• Graphics Card upgrade
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Alright, I've already ordered the screen and just so you're clear it's this one and I'm not sending it back: [url]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176662[/url] So I'm just concerned about the Graphics Card. I'm looking at what sort of GPU I should get, I got around £200 to spend as I'm in the UK, maybe a Nvidia GTX 285. Will there be problems running it such as bottlenecking or should I be looking at a different card? Current Specs: RAM: 4096MB (4GB) Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7300 @ 2.66GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.7GHz (going to overclock very soon!) Motherboard: GA-EP35-DS3L PSU: 1000W (1KW) Case: NZXT Tempest Thanks in advance!
why did you get a 1000w psu.. what brand and model is it
Got Ninja'd. Get what combine posted. [quote][url]http://www.dabs.com/products/sapphir...-dvi-662D.html[/url][/quote]
[url]http://www.dabs.com/products/sapphire-technology-ati-radeon-5850-hd-725mhz-1gb-pci-express-dvi-662D.html[/url]
[QUOTE=CombineGuru;18762871]why did you get a 1000w psu.. what brand and model is it[/QUOTE] It's an OCZ one and I got it as it was on sale at the time limited time offer and I was building a PC at the time
[QUOTE=CombineGuru;18762886][url]http://www.dabs.com/products/sapphire-technology-ati-radeon-5850-hd-725mhz-1gb-pci-express-dvi-662D.html[/url][/QUOTE] This.
[QUOTE=ghostofme;18765364]This.[/QUOTE] [/thread]
Will it run well with my current specs though?
[QUOTE=Marler;18770395]Will it run well with my current specs though?[/QUOTE] yes. You said you were overclocking which will help a lot.
Thanks for the help. It seems I should go for the ATI 5850 over the Nvidia GTX 285
Saw this in a thread with the GTX 285 Vs the ATI 5850. Hope it helps Having a GTX 295, 5870, 2x 275 in both single and sli configs, it's obvious to me that it (5850) just not worth it (over the 285). People look at reviews and opinions from different owners to them they think new tech is the way to go. However it isn't so. In reality when you're actually using these card there are various advantages/disadvantages to each of them. With that in mind the GTX 285 (I would say 275 is best) is what people should buy instead of the 5850. I've been reading reviews in many different websites. Even though the 5850 pulls away in the majority of the review sites (by 0-10fps), a lot of review sites are biased and are not accurate. (Some say one card is faster in one test, where as the other site says it's slower.) If the prices were the same (say each were 300 usd), then go for the 5850. Even then I'd recommend you making an informed decision based on your budget and needs, instead of (no offense) fan boys voicing their opinion. And no offense, but I see most of the people here do not have the new 5800 cards on their sig rigs. Some basic reasons why GTX 285/275 (nvidia) is best: - better driver support - better tweaking ability - nvidia makes the game look better (noticeably better) - GTX 285 has better scaling in Sli - 5800's has worse AA selection in some games - in particle heavy games, the 5870 lags and chugs (thus I assume 5850 would as well) - 5800's run hotter, and louder - it's easier to find a 285/275, for much less than 5850s Just know that you'll be spending a premium on the 5850 that doesn't match the value given back by the improvement in performance. Source: [url]http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/616255-get-xmas-gtx285-ati-5850-a-2.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;18770813]Saw this in a thread with the GTX 285 Vs the ATI 5850. Hope it helps Having a GTX 295, 5870, 2x 275 in both single and sli configs, it's obvious to me that it (5850) just not worth it (over the 285). People look at reviews and opinions from different owners to them they think new tech is the way to go. However it isn't so. In reality when you're actually using these card there are various advantages/disadvantages to each of them. With that in mind the GTX 285 (I would say 275 is best) is what people should buy instead of the 5850. I've been reading reviews in many different websites. Even though the 5850 pulls away in the majority of the review sites (by 0-10fps), a lot of review sites are biased and are not accurate. (Some say one card is faster in one test, where as the other site says it's slower.) If the prices were the same (say each were 300 usd), then go for the 5850. Even then I'd recommend you making an informed decision based on your budget and needs, instead of (no offense) fan boys voicing their opinion. And no offense, but I see most of the people here do not have the new 5800 cards on their sig rigs. Some basic reasons why GTX 285/275 (nvidia) is best: - better driver support - better tweaking ability - nvidia makes the game look better (noticeably better) - GTX 285 has better scaling in Sli - 5800's has worse AA selection in some games - in particle heavy games, the 5870 lags and chugs (thus I assume 5850 would as well) - 5800's run hotter, and louder - it's easier to find a 285/275, for much less than 5850s Just know that you'll be spending a premium on the 5850 that doesn't match the value given back by the improvement in performance. Source: [url]http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/616255-get-xmas-gtx285-ati-5850-a-2.html[/url][/QUOTE] Ahhhh the fanboyish it burns.
