This is what I have so far:
3.50Ghz Intel Core i7-3770K Processor
ASRock LGA 1155 Z77 Extreme 4
Corsair Vengence 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
Seagate Barracuda 500 GB 7200RPM SATA
Corsair Professional Series HX 850
Obsidian Series 650D
You might notice no graphics card, but I'll buy that later on to make the cost [I]seem smaller. [/I]Also, no disc reader cause most programs you can download from the internet these days and I can always buy one later on.
The cpu is ivy bridge I believe, not the newer haswell. From what I've seen on other forums, haswell isn't worth the jump yet. Opinions?
I don't plan on future proofing, but do you think this is a viable setup for gaming next 5-7 years? I get that the machine will become outdated, but I don't want it to be outdated in just a few months or a year.
All of these items are sitting in my Amazon cart and comes out to about $900 dollars. I could always hunt around other retailers for lower prices.
So what do you think of this as gaming build, disregarding the gpu? Anything I'm missing?
well it depends what GPU you plan on getting for me to give you any advice, all I can tell you right now is that PSU is extremely overkill no matter what GPU you'll ever end up getting.
What is your budget? I know you say what you have is 900 dollars, but how far would you be willing to stretch it.
Also Haswell isn't worth a jump FROM an Ivy Bridge to an EQUIVALENT Haswell, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't purchase Haswell. They are virtually the same price for a slight performance upgrade and power consumption/heat output reduction. Also, you should probably go for an i5 since the main difference between the i7 and i5 is hyper-threading (2 threads per core) and gaming doesn't reap much benefits from this.
What is your budget for a graphics card? Is the cost of this build going to impact upon it?
[QUOTE=cqbcat;41003881]I'll buy that later on to make the cost [I]seem smaller. [/I][/QUOTE]
Just...why...
The graphics card is the most important thing to the entire build!
If he can't afford the GPU right now it's actually a valid option, the integrated GPU on haswell is good enough to run most games on medium or low until he gets the GPU later on when he can afford it.
But if it's just that you can't afford it in general, You might want to think about getting a 4670k instead of a 4770k, unless you have a specific reason for hyper-threading support.
[QUOTE=flayne;41005091]What is your budget? I know you say what you have is 900 dollars, but how far would you be willing to stretch it.
Also Haswell isn't worth a jump FROM an Ivy Bridge to an EQUIVALENT Haswell, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't purchase Haswell. They are virtually the same price for a slight performance upgrade and power consumption/heat output reduction. Also, you should probably go for an i5 since the main difference between the i7 and i5 is hyper-threading (2 threads per core) and gaming doesn't reap much benefits from this.
What is your budget for a graphics card? Is the cost of this build going to impact upon it?
Just...why...
The graphics card is the most important thing to the entire build![/QUOTE]
It makes sense to me to make the cost seem smaller. But even without a dedicated graphics card, I'll be happy just to get the machine running.
As for graphics card, I'm thinking GTX 670 or 680. Alternatively, I might just get a lower end model and SLI it.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;41009966]It makes sense to me to make the cost seem smaller. But even without a dedicated graphics card, I'll be happy just to get the machine running.
As for graphics card, I'm thinking GTX 670 or 680. Alternatively, I might just get a lower end model and SLI it.[/QUOTE]
Go for the better single card. It is always a better option versus equivalent or near equivalent SLI, especially since eventually you can actually SLI that better card if you want to.
Although I'd recommend the 770 over the 680. The 770 is cheaper, newer, and they have about the same specifications, except the 680 has 2 extra GB of ram (which is unnecessary considering you will probably never pass 2 GB just gaming in the near future).
Afaik both the 770 and 680 have 2GB and 4GB models, i'd say go for the 4GB 770 because it's better futureproofing(and with the newer consoles coming out soon, games WILL begin to use more vram)
[QUOTE=flayne;41010771]Go for the better single card. It is always a better option versus equivalent or near equivalent SLI, especially since eventually you can actually SLI that better card if you want to.
