you're so against Survarium, even though it [b]is[/b] going to be a freeroam coop game, just like you're asking for. Like I said before, it makes sense to test PVP right now because then they can test their shooting mechanics before the entire gameworld is complete.[/QUOTE]
Because it is free to play.
How long are morons going to support this model?
[QUOTE=GunFox;42431997]Because it is free to play.
How long are morons going to support this model?[/QUOTE]
Now that [I]is[/I] something that worries me. But hopefully with PVE it won't be so obnoxious, as having the bigger guns doesn't make as big of a difference.
[QUOTE=The Vman;42432939]Now that [I]is[/I] something that worries me. But hopefully with PVE it won't be so obnoxious, as having the bigger guns doesn't make as big of a difference.[/QUOTE]
I really hope they don't make the Free to Play aspect cumbersome...
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