Morrowind yesterday, Oblivion today? What next, Skyrim tomorrow, or the original Arena or Daggerfall?
[QUOTE=RikohZX;40877664]Morrowind yesterday, Oblivion today? What next, Skyrim tomorrow, or the original Arena or Daggerfall?[/QUOTE]
Morrowind yesterday. Oblivion today. Skyrim tomorrow. Elder Scrolls VI the day after.
i hope skyrim goes on sale too
Oblivion is worth it just for the legendary Radiant AI.
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[QUOTE=Juggernog;40877672]Morrowind yesterday. Oblivion today. Skyrim tomorrow. Elder Scrolls VI the day after.[/QUOTE]
No no no, it goes
Morrowind yesterday, Oblivion today, Fallout 3 tomorrow, Fallout New Vegas the day after, and then we finally get our hands on Elder Scrolls VI. Bethesda will completely dominate the Steam market for decades to come and the modding community will aid with the 1000s of porn mods specifically designed for such a task, it's pure genius.
[QUOTE=SouthParkMGT;40877732]Oblivion is worth it just for the legendary Radiant AI.
[video=youtube;FGylj_A22AY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGylj_A22AY[/video][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Riller;40877662]Worst of the three latest ones.[/QUOTE]
it's better than skyrim
it actually has enemies that [I]aren't[/I] just draugr! incredible!
I still find Oblivion better and more fun than skyrim, skyrim only really has the technology and music going for it, the further the elder scrolls go the less depth they seem to have...and then they've gone straight to mmo, its like a cycle of evolution but kinda backwards.
Worth it.
I also recommend this mod: [url]http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/43612/?[/url]
It makes the faces not look like beat up potatoes.
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;40877785]it's better than skyrim
it actually has enemies that [I]aren't[/I] just draugr! incredible![/QUOTE]
You know, when Morrowind went on sale I also re-installed Skyrim to try it out again. I modded the hell out of it and was overall having a good time.........then I entered the first dungeon and saw the Dragur and nearly all of the fun I had just got swept out of me.
[QUOTE=Generic Monk;40875972] I hope oblivion gets put on sale soon because hunting down the game disc, the expansion disc and the DLC disc then installing the patches, then applying a no cd patch so I don't have to fucking find the disc every time I want to play is one of the reasons why it isn't permanently installed on all my computers[/QUOTE]
fuck yes
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;40877785]it's better than skyrim
it actually has enemies that [I]aren't[/I] just draugr! incredible![/QUOTE]
Yeah, bandits and skellingtons. I'm not too fond of Skyrim either, but at least the leveling system isn't completely ass-backwards, the bandits don't use top tier weapons when you reach level five (As if you'd ever figure out how to reach level five with that system), and the world isn't completely boring to look at.
Oblivion is my favorite Elder Scrolls game.
Skyrim is alright, and I never enjoyed Morrowind.
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[QUOTE=Riller;40877913]Yeah, bandits and skellingtons. I'm not too fond of Skyrim either, but at least the leveling system isn't completely ass-backwards, the bandits don't use top tier weapons when you reach level five (As if you'd ever figure out how to reach level five with that system), and the world isn't completely boring to look at.[/QUOTE]
I've never had any of those issues.
I don't see top tier equipment until level 25 or so. And the leveling system didn't take any effort to figure out.
The only things I really have a problem with are the potato people and combat.
Oh and the VA, but Skyrim doesn't really improve on that much.
[QUOTE=Rastadogg;40877955]Oblivion is my favorite Elder Scrolls game.
Skyrim is alright, and I never enjoyed Morrowind.[/QUOTE]
Skyrim is pretty much better fighting than Oblivion, better design, worse everything else. Even levelling in Oblivion was more interesting because everything was based on how well/often you used one skill, while skyrim uses that broken perks system that makes some skill trees entirely unviable, or just bad in comparison to other much more efficient skill trees. In Vanilla Skyrim there is essentially no point in levelling light armor since you can just go heavy armor even with sneak and a bow/arrow.
Morrowind still tops it all because at least the game isn't super generic looking. Oblivion is your average classic fantasy themed game and Skyrim is your average modern gritty fantasy themed game. Morrowind is somewhere between dark fantasy and lovecraftian design.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40877974]Skyrim is pretty much better fighting than Oblivion, better design, worse everything else.
Morrowind still tops it all because at least the game isn't super generic looking. Oblivion is your average classic fantasy themed game and Skyrim is your average modern gritty fantasy themed game. Morrowind is somewhere between dark fantasy and lovecraftian design.[/QUOTE]
Oh I'll agree Morrowind has great art direction, but I just can't get over the gameplay.
But maybe it's just the fact that I didn't get into it when it was new.
skyrim is better [highlight](in my opinion)[/highlight] at everything than oblivion is
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;40878017]That's why I said vanilla Oblivion is shit.
You have to learn how to properly mod it if you want to turn it into the game it should be.
As far as the levelling system goes, don't know about anyone else but I use OOO.
It makes everything much more difficult if you want it to and it makes it so that all levels of enemies are in the world from the beginning. It fixes a lot of things too.
