Ok, so guys my old two friends are hating on me for "Stealing" of his nan's paypal for an PCI-E Graphics card (Mine can only fit AGP) and then went through paypal to "Prove" It was me.
Im fed up with being hated on and all my other friends turning against me for nothing.
Can someone please tell me how they cannot trace my IP address as it changes on router restart, which happens daily. And that the 1998 data protection could not have disclosed details about me.
Feel free to talk Tech in here too just to prove that they are wrong and how Paypal can say "It was Him, living at 20 ??? Road in ???" Impossible right? Prove them wrong please!
So you want proof that IP's cannot be traced directly to one address?
If so:
You will only get the approximate physical location of the user (e.g. Palo Alto, California.)
You will not learn the actual name of the person at that IP address, ISP's will only release it if brought to court
Just wait for Gman :v:
Exactly.
You can't be traced to a physical location. At least not publicly willy-nilly.
However, like Adzter said, if that info was needed for a case, your ISP will release it to those who need it.
The ISP should know which IPs are assigned to which modem and on what date. So even if your IP would change daily, they should still know which IP belongs to which subscriber. However, the ISPs don't just give that information to anyone who calls them. I'm just guessing here, though if Paypal was "Investigating" the matter and asked the ISP for information since it will help the investigation, then the ISP might give Paypal the information.
Personally, if it was wrongly accused, I would ask the alleged victims for the information that points to me as the thief.
It's pretty common knowledge on facepunch that a single IP does not represent a person.
An IP is assigned to by ISP to a client's modem. A modem is not a person, that's pretty obvious. A single modem is commonly what's used for a household, Pretty obvious that a household can be from a single person to a whole family of 12 people.
Then you have the subject of an IP changing. This, however, depends on the ISP. An ISP could have a system that gives every client a new IP every month. They could have a system where every client is always given a single IP, or it could just be set up so that each connection from a modem is given a new IP.
Because IP's are continually released and reassigned an IP used by a person 5 months ago could now be assigned to a modem on the other side of the world.
Sorry Gman.
[QUOTE=wingless;32376643]It's pretty common knowledge on facepunch that a single IP does not represent a person.
An IP is assigned to by ISP to a client's modem. A modem is not a person, that's pretty obvious. A single modem is commonly what's used for a household, Pretty obvious that a household can be from a single person to a whole family of 12 people.
Then you have the subject of an IP changing. This, however, depends on the ISP. An ISP could have a system that gives every client a new IP every month. They could have a system where every client is always given a single IP, or it could just be set up so that each connection from a modem is given a new IP.
Because IP's are continually released and reassigned an IP used by a person 5 months ago could now be assigned to a modem on the other side of the world.
Sorry Gman.[/QUOTE]
With regards to your first point on the family of 12 people, the person who pays for the internet connection is responsible for whatever goes over the line. That means if someone in said family of 12 downloads 10000 movies and the authorities get involved, the person who pays the bill will be held liable. This is the reason you must secure your wireless router- if someone nearby hops on and starts doing illegal activities you think you will get away with it in court if you just say "it was the guy outside in the van"?
As for IP re-assigning, they keep tabs on who has what IP at what time. Ever looked in your modem config? Oh look there, you have to essentially login to your ISP. It is very easy for them to link said login to a person and thus a person to an IP at any time
Anyone who thinks they are truly anonymous on the internet is a fool. That said, no one will know who you are if they cannot be given the excuse to know. So in that respect, you are. For anything involving authorities you are not...
Thanks for the help guys, i think this should prove my point exactly :)
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