• It's time to bid farewell to Geralt, but not The Witcher universe
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Good for them. I never got into the game series myself, but everyone seems to like Geralt one way or another. And they're not forcing him to overstay his welcome, which has been the downfall of some titles in the past.
He's literally the protagonist of the entire series - both digital and novel. The only way they could extend it would be to switch gears to Ciri, who technically isn't a Witcher at all, since she never underwent the trial of whateveritscalled where people generally die trying to get Witcher powers. She's just a sorceress who's good with a sword and generally forgets she can cast spells
Of course Geralt's story has to meet an end eventually anyway. [sp]He dies at end of the Lady of the Lake novel, and even with the existence of a multiverse and the Word of God claim that he somehow didn't actually die, his stories do reach a definite end (so far) that are separate of the games.[/sp]
[QUOTE=RikohZX;47628503]Of course Geralt's story has to meet an end eventually anyway. [sp]He dies at end of the Lady of the Lake novel, and even with the existence of a multiverse and the Word of God claim that he somehow didn't actually die, his stories do reach a definite end (so far) that are separate of the games.[/sp][/QUOTE] Well duh, the games aren't cannon It's essentially a fan fiction that takes place afterwards, with minor retconning to allow it to work.
I'm wondering how much of cyberpunk 2077 is done. I'd love to see it at E3 this year, or this year at all.
[QUOTE=Karmah;47628336]He's literally the protagonist of the entire series - both digital and novel. The only way they could extend it would be to switch gears to Ciri, who technically isn't a Witcher at all, since she never underwent the trial of whateveritscalled where people generally die trying to get Witcher powers. She's just a sorceress who's good with a sword and generally forgets she can cast spells[/QUOTE] I think the point is that using Gerald's story they've created an expansive universe that stands on it's own two feet without him. Writers of everything, including to games have made the mistake before of ending the world their character inhabited with the character itself. Point being if the devs think The Witcher doesn't need 'the Witcher' to work they'll probably just make a whole new character, he/she doesn't even nessarcarily need to be a Witcher or anything.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;47637154]I think the point is that using Gerald's story they've created an expansive universe that stands on it's own two feet without him. Writers of everything, including to games have made the mistake before of ending the world their character inhabited with the character itself. Point being if the devs think The Witcher doesn't need 'the Witcher' to work they'll probably just make a whole new character, he/she doesn't even nessarcarily need to be a Witcher or anything.[/QUOTE] Games with the best universe make it clear that there was a cool world long before your, and there will be a just as cool world long after you're dead. (You as in the main character)
I'd like to see CDPR create a new franchise or maybe just make a sandbox game in The Witcher's universe.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;47637154]I think the point is that using Gerald's story they've created an expansive universe that stands on it's own two feet without him. Writers of everything, including to games have made the mistake before of ending the world their character inhabited with the character itself. Point being if the devs think The Witcher doesn't need 'the Witcher' to work they'll probably just make a whole new character, he/she doesn't even nessarcarily need to be a Witcher or anything.[/QUOTE] It literally doesn't stand on its own in any substantial way, as it stands. Geralt was the only guy who ever did anything - aside from the friends he made along the way in his journeys, who always seemed to tragically die - except for Dandelion. The story arc had an arch nemesis - Vilgefortz, who was like the only really bad guy ever, making a lot of the bad stuff happen throughout the books. Even the bands of sorcerers and sorceresses were only vaguely evil, just trying to shape the world in their own way. Only at the end of the books did they introduce interstellar elven mages that could travel between worlds, which seem to be the "wild hunt". Assuming that this "wild hunt" is dealt with, the only thing that would remain is just general conflict between races. That is, unless they rehash old plot elements and start making more Vilgefortz and trying to force Ciri to once again to produce mini mega mage timelord babies. Even on her own, Ciri never really did anything, she just survived. She exhausted most of her powers for like half a year by trying to save a unicorn, got captured several times, jumped through a portal to a different world and got captured there, escaped through time wizardry and portal'd back, then got captured again - coincidentally by the same people geralt was after - coincendentally the same people who held yen.
