• Opinions on these parts?
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Hey there, I'm planning on building a new PC as I have not had a good PC for quite some time now. These are the parts I am thinking of getting: Fractal Design Define R4 Chassis Corsair CX 750 modular ASUS Z87-A ATX Intel Core i7 4770K Kingston HyperX 8GB Samsung 840 PRO 256GB Seagate Barracuda 2TB Gigabyte Geforce GTX 770 Samsung DVD±R/RW/RAM DL I am mostly concerned about the necessity of an SSD. I have been told by a good friend that it is not needed, but I would like some other opinions as well. Price is not an issue for me, but I simply wanted to ask the professionals here if these parts are a good investment or if there are any parts that would benefit from being replaced. Thank you. :smile:
an explanation as to what this PC is going to be used for would help tremendously. SSDs are NOT a necessity, though, they out-perform any HDD by a lot minus storage. seeing as how price is not an issue for you, i would definitely consider keeping the SSD for the build. however, not sure if you would need a PRO series samsung SSD, unless you really need the performance from that or the EVO series. (in terms of higher sequential writes and higher random IOPs) then again, price isn't an issue, so shooting for the best doesn't hurt either. not sure if you really need an optical drive either. you can create a boot-drive for your OS, and install it using that. however, that's just assuming your OS is the only reason why you have that in your build to begin with. i'd like to say a 750w psu may be a bit overkill for this, but then again, i'm not sure if you plan on adding more to your build down the road. also, unless you're getting a good deal on a modular psu opposed to a semi-modular psu, i'd steer clear, especially if you're using an ATX form-factor. the mobo + cpu may need to be re-thought. the Z87 chipset offers overclocking, as do K series processors, but do you plan on overclocking? if that's the case, then stick with a Z87 chipset and K series processor. though, including an i7 may not be necessary, seeing as how the i7 utilizes hyper-threading, and you may not end up needing that, especially for just gaming. (assuming you'll just primarily be gaming with this build) i noticed there wasn't really an after-market cooling solution included with your build, and if you're going to be overclocking, that's going to become a necessity. the stock intel cpu cooler isn't really ideal for handling heat put-off by your OC'ed cpu. you could go the less expensive route, and invest into a Hyper 212 EVO which is a pretty popular cooler, air based though. if you'd like a water based solution, you could go with an AiO from corsair or NZXT, the hydro series has a great reputation, along with the kraken series. much more pricy, but much more effective. as for your HDD itself, not a huge fan of Seagate, but there's not really an issue with a Seagate drive. instead of shooting for a 2tb, i'd go with two separate 1tb drives, and run them in RAID 0 or 1 for increased performance or safety. i have the GPU you're going for, and the tri-cooler or whatever the hell this thing uses in extremely effective, however, i'd suggest something from EVGA, like their superclocked edition 770. much higher boost clock right out of the box, if you don't want to deal with the hassle of finding a nice overclock for your card. their Precision X software also allows you to manually set the fan-speed of the card. hope this was helpful, i'm sure others will chip in too.
[QUOTE=Slippery-Q;44857554]an explanation as to what this PC is going to be used for would help tremendously. SSDs are NOT a necessity, though, they out-perform any HDD by a lot minus storage. seeing as how price is not an issue for you, i would definitely consider keeping the SSD for the build. however, not sure if you would need a PRO series samsung SSD, unless you really need the performance from that or the EVO series. (in terms of higher sequential writes and higher random IOPs) then again, price isn't an issue, so shooting for the best doesn't hurt either. not sure if you really need an optical drive either. you can create a boot-drive for your OS, and install it using that. however, that's just assuming your OS is the only reason why you have that in your build to begin with. i'd like to say a 750w psu may be a bit overkill for this, but then again, i'm not sure if you plan on adding more to your build down the road. also, unless you're getting a good deal on a modular psu opposed to a semi-modular psu, i'd steer clear, especially if you're using an ATX form-factor. the mobo + cpu may need to be re-thought. the Z87 chipset offers overclocking, as do K series processors, but do you plan on overclocking? if that's the case, then stick with a Z87 chipset and K series processor. though, including an i7 may not be necessary, seeing as how the i7 utilizes hyper-threading, and you may not end up needing that, especially for just gaming. (assuming you'll just primarily be gaming with this build) i noticed there wasn't really an after-market cooling solution included with your build, and if you're going to be overclocking, that's going to become a necessity. the stock intel cpu cooler isn't really ideal for handling heat put-off by your OC'ed cpu. you could go the less expensive route, and invest into a Hyper 212 EVO which is a pretty popular cooler, air based though. if you'd like a water based solution, you could go with an AiO from corsair or NZXT, the hydro series has a great reputation, along with the kraken series. much more pricy, but much more effective. as for your HDD itself, not a huge fan of Seagate, but there's not really an issue with a Seagate drive. instead of shooting for a 2tb, i'd go with two separate 1tb drives, and run them in RAID 0 or 1 for increased performance or safety. i have the GPU you're going for, and the tri-cooler or whatever the hell this thing uses in extremely effective, however, i'd suggest something from EVGA, like their superclocked edition 770. much higher boost clock right out of the box, if you don't want to deal with the hassle of finding a nice overclock for your card. their Precision X software also allows you to manually set the fan-speed of the card. hope this was helpful, i'm sure others will chip in too.[/QUOTE] Thank you so much for the information. I'm overwhelmed and glad. :smile: To be honest, I don't know too much about computer parts and such. And I'll be honest, once again. The site where I got the specs from is part of a bundle that isn't pre-built which lets you build it yourself. I mostly decided to choose this because I got a lack of understanding. Figured this would teach me. It says that the computer is good for gaming and advanced programs. And I do tend to do a lot of recording, 3D modeling and video editing. Oh, and while price certainly isn't an "issue", I'm not planning on going over 15 thousand crowns, which is around 1664 Euro or 2283 USD. And I don't believe I will overclock anything.