although the ATI 5850 is better priced then the GTX 285
[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;18771375]although the ATI 5850 is better priced then the GTX 285[/QUOTE] Depends on the branding/specs of the card
I'm an nVidia guy and I told my friend to get the 5850 for his build. Shit is nice and cheap
[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;18770813]Saw this in a thread with the GTX 285 Vs the ATI 5850. Hope it helps Having a GTX 295, 5870, 2x 275 in both single and sli configs, it's obvious to me that it (5850) just not worth it (over the 285). People look at reviews and opinions from different owners to them they think new tech is the way to go. However it isn't so. In reality when you're actually using these card there are various advantages/disadvantages to each of them. With that in mind the GTX 285 (I would say 275 is best) is what people should buy instead of the 5850. I've been reading reviews in many different websites. Even though the 5850 pulls away in the majority of the review sites (by 0-10fps), a lot of review sites are biased and are not accurate. (Some say one card is faster in one test, where as the other site says it's slower.) If the prices were the same (say each were 300 usd), then go for the 5850. Even then I'd recommend you making an informed decision based on your budget and needs, instead of (no offense) fan boys voicing their opinion. And no offense, but I see most of the people here do not have the new 5800 cards on their sig rigs. Some basic reasons why GTX 285/275 (nvidia) is best: - better driver support - better tweaking ability - nvidia makes the game look better (noticeably better) - GTX 285 has better scaling in Sli - 5800's has worse AA selection in some games - in particle heavy games, the 5870 lags and chugs (thus I assume 5850 would as well) - 5800's run hotter, and louder - it's easier to find a 285/275, for much less than 5850s Just know that you'll be spending a premium on the 5850 that doesn't match the value given back by the improvement in performance. Source: [url]http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/616255-get-xmas-gtx285-ati-5850-a-2.html[/url][/QUOTE] Holy biased fanboys batman! That's the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen. Do you work for nVidia?
[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;18770813]Saw this in a thread with the GTX 285 Vs the ATI 5850. Hope it helps Having a GTX 295, 5870, 2x 275 in both single and sli configs, it's obvious to me that it (5850) just not worth it (over the 285). People look at reviews and opinions from different owners to them they think new tech is the way to go. However it isn't so. In reality when you're actually using these card there are various advantages/disadvantages to each of them. With that in mind the GTX 285 (I would say 275 is best) is what people should buy instead of the 5850. I've been reading reviews in many different websites. Even though the 5850 pulls away in the majority of the review sites (by 0-10fps), a lot of review sites are biased and are not accurate. (Some say one card is faster in one test, where as the other site says it's slower.) If the prices were the same (say each were 300 usd), then go for the 5850. Even then I'd recommend you making an informed decision based on your budget and needs, instead of (no offense) fan boys voicing their opinion. And no offense, but I see most of the people here do not have the new 5800 cards on their sig rigs. Some basic reasons why GTX 285/275 (nvidia) is best: - better driver support - better tweaking ability - [b]nvidia makes the game look better (noticeably better)[/b] - GTX 285 has better scaling in Sli - [b]5800's has worse AA selection in some games[/b] - [b]in particle heavy games, the 5870 lags and chugs (thus I assume 5850 would as well)[/b] - 5800's run hotter, and louder - it's easier to find a 285/275, for much less than 5850 Just know that you'll be spending a premium on the 5850 that doesn't match the value given back by the improvement in performance. Source: [url]http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/616255-get-xmas-gtx285-ati-5850-a-2.html[/url][/QUOTE] What. [editline]04:27PM[/editline] So your cited source is another NVidia fanboy who posts graphs and pretends he knows what he talking about? I mean, I know fuck all about graphics card, but there's just too much bullshit there to miss.
