• Upgrading PC
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Hey guys, I built my PC using newegg in 2010 and it was pretty high tech then but now it's definitely showing its age. Shit keeps failing, RAM is dying left and right etc. It even uses DDR2 RAM. Anyway, I figure it's high time to upgrade but I'm a bit out of the loop as I haven't bought much since I built it. I think I'll need to get a new motherboard, GPU, CPU and RAM. What I currently have and sorry, I don't remember the exact names for it all ATI 5770 1gb GPU Intel quad core 2.33 ghz CPU 4gb of DDR2 RAM ASUS micro motherboard I'm gonna mostly be using it for games like Arma 3, Metro: Last Light, Far Cry 3. So kinda high end games. Any help is appreciated oh and I'm in America.
Please use speccy, so we can figure out what CPU and motherboard you have. Also post your PSU model and wattage as well as your budget.
Well the thing is my computer doesn't really work right now, no power to monitor, keyboard and mouse. This is the kind of last straw for me, this kind of shit happens at least once a month and if I'm replacing just about all of it, does it really matter what shit I have now? My PSU is a Corsair TX 650W. My budget will probably be around $400ish
If you want to replace everything you are looking at a 650 Ti Boost, the standard gaming minimum of 2 x 4 GB DDR3-1600 memory, an i3 and an appropriate motherboard or the AMD equivalent. This is my recommendation: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1pwYo[/url] you can choose a lower end i3 if the price is too high.
Well how about this processor? [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113331[/url] I really would like a quad core and DDR4 ram. But thanks for your help so far.
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;41754077]Well how about this processor? [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113331[/url] I really would like a quad core and DDR4 ram. But thanks for your help so far.[/QUOTE] You have to understand that core count and clock speed are not indicators of performance. Compare the FX-8350 to the i7-3970x. The AMD has eight cores and 4.0Ghz clock where as the 3970X has six cores and 3.5. The 3970x is the fastest consumer processor in the world, and the 8350 is a $200 lower-midrange processor. Also AMDs have half the cores they claim to but can run two threads per core, so the processor you noted there is actually a dual core processor which runs four threads. There's also NO point in getting an APU unless you are planning on using integrated graphics and not getting a GPU or even using your old one. DDR4 isn't even out yet.
Well shit, I thought it was out. That's how out of the loop I am. Okay fair enough then, you know more than I do on the matter. I know how to build computers but I;m not as savvy about the super technical bits. Well after a bit of browsing on newegg and looking up reviews I found this for a processor [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286[/url] and this for a motherboard [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131942[/url] I really don't care if its Intel or AMD, just whatever works and is in my budget. But so you're saying go for an Intel CPU? I'm still trying to figure out what GPU to get too. I've been looking more at Nvidias like a 660 but either or really. [editline]7th August 2013[/editline] Actually looking back on your suggestion to me in that link, it all looks very good. I just can't really wrap my head around going from a quad core down to a dual core.
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;41754556]Well shit, I thought it was out. That's how out of the loop I am. Okay fair enough then, you know more than I do on the matter. I know how to build computers but I;m not as savvy about the super technical bits. Well after a bit of browsing on newegg and looking up reviews I found this for a processor [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286[/url] and this for a motherboard [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131942[/url] I really don't care if its Intel or AMD, just whatever works and is in my budget. But so you're saying go for an Intel CPU? I'm still trying to figure out what GPU to get too. I've been looking more at Nvidias like a 660 but either or really. [editline]7th August 2013[/editline] Actually looking back on your suggestion to me in that link, it all looks very good. I just can't really wrap my head around going from a quad core down to a dual core.[/QUOTE] To give you an idea: [url]http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i3-3225-vs-AMD-FX-6300[/url] The i3 beats the 6300 in single-threaded performance (games will be mostly dependent on this) and the 6300 beats the i3 in multi-threaded performance.
[QUOTE=flayne;41754930]To give you an idea: [url]http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i3-3225-vs-AMD-FX-6300[/url] The i3 beats the 6300 in single-threaded performance (games will be mostly dependent on this) and the 6300 beats the i3 in multi-threaded performance.[/QUOTE] Excuse me for sounding dumb, but do most games relay on single thread? I read through that and it looks like the 6300 still beats it in many categories.
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;41765715]Excuse me for sounding dumb, but do most games relay on single thread? I read through that and it looks like the 6300 still beats it in many categories.[/QUOTE] Generally games will only rely on one thread or very few threads. Some games would benefit from having more cores, but most would be better off with better single core performance. Apparently the i3-3220 is the same processor with worse integrated graphics, so get that (or the 6300) instead since you aren't using integrated. [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i33220[/url] Looking around, I found this: [url]http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html[/url] You can see that the i3 is ranked higher than the 6300. Really the only reason I would get the 6300 is if you plan on overclocking. Overclocking on pretty much anything is really AMD's biggest selling point. If you do plan on this be sure to get a good cooler if you don't already have one. Something like the hyper 212 evo or the slightly cheaper TX3. If you do go with the 6300 I would get a better motherboard also.