[QUOTE=Ax3l;44857304]Hey there, I'm planning on building a new PC as I have not had a good PC for quite some time now. These are the parts I am thinking of getting: Fractal Design Define R4 Chassis Corsair CX 750 modular ASUS Z87-A ATX Intel Core i7 4770K Kingston HyperX 8GB Samsung 840 PRO 256GB Seagate Barracuda 2TB Gigabyte Geforce GTX 770 Samsung DVD±R/RW/RAM DL I am mostly concerned about the necessity of an SSD. I have been told by a good friend that it is not needed, but I would like some other opinions as well. Price is not an issue for me, but I simply wanted to ask the professionals here if these parts are a good investment or if there are any parts that would benefit from being replaced. Thank you. :smile:[/QUOTE] Change that Z87 Board for a new Z97.
Overall very solid. I second what was said about the i7 though. If you're just gaming, get the 4670k. On average it is actually superior for gaming. Swap the board up to a z97. Samsung is king of SSD's, so hold onto that one, as well as Seagate is the best price/performance by far for desktop drives.
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770]Intel Core i7-4770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($309.99 @ Newegg) [b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h80i]Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler[/url] ($79.99 @ Newegg) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h87mpro4]ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($82.99 @ Newegg) [b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-997069s]Mushkin Stealth 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($154.99 @ Newegg) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te250lw]Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] ($189.78 @ Newegg) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1002faex]Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1002faex]Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42776kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card[/url] ($350.91 @ Newegg) [b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc9011028ww]Corsair 350D MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($87.98 @ Newegg) [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-rm650]Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($119.99 @ Newegg) [b]Wireless Network Adapter:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-wireless-network-card-rnxn250pce]Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter[/url] ($18.99 @ Newegg) [b]Total:[/b] $1395.61 threw something together for you, more as a blue print to work off of, or for others who want to assist with this. decided to head in the route of micro-atx as the form factor. CPU: i7, you said you do edit videos and other things like that frequently. hyper-threading can assist in stuff like that. Cooler: a bit over-kill, but plenty of room for one of these in the budget. also, the fact that this is a mATX ff, i think displacing heat will be a lot easier in such a cramped area. i believe the i7 runs pretty hot too. MOBO: ASRock makes nice boards imo, H87 is a great chipset if you're not over-clocking, and the board isn't pounded with features that you don't need. only cons imo are Crossfire only, and RAM only supported up to 1600mhz. RAM: a kit of 2x8, 16gb seems like a lot, but it leaves you room to expand in the future, just in case. 1600mhz of course, due to limitations by the motherboard. however, the board does support four-slots. HDDs: two 1tb WD Black (can be Blue also) because i prefer WD to Seagate, but that's just me, feel free to change it up. of course, two 1tb HDDs because RAID 0 or 1 and yada yada. SSD: 250gb from the EVO series, slap your favorite programs, games, and OS onto this. GPU: explained why i think the EVGA Superclocked 770 is better earlier. PSU: i know i expressed distaste for fully-modular PSUs earlier, but in a mATX form-factor, i think it serves its purpose well. on top of that, gold certified, and 650w. should have no issues powering this bad boy. you can also buy custom-sleeved cables, and make it that much easier to work with. WNA: because this motherboard doesn't have integrated wifi, and i only really see that on mITX boards. Case: thought the features for this case were neat-o. take a gander, if it doesn't suit your fancy, go pick another. i'm sure others will review this, and add or take away what they see fit. oh, also, you have like almost a grand at your disposal to buy a monitor(s), headset, mouse, keyboard, blah blah if you already haven't.
And do not raid 2 1tb drives. Putting drives in RAID increases the chance of a failure. The only time RAID is recommended is when it is mission critical and you need to be up ASAP in case of a failure. It also uses up CPU power if you're using on board raid, and a dedicated card is extremely expensive. [editline]20th May 2014[/editline] And just so you know, the stock OC on the Gigabyte 770 is greater that the EVGA, as well as the cooler on the Gigabyte is superior.
Oh wow. Thank you all for the help. I appreciate it a bunch. This will be very useful. I'll look into the parts as well. :smile:
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