Although I'd recommend the 770 over the 680. The 770 is cheaper, newer, and they have about the same specifications, except the 680 has 2 extra GB of ram (which is unnecessary considering you will probably never pass 2 GB just gaming in the near future).[/QUOTE]
Oh shit, that is interesting. I didn't even know Nvidia had new cards out. I thought they were still busy with that 660 ti stuff. I'll have to check these new cards out.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;41016961]Oh shit, that is interesting. I didn't even know Nvidia had new cards out. I thought they were still busy with that 660 ti stuff. I'll have to check these new cards out.[/QUOTE]
Yeah the new generation is out (so far only the 770 and 780) and the GTX 760 is coming soon. There worth a buy for a high end build if you ask me.
How do you guys feel about AMD's APU, not accounting for it's integrated graphics, but as a general CPU?
I mean would they be good for gaming if they were paired with a decent discrete graphics cards?
[QUOTE=cqbcat;41072834]How do you guys feel about AMD's APU, not accounting for it's integrated graphics, but as a general CPU?
I mean would they be good for gaming if they were paired with a decent discrete graphics cards?[/QUOTE]
AMD CPU's aren't really good for gaming at all.
They're okay for cheap builds that you aren't dumping more than around $350-400 dollars on, and never plan to upgrade.
But if you're buying a dedicated GPU there isn't really a point to getting an AMD CPU, because it's biggest advantage is some pretty respectable integrated graphics performance (Well, for less than $160, it is).
[QUOTE=soulharvester;41094306]They're okay for cheap builds that you aren't dumping more than around $350-400 dollars on, and never plan to upgrade.
But if you're buying a dedicated GPU there isn't really a point to getting an AMD CPU, because it's biggest advantage is some pretty respectable integrated graphics performance (Well, for less than $160, it is).[/QUOTE]
Which Haswell just countered.
Not really, Haswell's integrated GPU is better than ivy's, obviously, but it doesn't beat AMD's Richland CPU, especially when you factor in the price. As I said, they're okay for cheap builds you don't really plan to upgrade in the future or put lots of money in.
[url]http://www.anandtech.com/show/7032/amds-richland-vs-intels-haswell-gpu-on-the-desktop-radeon-hd-8670d-hd-4600/2[/url]
From what I've been reading about Haswell in the last couple of days, for Desktops, the Haswell isn't really worth upgrading to over Ivy. :P
It really only shines in the Mobile versions.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;41095584]Not really, Haswell's integrated GPU is better than ivy's, obviously, but it doesn't beat AMD's Richland CPU, especially when you factor in the price. As I said, they're okay for cheap builds you don't really plan to upgrade in the future or put lots of money in.
[url]http://www.anandtech.com/show/7032/amds-richland-vs-intels-haswell-gpu-on-the-desktop-radeon-hd-8670d-hd-4600/2[/url][/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested/9[/url]
and the HD5000
[video=youtube;LaqVGXuuWSQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaqVGXuuWSQ[/video]
You mean HD5200, AKA Iris Pro, AKA that thing that's not on their 4770K or 4670k.
So you'd have to get a BGA (socket-less) 4770R for their desktop version of their Iris Pro CPU.
[QUOTE=Del91;41097579]From what I've been reading about Haswell in the last couple of days, for Desktops, the Haswell isn't really worth upgrading to over Ivy. :P
It really only shines in the Mobile versions.[/QUOTE]
I know some people who have stuck with ivy and sandy bridge cpus. not a problem with that.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;41103730]You mean HD5200, AKA Iris Pro, AKA that thing that's not on their 4770K or 4670k.
So you'd have to get a BGA (socket-less) 4770R for their desktop version of their Iris Pro CPU.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't find the benchmark for HD5000 so I linked a HD5000 GAMEPLAY video.
Nonetheless you said Haswell wasn't able to compete against AMD.
AAAND to finish this shit. HD5000 is going to be common on laptops, but not on desktops.
When in the "PC Building" forum, I was referring entirely to the actual Haswell processors that people would actually suggest for "PC Building".
Lets say I get a great graphics card. What would be a low end CPU that would be fine for Planetside 2 and ARMA III? Intel I3? AMD FX 6300?
Planetside 2? I've got an i7 and I still get bottlenecked.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;41163037]Lets say I get a great graphics card. What would be a low end CPU that would be fine for Planetside 2 and ARMA III? Intel I3? AMD FX 6300?[/QUOTE]
get an i5 instead - else it'll just be annoying
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