Alright folks. I've been recruited to build a desktop for a friend who does lots of CAD work. His budget is $8,000 and all he needs is the tower and an OS to go with it.
So far I've got this:
[B][URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112324"]LIAN LI PC-P80NB [/URL][/B][B][URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188070"]
EVGA Classified SR-2 [/URL][/B]
[B][URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133468"]PNY VCQK5000-PB NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4GB[/URL]
[/B][B][URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139039"]CORSAIR AX1200i 1200W[/URL]
[/B][B][URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117253"]Intel Xeon X5690 Westmere-EP 3.46GHz[/URL][/B] (x2)
[B][URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145329"]CORSAIR DOMINATOR GT 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000)[/URL][/B] (x2)
[B][URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227792"]OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-256GB[/URL][/B] (x2)
[B][URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792"]WD Black 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache[/URL][/B] (x2)
[B][URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103184"]COOLER MASTER Eisberg 240L Prestige[/URL] [/B](x2)
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
DVD Burner
It goes juuuuust slightly overbudget. Opinions?
seems good
Anybody have experience with that case? I can't tell if I'll be able to fit two radiators in there.
I would recommend using a e5-2687, 2670, or 2667 from the current sandy bridge generation. It's hard for me to tell how much processing he'll need, but just a single 2687w should be more than enough for CAD work. You could use that money to get another graphics card instead, although that may be overkill? It would be easier if you were more specific about what applications he used and how intensely he used each of those application (like the number of polygons).
If the WD drives are going to be in a raid then I would recommend RE4s instead, especially since some places sell 3tb RE4s for under $150.
It might also be helpful to ask around at forums dedicated to working with those kinds of programs, I'm not sure how many facepunch users deal with large-scale CAD drawings.
[QUOTE=MTMod;40655257]Anybody have experience with that case? I can't tell if I'll be able to fit two radiators in there.[/QUOTE]
They might both be able to fit in the front, but you would have no room left for hard drives or optical drives. However, one of the radiators may be able to replace the fans at the top of the case, but I'm not positive about that.
Any particular reason why you're going with LGA 1366 instead of 2011?
[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;40655597]Any particular reason why you're going with LGA 1366 instead of 2011?[/QUOTE]
The first motherboard I chose is native to 1366, recommendations for boards that are 2011?
[QUOTE=joe_sandwich;40655582]It would be easier if you were more specific about what applications he used and how intensely he used each of those application (like the number of polygons). [/QUOTE]
I guess they'll be working in CAD, a bunch of Adobe CS6 applications, and various other 'editing' programs at the same time.
[QUOTE=MTMod;40655879]I guess they'll be working in CAD, a bunch of Adobe CS6 applications, and various other 'editing' programs at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Will the be doing a lot of rendering, thus benefiting from a lot of processor cores?
[QUOTE=joe_sandwich;40656277]Will the be doing a lot of rendering, thus benefiting from a lot of processor cores?[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/24N0Ox7.png[/IMG]
She's so helpful.
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But in all honesty I'm gonna say yes.
[editline]15th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;40655597]Any particular reason why you're going with LGA 1366 instead of 2011?[/QUOTE]
Also have you seen the reviews on the ASUS Z9PE-D8? Doesn't look good.
Why SR-2 and Westmere? They're like almost 3 years old
Depending on what level she is on you can either do fine with just a cheap quaddro fx card and an i7/cheap xenon or go up all the way to that 8000$ super build.
90% of people that do CAD work are fine with a cheap quadro and i7 though.
Disclaimer:
Im a mechanical engineer and use alot of autodesk inventor, solid works and solid edge in massive assembly's. (thousands of parts).
[QUOTE=taipan;40661248]Depending on what level she is on you can either do fine with just a cheap quaddro fx card and an i7/cheap xenon or go up all the way to that 8000$ super build.
90% of people that do CAD work are fine with a cheap quadro and i7 though.