Oh this is good from a guy supporting the gtx 285 from what Cabbalistic posted. [img]http://www.overclock.net/attachments/graphics-cards-general/130880d1259366415-get-xmas-gtx285-ati-5850-bench.jpg[/img] [quote]Having a GTX 295, 5870, 2x 275 in both single and sli configs, it's obvious to me that it (5850) just not worth it (over the 285). People look at reviews and opinions from different owners to them they think new tech is the way to go. However it isn't so. In reality when you're actually using these card there are various advantages/disadvantages to each of them. With that in mind the GTX 285 (I would say 275 is best) is what people should buy instead of the 5850. I've been reading reviews in many different websites. Even though the 5850 pulls away in the majority of the review sites (by 0-10fps), a lot of review sites are biased and are not accurate. (Some say one card is faster in one test, where as the other site says it's slower.) If the prices were the same (say each were 300 usd), then go for the 5850. Even then I'd recommend you making an informed decision based on your budget and needs, instead of (no offense) fan boys voicing their opinion. And no offense, but I see most of the people here do not have the new 5800 cards on their sig rigs. Some basic reasons why GTX 285/275 (nvidia) is best: - better driver support - better tweaking ability - [b]nvidia makes the game look better (noticeably better)[/b] - GTX 285 has better scaling in Sli - [b]5800's has worse AA selection in some games[/b] - in particle heavy games, the 5870 lags and chugs (thus I assume 5850 would as well) - [b]5800's run hotter, and louder[/b] - it's easier to find a 285/275, for much less than 5850s Just know that you'll be spending a premium on the 5850 that doesn't match the value given back by the improvement in performance. [/quote] I bolded my favorites.
[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;18770813]Saw this in a thread with the GTX 285 Vs the ATI 5850. Hope it helps Having a GTX 295, 5870, 2x 275 in both single and sli configs, it's obvious to me that it (5850) just not worth it (over the 285). People look at reviews and opinions from different owners to them they think new tech is the way to go. However it isn't so. In reality when you're actually using these card there are various advantages/disadvantages to each of them. With that in mind the GTX 285 (I would say 275 is best) is what people should buy instead of the 5850. I've been reading reviews in many different websites. Even though the 5850 pulls away in the majority of the review sites (by 0-10fps), a lot of review sites are biased and are not accurate. (Some say one card is faster in one test, where as the other site says it's slower.) If the prices were the same (say each were 300 usd), then go for the 5850. Even then I'd recommend you making an informed decision based on your budget and needs, instead of (no offense) fan boys voicing their opinion. And no offense, but I see most of the people here do not have the new 5800 cards on their sig rigs. Some basic reasons why GTX 285/275 (nvidia) is best: - better driver support - better tweaking ability - nvidia makes the game look better (noticeably better) - GTX 285 has better scaling in Sli - 5800's has worse AA selection in some games - in particle heavy games, the 5870 lags and chugs (thus I assume 5850 would as well) - 5800's run hotter, and louder - it's easier to find a 285/275, for much less than 5850s Just know that you'll be spending a premium on the 5850 that doesn't match the value given back by the improvement in performance. Source: [url]http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/616255-get-xmas-gtx285-ati-5850-a-2.html[/url][/QUOTE] Cause you know everything and have a 5000 series card along with a 200 series. How do you tell if a site is biased? The benchmarks don't lie. [img]http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/original/2009/10/HD5k-CF-Crysis-Warhead-1280.png[/img] 5870 Vs. GTX 285 5850 rules supreme.