And there are a ton of good mods that add unique stuff to the world so it doesn't look like it was made with a terrain generator.[/QUOTE]
I don't mind modding a game to be good, but I don't think you can call Oblivion better, if it [I]requires[/I] mods to be good. Sure, a modded Oblivion is better than Skyrim, but that doesn't make Oblivion better than Skyrim, just means Oblivion holds more potential. Which probably isn't even true, we just haven't seen the great Skyrim mods yet.
If you like RPG's you should definitely get it. It's an amazingly fun game.
Personally I had [B]a lot[/B] more fun in Oblivion than I ever had in Skyrim. I usually don't compare it to Morrowind, it's like an entirely different approach.
[QUOTE=gooooooooooogle;40877996]skyrim is better [highlight](in my opinion)[/highlight] at everything than oblivion is[/QUOTE]
I'm going to need you to go get some proof of that.
Please go to this dungeon filled with draugr and retrieve it more me.
this is the best one IMO (though I've never played daggerfall and arena because I frankly can't be arsed at the moment)
all the questlines are really fun to do and uncover, the world is huge and colourful and the enemy/NPC variety is way above skyrim's, the combat isn't great but it's workable and makes more sense than morrowind's. the mods are also fucking amazing.
morrowind is a great game by virtue of its world and the stories it weaves using it, and some of the very best stuff in TES lore comes from MW, but to absorb the world you need to power through awful, clunky game mechanics and very workmanlike quests, along with NPC dialogue that's pretty well written but fairly unimmersive
oblivion loses some of the amazing world but gains in the amazing structured quests and questlines, each one has some of the best writing in the series. and surprisingly for a game that has about 14 voice actors for a game of 1000+ NPCs of 10 races and 2 genders, some memorable characters that just don't exist in skyrim, and rarely in morrowind. i couldn't name you any incidental characters in skyrim but I could name you dozens from oblivion. overall it's really flawed but it has so much heart that I can't help loving it. it also helps that you can correct pretty much anything that you don't like about the game with mods, excepting of course the heinous lack of diagonal running
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[QUOTE=Riller;40878064]I don't mind modding a game to be good, but I don't think you can call Oblivion better, if it [I]requires[/I] mods to be good. Sure, a modded Oblivion is better than Skyrim, but that doesn't make Oblivion better than Skyrim, just means Oblivion holds more potential. Which probably isn't even true, we just haven't seen the great Skyrim mods yet.[/QUOTE]
nah oblivion doesn't require mods to be good, they just change the quality of the game a lot more than the current skyrim mods do
[QUOTE=gooooooooooogle;40877996]skyrim is better [highlight](in my opinion)[/highlight] at everything than oblivion is[/QUOTE]
This statement has been made very popular the first week or so Skyrim was out. I'm surprised people still say that.
I've enjoyed Morrowind and I've enjoyed Skyrim, but whenever I reinstall Oblivion I get bored within minutes. I just find Cyrodiil really bland in general.
I know it has some of the best questlines in the TES series but I can't bear to power through them when the environments hardly seem unique. The only time I ever play Oblivion is for Nehrim.
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[QUOTE=proch;40878108]This statement has been made very popular the first week or so Skyrim was out. I'm surprised people still say that.[/QUOTE]
yea people have different tastes im shocked at this revelation as well
Skyrim is more of a step sideways rather than a step up from oblivion IMO. The dungeons are just as repetitive, a lot of more interesting monsters are flat out gone, and the combat barely has any difference mechanically, it's just killmoves, better animations, and dual wielding really. It's still fun, and the outside world is a lot more interesting, but the quests (and the writing for them), especially the guilds are laughable compared to Oblivion, the dungeons are basically just as repetitive (and are just as uninteresting with a few exceptions) and the crafting system hurts what is already an (IMO) very limited selection of armors because of how easy they are to craft (which takes away from the joy of discovering a set).
Sure the game isn't bad by any means, but the time I spent playing Oblivion I enjoyed quite a bit more.
Am I likely to go back to regular Oblivion? Probably not, but that doesn't change the fact that it took me a hell of a lot longer to get tired of the game.
All my money is gone :( If skyrim goes on sale tomorrow i'll have to prostitute myself.
The main reason I liked Oblivion better was because the main and faction story-lines were all 100% better.
The world feels more alive too since irrelevant characters have more purpose than a one-liner when you press "E"
yeah, it seems that they had systems that could have worked really well if they were refined a little more in oblivion, but rather than fixing them they just removed them and replaced them with a dramatically simplified version that wasn't as deep
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;40877751]I don't get it why everyone just loves Morrowind. Do some people just absolutely love giant mushrooms and a combat system that manages to be even more boring than Oblivion and Skyrim? Or is it just the nostalgia factor?[/QUOTE]
Morrowind felt like it had more depth than Oblivion/Skyrim. It was a more "intellectual" game, with more consequences for your actions (faction memberships actually meant something, unlike Skyrim), and the journal system where you had to think out quests (unlike Skyrim, which just has an arrow pointing to where you need to go, since you couldn't figure it out otherwise).
It was a different style of game, more in-depth for roleplaying than the newer games are. Some people liked that, others prefer the newer games' style.
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