• School/education system in your country
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Almost every country has a different system. Post (what you know about) your country's system. In The Netherlands it's like this ([highlight]tl;dr[/highlight] at bottom): You start at like when you're 4 or 5 at the first grade. The first two grades are more playing than learning. At the third, you learn the basic things like arithmetics, reading, writing etc. Goes on until 8th grade where you do a test which determines to what kind of school you will go. The score will always be between 500 and 550 (no idea why). Something like 536 is usually fine. Lower than 532 is usually not really great, but you won't die. You should start worrying about your future when you have lower than 528 or so. Lower than 520 is usually (not always) a destruction of a good future. Also having 550 does not mean you're a genius, far from it really. You can go to (from highest level to lowest) Vwo, Havo and Vmbo. There are a couple lower than Vmbo not worth mentioning because it's prety complicated and I don't even know how it works. At around 534 you can go to Havo and at like 542 you can go to Vwo. I remember I got a 542, but do Havo now. Then you get the secondary school, sometimes called high school. Vmbo will take 4 years, Havo will take 5 years, and Vwo takes 6 years. I think all of them have similar classes like maths, Dutch, English, French (or sometimes it's German instead of French) and a couple more. At the second and third year you get even more (you also get German if you previously had French, or French if you previously had German), and things like physics. The fourth year on Vmbo and Havo, you can choose what we call profiles. There's a nature profile, an economical profile, a cultural profile and another one that's similar to the nature one. All have their own classes, and you can choose some too, like whether you get French or German (or sometimes neither) or computer science. Everyone will always have some classes like Dutch, English, Religious Education and a few more. Vwo is a little bit different, it has something to do with an nature profile and a economic I think. Last year, you do your exams. If you fail, you'll have to redo the year or go one level lower. Pass, and you can go to a higher level (so like for example from Vmbo to Havo), you can go to tertiary education, or you can completely stop with school. At Vwo, you can skip tertiary education completely and go to university. I'm really unsure how this works, but most people decide to do tertiary education anyway because it looks good in the cv and because they don't want to go to university at the age of 18. The little mind map thingie shows what secondary education can go to what tertiary. The tertiary is the place where you can get your bachelor and master, I think it's somewhat the same as the university in America. Mbo is the a lower level than Hbo. The 'M' basically means 'mid-level' and the 'H' in Hbo basically means 'High level'. The 'bo' mean education. Mbo is usually more practical, like if you want to build things. I believe there are like 4 years of mbo. Afterwards, you can go to Hbo, or you can look for a job. There are more Hbo jobs, but you can most likely still find an ok job with mbo education, depending on what type (like architecture, or art). Hbo is said to be more theoretical, more like marketing, or maybe HR-managing, though both types can also be found at mbo. There are lots of people looking for people who just finished Hbo, so usually it's not really difficult to get a job, depending on what you studied. Some people also get their masters and go to university, though most people avoid university for some reason. Usually teachers who want to teach 4th year Havo or Vwo students do university. A summary would be this: [img]http://gyazo.com/52962043f165ab83dc8898f3a1bbdfcb.png[/img] [highlight][i]tl;dr[/highlight][/i]: you start in primary school, goes till 8th grade, you do a test that decides whether you can do (from highest level to lowest) 'vwo', 'havo' or 'vmbo'. After you finish that, you have a tertiary education comparable to university in america. the two levels in the tertiary are called 'mbo' and 'hbo' where 'hbo' is a higher levels, both can get you an ok job. university is for people who want to study even more. Yours doesn't have to be a wall of text like mine
The education in the US is shit. 'Nuff said.
[QUOTE=AmericanInfantry;27078843]The education in the US is shit. 'Nuff said.[/QUOTE] it could be worse.
I can confirm the OP is correct.
US education system blows.
US system sucks, though you get like a 10% chance of a decent teacher high school.