cool it guys, I just posted something I found! I agree 5850 is one to go for, due to price
[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;18780012]cool it guys, I just posted something I found! I agree 5850 is one to go for, due to price[/QUOTE] and performance and everything about it, not just price
looking at this one: [url]http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-ati-radeon-5850-hd-1gb-pci-express-2-0-hdmi-68PN.html?q=ATI%205850[/url] looks like it comes with Dirt 2, that would be a bonus :D
[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;18770813]Saw this in a thread with the GTX 285 Vs the ATI 5850. Hope it helps Having a GTX 295, 5870, 2x 275 in both single and sli configs, it's obvious to me that it (5850) just not worth it (over the 285). People look at reviews and opinions from different owners to them they think new tech is the way to go. However it isn't so. In reality when you're actually using these card there are various advantages/disadvantages to each of them. With that in mind the GTX 285 (I would say 275 is best) is what people should buy instead of the 5850. I've been reading reviews in many different websites. Even though the 5850 pulls away in the majority of the review sites (by 0-10fps), a lot of review sites are biased and are not accurate. (Some say one card is faster in one test, where as the other site says it's slower.) If the prices were the same (say each were 300 usd), then go for the 5850. Even then I'd recommend you making an informed decision based on your budget and needs, instead of (no offense) fan boys voicing their opinion. And no offense, but I see most of the people here do not have the new 5800 cards on their sig rigs. Some basic reasons why GTX 285/275 (nvidia) is best: - better driver support - better tweaking ability - nvidia makes the game look better (noticeably better) - GTX 285 has better scaling in Sli - 5800's has worse AA selection in some games - in particle heavy games, the 5870 lags and chugs (thus I assume 5850 would as well) - 5800's run hotter, and louder - it's easier to find a 285/275, for much less than 5850s Just know that you'll be spending a premium on the 5850 that doesn't match the value given back by the improvement in performance. Source: [url]http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/616255-get-xmas-gtx285-ati-5850-a-2.html[/url][/QUOTE] Fanboy of the year award.
[QUOTE=Marler;18780187]looking at this one: [url]http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-ati-radeon-5850-hd-1gb-pci-express-2-0-hdmi-68PN.html?q=ATI%205850[/url] looks like it comes with Dirt 2, that would be a bonus :D[/QUOTE] Every 5 series card does, game is pretty epic though. Makes you feel like watching an action/racing movie. As well, they got a great selection of music.
[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;18780012]cool it guys, I just posted something I found! I agree 5850 is one to go for, due to price[/QUOTE] By that logic i recommend a X1200!
Current Specs: RAM: 4096MB (4GB) Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7300 @ 2.66GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.7GHz (going to overclock very soon!) Motherboard: GA-EP35-DS3L PSU: 1000W (1KW) Case: NZXT Tempest Current GPU: Nvidia 9800GT Will this run on 1920 x 1080 or is it essential to upgrade the card
Are the GTX295's any good? I was thinking of getting a couple of those.
You should probably go with a couple of 5870's instead.
[QUOTE=Spartex;18927404]Are the GTX295's any good? I was thinking of getting a couple of those.[/QUOTE] Don't. ATI is currently the best for price:performance. Like above user stated, get two 5870s instead.
Current Specs: RAM: 4096MB (4GB) Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7300 @ 2.66GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.7GHz (going to overclock very soon!) Motherboard: GA-EP35-DS3L PSU: 1000W (1KW) Case: NZXT Tempest Current GPU: Nvidia 9800GT Will this run on 1920 x 1080 or is it essential to upgrade the card?
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