• Some foreign artists are being denied entry into the US for SXSW
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https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/02/09/sxsw-damien-mcfly-deportation/ Early last year, independent artists from other countries started freaking out. Donald Trump’s crackdown on immigration was the unfortunate backdrop.  And SXSW was accused of changing the language in contracts with bands.  The suspect terms and conditions suggested that South by Southwest organizers would report international artists to federal authorities. Roland Swenson, SXSW’s co-founder and CEO, vowed to protect foreign artists last year.  And he pointed to boilerplate language that really hadn’t changed.  Separately, CBP officials denied at least three bands entry into the US.  Some reports put that number at 10. With Trump’s immigration policies now in full-effect, a new report has put foreign artists with ESTA or tourist visas on-edge. Authorities have deported Italian singer Damiano Ferrari, better known by his stage name, Damien McFly.  He had taken a flight from Venice to Los Angeles on January 26th to perform at the NAMM show, the world’s largest trade event for music products. After getting off the plane, DHS officials detained and interrogated Ferrari for 26 hours. After getting off the plane, DHS officials detained and interrogated Ferrari for 26 hours.  Speaking with PadovaOggi, an Italian magazine, the singer explained, “ESTA is a very restrictive visa – actually I think it’s not even a real visa.  And my showcase was not officially sponsored by the Italian government.  So they declared me inadmissible, seized my phone and baggage and kept me in a detention room until I could take the next flight home, 26 hours – and some regret – later.” Another article says it might not be completely trump's fault though. Many artists and fans may quickly blame Donald Trump for his executive orders.  However, the fault may not lie completely with him.  NPR explains that obtaining an O or P visa has proven difficult, even before Trump entered office. Lawyer Brian Taylor Goldstein explained that even after officials issue an O or P visa, individual immigration officers may choose to allow or refuse entry. Now, under Trump’s administration, petitioning for an O or P visa has become more difficult and time-consuming.  Previously, officials could choose to waiver in-person interviews for O or P visa renewals.  Today, in Section 9 of Trump’s latest executive order, all individuals seeking a non-immigrant visa must return to U.S. consulates for personal interviews.
When you become isolationist, guess what that means? It means you lose out on all the good shit the outside world has to offer you.
This would be true for any other country in the world but I'm not sure whether that's a good argument against isolationism when it's the US in question. In case of US, well - most good shit is in the US. Sad but worth thinking about.
Sure, everything except coffee, tea, a large amount of music I listen to, a large amount of the food I eat, many of my online friends, this website itself, uhhhhh
some of the best musical artists are coming from europe and asia
Arguable. There's an extremely strong music scene in the United States that's pretty much unrivaled.
Well, good thing I said some of the best, not objectively better
Gonna have to really really disagree there, the world is big
that's because you have so much more people than a lot of other places in Europe, and probably a lot more editors and labels and such think of it this way: you don't hear foreign garbage there, because they don't become international, unlike some of the US's garbage artists
Load of piss.
That's mostly because of the exposure the US has, and it's basically a big echo chamber, blind to anything not from there
the post also doesn't account for the fact that some cultures can provide interesting perspective into genres from the US because of the cultural differences. Wednesday Campanella for example, I can't find myself getting something like that from a US based hip-hop artist. This doesn't make anything in the US scene unrivaled, it just says that there is a lot of valuable music coming from places other than the US and more music and more perspectives on music brought to the mainstream is always a good thing for any culture.
K-pop is awesome because it's basically a completely alien culture's interpretation of Western pop music. It's gloriously interesting.
This would be an argument if the internet didn't exist. It's not like the US is being cut off from exposure due to isolationist economic policies.
live music is different from recorded music, concerts are entirely different experiences to listening to an album, statements like this greatly simplify what someone gets out of a concert and what the same person gets out of a record
How many KPOP concerts were there in the US before Trump was elected?
It's more a cultural thing
quite a few japanese artists and korean artists have concerts in niche venues, i don't know what your point is, or what trump has to do with this
I brought up Trump specifically because this discussion has turned to isolationist policies, which Trump has been promoting.
no one mentioned trump, they mentioned isolationist policies, trump is far from the subject of discussion. The topic clearly is about isolationism's effect on cultural diversity.
How in the name of God is that at all an excuse for cultural exceptionalism and exclusion?
Hip Hop sure. European electronic music is worlds ahead of the US scene though, especially the UK. I'd say other genres are pretty fairly split.
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