• John Carmack: "Oculus uses zero lines of code that I wrote while under contract to Zenimax."
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[quote]“We intend to vigorously defend Oculus and its investors to the fullest extent,” the VR company told Engadget.[/quote] Yeah, so what about the real investors? ALA Kickstarter backers. Facebook's acquisition lowered my respect, excitement and admiration of Oculus by at least 3/4. Now, VR is a bit meh, whereas before it was fucking incredible. I think the vast majority of Kickstarter backers felt the same way. And yes, it is because I really dislike Facebook. I dislike everything about it and it's business practices, and I think working with them shows a lack of integrity and a huge lack of respect for the real investors.
[QUOTE=Hardsurface;44702130]Yeah, so what about the real investors? ALA Kickstarter backers. Facebook's acquisition lowered my respect, excitement and admiration of Oculus by at least 3/4. Now, VR is a bit meh, whereas before it was fucking incredible. I think the vast majority of Kickstarter backers felt the same way. And yes, it is because I really dislike Facebook. I dislike everything about it and it's business practices, and I think working with them shows a lack of integrity and a huge lack of respect for the real investors.[/QUOTE] What? The Kickstarter brought in 2.4M, and that was for building and shipping the dev kits. You're not building a company out of that. Even before Facebook there were early investor rounds in which Oculus got like 100M in investments, and were they technically lost their independence. Kickstarter backers had an emotional investment at most.
[QUOTE=Hardsurface;44702130] And yes, it is because I really dislike Facebook. I dislike everything about it and it's business practices, and I think working with them shows a lack of integrity and a huge lack of respect for the real investors.[/QUOTE] If you had so little faith in the developers in the first place why should they cater to your easily destroyed whims? Its not like business acquisitions and investments are done to spite specific people, you're taking it far more personally than this really goes. Imagine waking up and having some rich dude go "Hey, I like your product so here's $2,000,000,000 if you guys continue to work on it under my already successful company." What benefits would they get from denying that? Less posts saying they lack respect? That's a poor trade off man.
[QUOTE=Hardsurface;44702130]Yeah, so what about the real investors? ALA Kickstarter backers. Facebook's acquisition lowered my respect, excitement and admiration of Oculus by at least 3/4. Now, VR is a bit meh, whereas before it was fucking incredible. I think the vast majority of Kickstarter backers felt the same way. And yes, it is because I really dislike Facebook. I dislike everything about it and it's business practices, and I think working with them shows a lack of integrity and a huge lack of respect for the real investors.[/QUOTE] Doesn't Kickstarter tell you in, like, three places "WARNING! THIS IS NOT INVESTMENT! INVESTMENT ON THIS SCALE IS ILLEGAL!" People donated to the Kickstarter, and Oculus gave them their donor rewards. Their obligation to donors is now through.
[quote]Zenimax argued in their claim that only Carmack’s work with their tech allowed Palmer Luckey to “transform his garage-based pipe dream into a working reality”.[/quote] Go eat a dick Zenimax it was a hit long before Carmack.
[QUOTE=Hardsurface;44702130]Yeah, so what about the real investors? ALA Kickstarter backers. Facebook's acquisition lowered my respect, excitement and admiration of Oculus by at least 3/4. Now, VR is a bit meh, whereas before it was fucking incredible. I think the vast majority of Kickstarter backers felt the same way. And yes, it is because I really dislike Facebook. I dislike everything about it and it's business practices, and I think working with them shows a lack of integrity and a huge lack of respect for the real investors.[/QUOTE] pull that stick out your arse jesus christ, just because you backed it on kickstarter doesn't make you the fucking catalyst for their success. facebook wanted to give them money, why would they say no. welcome to business dipshit
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;44702553]Doesn't Kickstarter tell you in, like, three places "WARNING! THIS IS NOT INVESTMENT! INVESTMENT ON THIS SCALE IS ILLEGAL!" People donated to the Kickstarter, and Oculus gave them their donor rewards. Their obligation to donors is now through.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure their obligations are still there, to the extent of making the product have the features which are listed on the kickstarter. Take for example Godus, completely back flipped on many of the game's core features which were listed on the kickstarter, and now a lot of people are claiming refunds.
I thought Kickstarter was for donating not investing.
I'm getting major deja-vu's after reading this article... I felt that Zenimax has done this before, if I remember right, last year in November/December?
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