Disclaimer:
Im a mechanical engineer and use alot of autodesk inventor, solid works and solid edge in massive assembly's. (thousands of parts).[/QUOTE]
Great info, thanks! I'm not gonna ask questions, though. If they want an $8,000 PC they're gonna get an $8,000 PC.
What do you guys think is the best choice for motherboard/CPU? I'd like to build it keeping in mind that they want to get $8k worth of computer.
[QUOTE=MTMod;40656622][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/24N0Ox7.png[/IMG]
She's so helpful.
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But in all honesty I'm gonna say yes.
[editline]15th May 2013[/editline]
Also have you seen the reviews on the ASUS Z9PE-D8? Doesn't look good.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with it at all.
[editline]17th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=MTMod;40663776]Great info, thanks! I'm not gonna ask questions, though. If they want an $8,000 PC they're gonna get an $8,000 PC.
What do you guys think is the best choice for motherboard/CPU? I'd like to build it keeping in mind that they want to get $8k worth of computer.[/QUOTE] ASUS Z9PE-D8 And Xeon E5-2687.
Looks like I'm going with that ASUS board and two E5-1660s.
I'm changing to two of [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103183"]THESE[/URL] instead, I should be able to mount both radiators in the top of a case, correct?
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Final list v1:
[URL="http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22176452"]Parts[/URL]
[URL="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009DT8FQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1TLHYFPF68TM9"]Case[/URL]
[QUOTE=MTMod;40669531]Looks like I'm going with that ASUS board and two E5-1660s.
I'm changing to two of [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103183"]THESE[/URL] instead, I should be able to mount both radiators in the top of a case, correct?
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Final list v1:
[URL="http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22176452"]Parts[/URL]
[URL="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009DT8FQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1TLHYFPF68TM9"]Case[/URL][/QUOTE]
It may be a better idea to get a small watercooling loop.
But I guess the lack of maintanence is a better solution.
[QUOTE=MTMod;40669531]Looks like I'm going with that ASUS board and two E5-1660s. [/QUOTE]
I hope I'm not too late, but that 1 at the start of the 1660's product number indicates it only supports a single socket, despite having 2x QPI. The closest you'll find for the 1660 in a 2p workstation is the 2667, which I don't see as a good option since you could get a 2670 for the same price. However, if you want two processors at the price point of the 1660 then you should probably get two 2640s.
[QUOTE=joe_sandwich;40679558]I hope I'm not too late, but that 1 at the start of the 1660's product number indicates it only supports a single socket, despite having 2x QPI. The closest you'll find for the 1660 in a 2p workstation is the 2667, which I don't see as a good option since you could get a 2670 for the same price. However, if you want two processors at the price point of the 1660 then you should probably get two 2640s.[/QUOTE]
This is why I made this thread. Thank you!
I'd also still recommend the RE4s over WD blacks since it appears that they'll be placed in a RAID. I'm not sure how you feel about ebay, but I've had good experiences with this ebay account and [url="http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-RE4-2TB-64MB-Cache-7200RPM-Enterprise-Grade-SATA-3-0Gb-s-3-5-Hard-Drive-/160927563687?pt=US_Internal_Hard_Disk_Drives&hash=item257807bfa7"]you should check out their deal on WD re4 2tb drives[/url]
Also note that $8000 doesn't get you a PC that's 8x better than a $1000 PC. It sounds like they want it to be expensive just to think it's that good.
[QUOTE=Metalcastr;40692943]Also note that $8000 doesn't get you a PC that's 8x better than a $1000 PC. It sounds like they want it to be expensive just to think it's that good.[/QUOTE]
In this situation I would disagree. Since it will be used for CAD and photo/video editing, more is better. In comparison, a $1,000 editing PC will definitely perform noticeably slower than something like this build that is going to have SSDs in RAID, a $1,600 Quadro, two Xeons, and 32GB of RAM.