We need a Dandelion rhythm game where you try to woo the ladies with your lute playing
[QUOTE=Karmah;47649243]It literally doesn't stand on its own in any substantial way, as it stands. Geralt was the only guy who ever did anything - aside from the friends he made along the way in his journeys, who always seemed to tragically die - except for Dandelion. The story arc had an arch nemesis - Vilgefortz, who was like the only really bad guy ever, making a lot of the bad stuff happen throughout the books. Even the bands of sorcerers and sorceresses were only vaguely evil, just trying to shape the world in their own way. Only at the end of the books did they introduce interstellar elven mages that could travel between worlds, which seem to be the "wild hunt". Assuming that this "wild hunt" is dealt with, the only thing that would remain is just general conflict between races. That is, unless they rehash old plot elements and start making more Vilgefortz and trying to force Ciri to once again to produce mini mega mage timelord babies. Even on her own, Ciri never really did anything, she just survived. She exhausted most of her powers for like half a year by trying to save a unicorn, got captured several times, jumped through a portal to a different world and got captured there, escaped through time wizardry and portal'd back, then got captured again - coincidentally by the same people geralt was after - coincendentally the same people who held yen.[/QUOTE] I didn't say I think the world stands on its own two feet but the writers clearly think it do. Personally nothing really jumps out as cool in the Witcher world to me.
[QUOTE=Karmah;47649243]It literally doesn't stand on its own in any substantial way, as it stands. Geralt was the only guy who ever did anything - aside from the friends he made along the way in his journeys, who always seemed to tragically die - except for Dandelion. The story arc had an arch nemesis - Vilgefortz, who was like the only really bad guy ever, making a lot of the bad stuff happen throughout the books. Even the bands of sorcerers and sorceresses were only vaguely evil, just trying to shape the world in their own way. Only at the end of the books did they introduce interstellar elven mages that could travel between worlds, which seem to be the "wild hunt". Assuming that this "wild hunt" is dealt with, the only thing that would remain is just general conflict between races. That is, unless they rehash old plot elements and start making more Vilgefortz and trying to force Ciri to once again to produce mini mega mage timelord babies. Even on her own, Ciri never really did anything, she just survived. She exhausted most of her powers for like half a year by trying to save a unicorn, got captured several times, jumped through a portal to a different world and got captured there, escaped through time wizardry and portal'd back, then got captured again - coincidentally by the same people geralt was after - coincendentally the same people who held yen.[/QUOTE] To be fair, I'd actually buy a game about Geralt's story in the books, even if I know what was in there.
I think the lack of specificity with regards to the world beyond Geralt kind of lends itself to CDPR expanding the universe. The world doesn't even have a name, and there's whole lands not even mapped out. They could literally make it up as they go. I mean like has been said in this thread, the games are basically a fan fiction/alternate universe. So skies the limit, I think an open-world game were you play as some made up person, Witcher or not, could definitely work.
[QUOTE=Srillo;47650757]I think the lack of specificity with regards to the world beyond Geralt kind of lends itself to CDPR expanding the universe. The world doesn't even have a name, and there's whole lands not even mapped out. They could literally make it up as they go. I mean like has been said in this thread, the games are basically a fan fiction/alternate universe. So skies the limit, I think an open-world game were you play as some made up person, Witcher or not, could definitely work.[/QUOTE] Sure, I guess there is definitely room to expand upon if they want to start developing completely original content. For instance the whole eastern half of the world and the Zerrikanians. The next obvious character to play would be Ciri. Yen or Triss both wouldn't work as they are just regular mages - and not even really powerful ones. Also, I'm pretty sure that the world is just called Earth, the writer of the book let that slip at one point, I think in the second last or last book. I believe this because afaik that caught me off guard when reading. However it could have also just been a translation issue from just saying "world".
[QUOTE=Dr.C;47649252]We need a Dandelion rhythm game where you try to woo the ladies with your lute playing[/QUOTE] Or a sexy harmonica
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