California school system sucks anyways. The teachers are mean, not fun, and give us the most boring things to learn, and we have this shit bell schedule: [img]http://gyazo.com/7110abbd142507db79f14bd355eb99a8.png[/img] 7 fucking AM to 2:55 PM. If you are lucky enough to get in A period, you get to get out at 1:30 PM, but you gotta start at 6:30 [editline]2nd January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=alt;27078438] [highlight][i]tl;dr[/highlight][/i]: you start in primary school, goes till 8th grade, you do a test that decides whether you can do (from highest level to lowest) 'vwo', 'havo' or 'vmbo'. After you finish that, you have a tertiary education comparable to university in america. the two levels in the tertiary are called 'mbo' and 'hbo' where 'hbo' is a higher levels, both can get you an ok job. university is for people who want to study even more. [/QUOTE] If our school system did that, I would study my ass off to get out of school
I have a poor experience with public education in the US. The majority of teachers I've had are lifeless, boring, and unhelpful; an infamous quote: "You gotta get it yourself, that's just life." What I get most out of the countless lectures I've been through are mainly notes that do not make sense at first, so I participated in a few study groups since the 8th grade until the end of the 12th. I've been a 3.5+ GPA student along with the powerhouse of a study group all through high school, none of us have ever been assigned advanced courses since the school couldn't afford to hire more teachers for them. Few of us were good individual learners either, but it seemed that no challenge could stop us (not even the dreaded SAT screwed us). Not only that, we collaborated on community service and gained an average of 100+ community service hours (well over the 40 hour minimum) via the local homeless shelter, the public hospital, and park cleanups. I thought we secured a great scholarship but I was wrong. How did we screwed and ended up getting loans to fill in the gaps, for just community college? The education board decided to reduce scholarship money in good old 2009, there just wasn't much for the "smart" and just barely for the "gifted". In the end I only got $1500 on graduation (enough for a single term, not including textbook rentals). Now I spend a good deal of my time registering to many (not-for-profit?) organizations I've never heard of and writing 20 five-paragraph essays a year to build up money to repay my initial, continuing, and possibility future loans. After a year and a half, I earned about $5000 from typing about my opinions ranging from current issues and controversies to blabbering about my hobbies, I currently have a surplus but I don't believe it'll last once I transfer to a public university for my AA degree in criminal justice. [highlight]TL;DR[/highlight] [b]* My teachers taught poorly * Get in study groups to learn most of anything * 3.5+ average GPA and 100+ community service hours, got only $1500. * Writing 20 essays a year, for college money.[/b]
[QUOTE=LinuX;27165302]California school system sucks anyways. The teachers are mean, not fun, and give us the most boring things to learn, and we have this shit bell schedule: [img_thumb]http://gyazo.com/7110abbd142507db79f14bd355eb99a8.png[/img_thumb] 7 fucking AM to 2:55 PM. If you are lucky enough to get in A period, you get to get out at 1:30 PM, but you gotta start at 6:30 [editline]2nd January 2011[/editline] If our school system did that, I would study my ass off to get out of school[/QUOTE] You have brunch?! You lucky fucking son of a bitch.
[QUOTE=Desert Rat;27167287]You have brunch?! You lucky fucking son of a bitch.[/QUOTE] It's for people in "A" period.
I see, nevermind then.
[QUOTE=thekinglichs;27167772]Canada is shit, I immigrated here a long while ago back when i was in the first grade from China. I pretty much learned everything besides language and history up until grade 6-7 ish back in China.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure that's just as much about Chinese parents being really strict on their children and making them work hard (as they're their only child) as much as it is about Canada's system being shit.
US education is shit because the billions of dollars we're spending on the war could have been going to education. Every school i've been to or have heard of has had budget cuts, been poorly funded, and had second-rate equipment.
I like Australia's system, start at "Prep" 7 years in primary school, Prep to 6, Secondary school 7-12, tertiary is just university. Good system, none of the stupid freshman bullshit that America's shitty school system has.
[QUOTE=Takeout;27168230]US education is shit because the billions of dollars we're spending on the war could have been going to education. Every school i've been to or have heard of has had budget cuts, been poorly funded, and had second-rate equipment.[/QUOTE] Same with Sweden...exept for the war thing I have really no idea where the fuck our money goes.
[QUOTE=kaven;27169204]Same with Sweden...exept for the war thing I have really no idea where the fuck our money goes.[/QUOTE] Weed
Soviet education is best, and free!
frope.
They get those who completely failed at life, give them a quick teaching course and then they're teachers. Frankie Boyle trained as a teacher.
Nothing -> 12 grades, of which the 11th and 12th are not a must (unless you want to go to university) -> university. End of system.
Kindergarten > Grade school > Primary school > Middle school > High school or University, depends on your occupation interests. If your average mark is below 4.0 after finishing primary school, the only choice for further studying is industrial school, and then maybe high school or to the military. So in Estonia, average mark below 4.0 is a ticket to hobo life, unless you put huge amount of effort and educate yourself for more prestigious schools. In my town we have a kindergarten complex, which is three building at once, U-square shape. One side is for babies, the middle side is a small assembly hall and the other side is for kids who can walk and talk. As for the school, it's basically a huge complex. It almost has every school united into one big gymnasium. It's called united gymnasium. Also the building is linked with city hall, music school and sports complex(gym, swimming park, big gym, town sauna, a room for aerobics, boxing and what-not, and showers. Also coach offices) through a bridge protected by windows, called gallery.