I really have no plans on overclocking, I've never even tried and probably wouldn't benefit me much for what I do. While I'm also trying to stay somewhat within my budget, I also don't wanna buy a CPU thats good now but won't be worth shit in a year from now. I wanna future proof myself aswell, like how my current rig lasted this long. Will a dual core i3 still be worth it in the future? I mean I'm not just playing games too, also doing other things like movies, Audacity etc. I'm just really trying to get a good processor that'll be quick and will last me a while. Should I look at an i5?
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;41766213]I really have no plans on overclocking, I've never even tried and probably wouldn't benefit me much for what I do. While I'm also trying to stay somewhat within my budget, I also don't wanna buy a CPU thats good now but won't be worth shit in a year from now. I wanna future proof myself aswell, like how my current rig lasted this long. Will a dual core i3 still be worth it in the future? I mean I'm not just playing games too, also doing other things like movies, Audacity etc. I'm just really trying to get a good processor that'll be quick and will last me a while. Should I look at an i5?[/QUOTE] On your budget you aren't going to get anything like that while replacing all four components. On the other hand if you wanted to rely on integrated graphics: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/17w3t[/url] The 4670 is the best i5 you can get (well the 4670k to be more accurate but the 4670 is just that without overclocking ability). It's a pretty good purchase. The integrated graphics are the HD 4600, Intel's best (still not very good, but that's integrated graphics for you). They compare to a GT620/640. You can always save up for a graphics card after that. I'm using the integrated graphics on my 4670k, and they're actually very good for my needs. I get about 30-40 FPS (that's just my guess mind you, I don't actually keep track of the framerate) at 1080p on medium-low settings.
You know that's not a bad idea. My 5770 still works fine (to my knowledge) and could just keep using that until about 2 more weeks from now when I get paid, and then buy a GPU. From what I've read, the i7 won't even be used to its full potential for a while so maybe an i3 or i5 would be good right now.
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;41766399]You know that's not a bad idea. My 5770 still works fine (to my knowledge) and could just keep using that until about 2 more weeks from now when I get paid, and then buy a GPU. From what I've read, the i7 won't even be used to its full potential for a while so maybe an i3 or i5 would be good right now.[/QUOTE] The only difference between haswell i5s and i7s is hyperthreading and about $100. Hyperthreading is not useful in games when your processor already has 4 cores (for the same reason that the 6300 would likely give you less gaming performance in most cases).
I think I'm finally starting to understand. I'm gonna keep looking and see what I can manage if I get an i5.
[url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vP1b[/url] This look good? I think I'll take your suggestion on waiting a few weeks for a new GPU so I'm not dropping a ton of money at once.
That processor doesn't have integrated graphics, so you have to have a GPU to run your computer at all. I don't know why you choice that motherboard. It's 10 dollars more than the one originally recommended and you get: 1 more PS/2 port and -3 Audio ports. The G43 is actually better for less. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130651[/url] If you are willing to stick to your old GPU, the 3350p is a great value because you aren't paying for unused integrated graphics. It's also a pretty decent processor.
See this is why you're here to help. I wouldn't have caught that and I forgot you had posted one, sorry and thanks. Well I'm still trying to get my PC working and all my usual fixing methods aren't working so this time is stumping me. I'm hoping it's not the GPU's fault and if it isn't, it's still a decent card that I'd be happy with while I wait to buy that 660. But in case it is borked, what other i5 with integrated graphics would you suggest? I looked at the 4670 but it's a little over my price range.
Sorry for bumping up an older thread but I finally have money to buy whatever I need so I'm gonna order tonight. So is this: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qW7h[/url] all enough? Again, I wanna run games like Arma 3, GTA V, Metro Last Light etc. so I'm trying to rebuild the best computer for the money. I know there isn't a GPU in there as I'm going to run on my 5770 for like 2 weeks till I get paid so I'm not dropping a ton of money at once.
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;42002523]Sorry for bumping up an older thread but I finally have money to buy whatever I need so I'm gonna order tonight. So is this: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qW7h[/url] all enough? Again, I wanna run games like Arma 3, GTA V, Metro Last Light etc. so I'm trying to rebuild the best computer for the money. I know there isn't a GPU in there as I'm going to run on my 5770 for like 2 weeks till I get paid so I'm not dropping a ton of money at once.[/QUOTE] Looks good to me.
Sweet cause I ordered it last night. Hope its dope
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