• Windows Defender screwed me over.
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I know my way around a computer etc., but this is just stupid. Windows Defender alerted me that it had found some malicious software on my computer,so I opened the window to see what it had found. It presented me with a short list of malicious files. I clicked one of the files in the list (as in clicked its entry on the list, not navigated to the folder and executed the file) just to see what it was. For some reason, doing that executed the file, which makes no sense since all I did was click on it within Windows Defender. Now I have a bunch of fake antivirus alerts and spyware I have to remove. Great.
Well you seem to know what you're doing
Windows Defender sucks. What else is new?
[QUOTE=Ender_Wiggin;24656595]Well you seem to know what you're doing[/QUOTE] It was hard to describe what happened so I figured I'd get a reply like this. I took a screenshot: [img]http://i.imgur.com/Xhqeu.png[/img] It's empty now but there were a few entries there before. When I clicked on one it executed the file.
Next time don't use Windows Defender. You have learned your lesson.
[QUOTE=superadamwo;24656690]It was hard to describe what happened so I figured I'd get a reply like this. I took a screenshot: [img]http://i.imgur.com/Xhqeu.png[/img] It's empty now but there were a few entries there before. When I clicked on one it executed the file.[/QUOTE] Microsoft fails, again.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;24656789]Next time don't use Windows Defender. You have learned your lesson.[/QUOTE] I never used it in the first place, I just never turned it off because it wasn't causing any problems until now. I haven't had a virus in a really long time so I never really worried about getting AV.
[QUOTE=superadamwo;24657137]I never used it in the first place, I just never turned it off because it wasn't causing any problems until now. I haven't had a virus in a really long time so I never really worried about getting AV.[/QUOTE] that's stupid. I've only had a virus once but continue to run an AV just out of habit.
[QUOTE=superadamwo;24656690]It was hard to describe what happened so I figured I'd get a reply like this. I took a screenshot: [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/Xhqeu.png[/img_thumb] It's empty now but there were a few entries there before. When I clicked on one it executed the file.[/QUOTE] Couldn't they have thought of a better name than microsoft spynet....
[QUOTE=superadamwo;24657137]I never used it in the first place, I just never turned it off because it wasn't causing any problems until now. I haven't had a virus in a really long time so I never really worried about getting AV.[/QUOTE] Wait, wait, wait, slow down. You say you didn't use anti-virus and you got a virus?
I don't run files I think might be malicious, and usually it's pretty easy to tell. Anti-virus programs are mostly a replacement for common sense.
[QUOTE=superadamwo;24657572]Anti-virus programs are mostly a replacement for common sense.[/QUOTE] no wonder you got a virus
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[QUOTE=superadamwo;24657572]I don't run files I think might be malicious, and usually it's pretty easy to tell. Anti-virus programs are mostly a replacement for common sense.[/QUOTE] So I can no longer be trusted think or make educated decisions for myself because I use an AV? Sounds logical to me :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=superadamwo;24657572]Anti-virus programs are mostly a replacement for common sense.[/QUOTE] You have a virus. So, you have no common sense?
Explain how having anti-virus software would have prevented this from happening. Once the file is executed all the av can do is help clean it up, which I can do myself. The only preventative measure it gives for something like this is scanning files looking for malicious ones and deleting them so they don't get executed, which is what windows defender did in the first place. The only reason I ran into trouble was because clicking the file in defender executed it.
comodo would have sandboxed it
antiviruses don't work the way you seem to think they do.
[QUOTE=superadamwo;24657869]Explain how having anti-virus software would have prevented this from happening. Once the file is executed all the av can do is help clean it up, which I can do myself.[u] The only preventative measure it gives for something like this is scanning files looking for malicious ones and deleting them so they don't get executed[/u], which is what windows defender did in the first place. The only reason I ran into trouble was because clicking the file in defender executed it.[/QUOTE] That is only a tiny part of how A/V works. Good A/V software will have a lot of proactive measures which will kill any virus immediately as it is being executed preventing any harm.
Yeah I know it does that as well but it wasn't really relevant to the original point of the thread, which is that windows defender caused me to execute a malicious file. I would never have executed it under normal conditions, which is why I was arguing against the need for av.
[QUOTE=superadamwo;24657869]Explain how having anti-virus software would have prevented this from happening. Once the file is executed all the av can do is help clean it up, which I can do myself. The only preventative measure it gives for something like this is scanning files looking for malicious ones and deleting them so they don't get executed, which is what windows defender did in the first place. The only reason I ran into trouble was because clicking the file in defender executed it.[/QUOTE] Actually they scan memory (well atleast the decent ones do). So when a malicious file is executed, it'll find it and stop it from executing. I like running questionable items in a sandbox before I do anything with it.
Antiviruses are like seatbelts. You're confident that you don't need them, but eventually you [B][U]WILL[/U][/B] fuck up. As is the case now.
[QUOTE=waxrock;24659301]Antiviruses are like seatbelts. You're confident that you don't need them, but eventually you [B][U]WILL[/U][/B] fuck up. As is the case now.[/QUOTE] What :iiaca:
AVG Get it
Malwarebytes and Avast! make one helluva team. :cheers:
[QUOTE=superadamwo;24657869]Explain how having anti-virus software would have prevented this from happening. Once the file is executed all the av can do is help clean it up, which I can do myself. The only preventative measure it gives for something like this is scanning files looking for malicious ones and deleting them so they don't get executed, which is what windows defender did in the first place. The only reason I ran into trouble was because clicking the file in defender executed it.[/QUOTE] Wrong. Any decent AV would stop the execution of a malicious program. You're just using a shit one.
[QUOTE=waxrock;24659301]Antiviruses are like seatbelts. You're confident that you don't need them, but eventually you [B][U]WILL[/U][/B] fuck up. As is the case now.[/QUOTE] I haven't used av in more than a year now, not a single virus yet. On my relatives computer I installed NOD32 to make up for their lack of common sense. They always manage to find a way to get their systems infected anyway. On top of that their systems have windows firewall and updates running. Me, only updates. Without common sense antivirus won't help you at all. [editline]11:59PM[/editline] I'd say AV is more like an airbag, you never ever expect to need it but it's there for the if you ever do fuck up.
You could get malware bytes, since it's an offline scanner and won't mess up your performance. [editline]11:15AM[/editline] On access AV is a pointless fad propagated by scare propaganda from AV companies. It's not worth the trouble given the chances of infection.
Eset's whole security sweet (It's NOD32 with with everything else) and Malware Bytes >all
[QUOTE=Encryption;24665936]Eset's whole security sweet (It's NOD32 with with everything else) and Malware Bytes >all[/QUOTE] That's what i'm currently using. I used to use AVG but then i discovered ESET which IMO is leaps and bounds better.
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