$8,000 on a workstation=/=$8,000 for a gaming computer
[QUOTE=MTMod;40693597]In this situation I would disagree. Since it will be used for CAD and photo/video editing, more is better. In comparison, a $1,000 editing PC will definitely perform noticeably slower than something like this build that is going to have SSDs in RAID, a $1,600 Quadro, two Xeons, and 32GB of RAM.[/QUOTE]
I understand that, however you're spending $400 on a case, which is wasting their money. If they're going to have multiple projects open, why not go for 64GB of ram? Many pros say they can easily max 32. Also, how computer literate are they? If they're the type to download all the toolbars and install malware, then put in a good security suite too. The machine will be an expensive brick otherwise.
[QUOTE=Metalcastr;40694921]I understand that, however you're spending $400 on a case, which is wasting their money. If they're going to have multiple projects open, why not go for 64GB of ram? Many pros say they can easily max 32. Also, how computer literate are they? If they're the type to download all the toolbars and install malware, then put in a good security suite too. The machine will be an expensive brick otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Upgrading to 64GB is a good idea! There's still room in the budget to squeeze that in.
Do you have any recommendations for an alternative case? Also that Lian Li is $300.
[QUOTE=MTMod;40698717]Upgrading to 64GB is a good idea! There's still room in the budget to squeeze that in.
Do you have any recommendations for an alternative case? Also that Lian Li is $300.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112393[/url]
but really [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139001[/url] or the 900D if you can find it in stock.
[editline]19th May 2013[/editline]
actually would the motherboard even fit into them?
[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;40701496][url]but really [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139001[/url] or the 900D if you can find it in stock.
[editline]19th May 2013[/editline]
actually would the motherboard even fit into them?[/QUOTE]
I can't seem to find a definitive answer for some reason, but since the board takes an E-ATX power connector then I assume it wouldn't fit. Anyways, clear panels on the side of a case always felt gimmicky to me. If you're going to spend eight grand on a computer, I think that $300 for a case is reasonable.
Most of Newegg's Extended ATX cases are between $100-200
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583+600006304+4017&IsNodeId=1&name=%24100+-+%24200&Order=RATING&Pagesize=20&Page=1[/url]
There are a variety of cases there, from flashy to serious.
Also E-ATX is a form factor, standard psu's will work with it.
[QUOTE=Metalcastr;40704283]Most of Newegg's Extended ATX cases are between $100-200
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583+600006304+4017&IsNodeId=1&name=%24100+-+%24200&Order=RATING&Pagesize=20&Page=1[/url]
There are a variety of cases there, from flashy to serious.
Also E-ATX is a form factor, standard psu's will work with it.[/QUOTE]
I've been through that list 5 or 6 times, do you have any specific recommendations?
[QUOTE=MTMod;40704672]I've been through that list 5 or 6 times, do you have any specific recommendations?[/QUOTE]
Pick a few cases that you like, and look up reviews. You want it to have thick metal, no cheap pieces, and no sharp edges. Also make sure people have no trouble fitting in large graphics cards, which the eATX form factor shouldn't have trouble with. Lots of reviews mean that it's a popular case, and probably has professional reviews as well.
Lian Li's are nice and probably some of the best cases, but imo, $400 on a case is just too much
[QUOTE=MTMod;40704672]I've been through that list 5 or 6 times, do you have any specific recommendations?[/QUOTE]
NZXT Switch 810, BitFenix Shinobi XL and Fractal Define XL are good cases
[editline]19th May 2013[/editline]
also for some reason the weight is listed way wrong on the glossy white/black versions of the switch 810, it only says 20lbs but the matte black/gunmetal gray ones have the correct weight of 32lbs
Yeah if you are recommending the Fractal Define XL go for the R2 version as it will support many radiators, though the 800D and if you can find the 900D would be something to really look into. Though the Fractal case is going to be less expensive if you are looking to spend less there.
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