Not sure how to feel about this. As a player I think it's empowering to have an outlet that consumers can leverage to express valid issues in a way that large developers can't just ignore.
However as a dev at a smaller company, and knowing others in the industry who have experienced this, the havoc an overly vocal minority can have on a games success, especially when it's in its infancy, can be terrifying. If your game has a relatively low number of reviews, a rating mob can easily have a disproportionate amount of influence, often times for issues that aren't necessarily valid complaints, or are beyond the scope of smaller devs.
Wow that's really unfair to Nier Automata considering it was a localization issue that has literally no bearing on the mass majority of people who would buy and play it.
But doubling the price in asia isnt nearly as excusable
I kinda think that steam should separate reviews by region. Leave a bad review because of your experience sure, but these are issues that could never affect where i'm at, and people are gonna judge anyway because of the average review.
I honestly understand that localization problem and I'd honestly be pretty pissed off too if a game got a higher price in my region.
Kinda makes me wish we had separate ratings for separate aspects. E.g. one for the game itself, one for the quality of the PC port, one for localization, etc.
Nearly all the negative reviews on Nier Automata are either this localization issue specific to Chinese people, or comments on the issues with the port (which are fixed by a community mod).
In fact most of the negative port comments will even take time to note that the game itself is great, it's just the port that has a few issues :v:
Chinese mob of angry poorfags is killing an innocent game.
They already getting crazy discounts almost similar to Russia but nope lets burry a game because we were asked to pay full price for it.
Aren't most of these negative Chinese reviews "WHY NO ON WEPLAY? WHY AVAILABLE ON STEAM?" intimidation from bots or people paid by TenCent though? I know for a fact that's the case with a few games that have a disproportionate amount of Not Recommended's from China.
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Honestly only a matter of time before TenCent decides to drop all pretenses and just goes to their friends in the Communist Party and has Steam Great-Firewall'd.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52412764]Kinda makes me wish we had separate ratings for separate aspects. E.g. one for the game itself, one for the quality of the PC port, one for localization, etc.
Nearly all the negative reviews on Nier Automata are either this localization issue specific to Chinese people, or comments on the issues with the port (which are fixed by a community mod).
In fact most of the negative port comments will even take time to note that the game itself is great, it's just the port that has a few issues :v:[/QUOTE]
I tried that community mod and running the game in fullscreen made it run like dogshit. No matter how low I dropped the settings my framerate wouldn't improve, while playing it in windowed mode it ran at mostly 60FPS, with some dips near loading areas.
I'm not really judging the port, more commenting that it isn't a complete solution for every body and the devs should really get around to fixing the game.
I wouldn't want to pay $240 for a non-English version of Nier Automata, I think these Chinese players have a point.
I almost wanted to suggest enlisting curators but [i]whoops that already happened[/i] and most of them are payed the same as these chinese anyway
real unsettling view of the videogame space as a whole
Here's some gold from today.
[IMG]http://puu.sh/wwZo5/229902aee5.jpg[/IMG]
Yup, a publisher that barely has the resources to put out an English translation to begin with totally has what it takes to do that [I]aaaaall[/I] over again for Chinese.
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Though thankfully someone informed him in Chinese that Sony owns the rights to the Chinese localization.
Why cant Steam restrict reviews to owners? Seems like an obvious choice to me
[QUOTE=CruelAddict;52413506]Why cant Steam restrict reviews to owners? Seems like an obvious choice to me[/QUOTE]
But they already do?
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;52413713]But they already do?[/QUOTE]
Sorry, my mistake, I misremembered something.
What the hell. I came into this thread because I thought it was about the incompetence of Square Enix for not providing fixes and patches for simple issues like the resolution bug [I]that are still in the game.[/I] And that people grew tired of it and bombed it because of it.
I'm very disappointed. 3 1/2 months and I still can't play it.
[QUOTE=Antimuffin;52413775]What the hell. I came into this thread because I thought it was about the incompetence of Square Enix for not providing fixes and patches for simple issues like the resolution bug [I]that are still in the game.[/I] And that people grew tired of it and bombed it because of it.
I'm very disappointed. 3 1/2 months and I still can't play it.[/QUOTE]
wasn't there a fan patch on like, day 5 that fixed that issue?
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;52413794]wasn't there a fan patch on like, day 5 that fixed that issue?[/QUOTE]
That's right, IIRC there's a mod that specifically fixes things like the resolution bug. Sucks that modders have to fix it, but at least you have solutions.
I think it was made by that one guy they did an article on, he put a simple Steam check of some sort on the mod that would fail for pirated copies.
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;52413794]wasn't there a fan patch on like, day 5 that fixed that issue?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but when I tried it it skipped through every single cutscene in the game so I immediately uninstalled it.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;52412901]I tried that community mod and running the game in fullscreen made it run like dogshit. No matter how low I dropped the settings my framerate wouldn't improve, while playing it in windowed mode it ran at mostly 60FPS, with some dips near loading areas.
I'm not really judging the port, more commenting that it isn't a complete solution for every body and the devs should really get around to fixing the game.[/QUOTE]
The mod actually helps with that. I was able to get it running at 1080p/stable 60fps at medium settings on the minimum recommended hardware thanks to that mod. Turn the lighting quality in the FAR mod settings down. The FAR mod also enables better borderless fullscreen if running in Fullscreen doesn't work well.
And yes the devs should get around to fixing the game but the mod works for most people and PC games are pretty difficult to get working with 100% compatibility for all people. Dark Souls has to be fixed with DSfix but I don't see it getting negative reviews for that :v:
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[QUOTE=Antimuffin;52413987]Yes, but when I tried it it skipped through every single cutscene in the game so I immediately uninstalled it.[/QUOTE]
Why didn't you try...adjusting the settings of the mod? Ctrl+(Shift? Can't remember)+Backspace will open the menu.
Localizations are really really hard to do without a dedicated team for it. It's really not fair to punish indie devs.
Almost makes me wish reviews were segragated by region codes.
tbh about 80% of negative reviews from Chinese that are shown to me are "Why no chinese" kind of shit, it's really annoying when I am checking the reviews of a game sometimes.
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