[b]Pre-kindergarten[/b] > [b]Kindergarten[/b] > [b]Pre-school[/b] > [b]Primary School[/b] > [b]Middle School[/b] > [b]High School aimed at specific subjects[/b] > [b]University aimed at subjects of your choice[/b] > [b]Collage aimed at subjects of your choice[/b]
[QUOTE=kaven;27169204]Same with Sweden...exept for the war thing I have really no idea where the fuck our money goes.[/QUOTE] Swedish education system is quite good except for the decisions you get so early. Every person I've met has said "I would have chosen something else". How am I supposed to know what the hell I want to do for the rest of my life when I'm 15?
Iceland bitches. Start in elementary school at age 6. That's grade 1. Now, 7 grades of that shit. Then we go into what's basically still elementary school, but is for 13-16 years old. Then we go into what's called in Icelandic menntaskóli. I think it's called junior high school in the US or something..I'm not sure, anyways 4 years of that shit and then you've got a choice to go to college/high school/university...whatever, I've never understood the difference of those three anyways.
In Norway you have to have Norwegian and new Norwegian, shit is fucking boring, it's like being Japanese and having to learn Chinese as a requirement. And guess what; [b]You never ever use it after you've finished school.[/b]
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Britain here, the education here ain't bad though my school have experienced the wrath of the conservatives, we were meant to be getting a completely new school made to house more students (current school is quite small). Budget cuts let us get our school get painted a different colour. Any way, you start at a nursery at the age of 4, (don't learn shit except how not to embarrass yourself), then you go into reception, which is sort of learning some basic reading + counting. After this it's year 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. End of primary school. Then comes high school, year 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11. At this point when you go into year 7 you're age 12. After all of high school you should have some of your GCSEs and you can choose to go to sixth form for 2 years, to get A-levels. Then you can go to university. We get reminded of our futures almost every day :smith:
From Wikipedia: [img]http://localhostr.com/files/QiXBJy8/fineduc.png[/img] It's awesome [img]http://localhostr.com/files/oPgXxlP/fismug.gif[/img] [editline]3rd January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=FPSMango;27174886]In Norway you have to have Norwegian and new Norwegian, shit is fucking boring, it's like being Japanese and having to learn Chinese as a requirement. And guess what; [b]You never ever use it after you've finished school.[/b][/QUOTE] I feel your pain, we're forced to learn Swedish :saddowns:
Also, does anyone here outside the UK at about the age of 14, choose what is nicknamed "options", as in- 3 subjects of your choice to specialise in for the rest of high school (12-16)? Best options that you make in school. I chose history, advanced science, and geography.
[QUOTE=LinuX;27165302]California school system sucks anyways. The teachers are mean, not fun, and give us the most boring things to learn, and we have this shit bell schedule: [img_thumb]http://gyazo.com/7110abbd142507db79f14bd355eb99a8.png[/img_thumb] 7 fucking AM to 2:55 PM. If you are lucky enough to get in A period, you get to get out at 1:30 PM, but you gotta start at 6:30 [/QUOTE] Whoa, that's really shitty, my first lesson starts at 8:25 (usually, depending on schedule, sometimes one or more hours later). It usually ends at 3:05. However, for me the most school days are 8:25 till 2:15 and very sometimes till 1:00. Everyone has 2 breaks, both 25 minutes. Each class is 50 minutes. On very some days (like today, first day after holidays) it's 45, or even 40 minutes. If a teacher is absent, you don't have to go to that class, if it was the last class, you can go home earlier, or if it's the first class, you can sleep a little longer in the morning. my schedule looks like this: [img]http://gyazo.com/c40cf6d4e230667f371b9457b2fd77f1.png[/img] On monday, my final class is the 6th one. It means I'm off after 2:15. Tuesday is till 7th, 3:05. On Thursday I would be off at a little before 4:00, but the last class is not a real class, it's just a talk with your mentor if you want to. Fridays, it's till the 5th, so I'm off at 1:00. One time, it was wednesday and every teacher but one went to an excursion or was ill, so I had only one class. so yeah, it's pretty awesome here
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