• Logitech's new Pro Gaming Mouse aims for lightweight purity
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I have a really lightweight collapse able travel mouse and honestly i prefer the extra heft of my desktop mouse.
I want to release the world's first all-lead mouse
When a company touts a product as extremely light, all I hear is "cheap to make". Why have the times of substantial, weighty electronics gone the way of the dinosaurs? I personally love heavier mice, and I find them infinitely more confidence-inspiring than featherweight hunks of plastic that weigh less than a AA battery.
Once i bought an offbrand mice in lidl which had weights which you could put into the mouse if you wanted it. Had like 6 small weights, so you could have it your way. It also lasted like 5 years and cost maybe 10 euro, pretty amazing.
[QUOTE=MrWhite;50894167]When a company touts a product as extremely light, all I hear is "cheap to make". Why have the times of substantial, weighty electronics gone the way of the dinosaurs? I personally love heavier mice, and I find them infinitely more confidence-inspiring than featherweight hunks of plastic that weigh less than a AA battery.[/QUOTE] My old mouse came with weights that you could snap into it, so you could customise how heavy the mouse was. I slapped all 6 weights in it and it felt great to use. I don't understand the move toward weightless, feelingless devices, they feel like shit to use.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;50894332]My old mouse came with weights that you could snap into it, so you could customise how heavy the mouse was. I slapped all 6 weights in it and it felt great to use. I don't understand the move toward weightless, feelingless devices, they feel like shit to use.[/QUOTE] Realistically they have had the tech to make lightweight mice for years now but now with the rise of mobas and what not manufacturers think they can sell shoddy flimsy mice as a pro gamer accessory. Using less material probably shaves off several percent on cost while at the same time they can keep their prices the same its actually kind of scummy.
[QUOTE=MrWhite;50894167]When a company touts a product as extremely light, all I hear is "cheap to make". Why have the times of substantial, weighty electronics gone the way of the dinosaurs? [/QUOTE] Logistics. For the freight cost of one you can ship two or three from your manufacturer in China.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;50894332]My old mouse came with weights that you could snap into it, so you could customise how heavy the mouse was. I slapped all 6 weights in it and it felt great to use. I don't understand the move toward weightless, feelingless devices, they feel like shit to use.[/QUOTE] For things that you carry with you (laptops, phones), I can see it mattering because depending on what you do these things could be on your person all day every day. Slightly lighter stuff might feel better as time drags on. Also for mice that's more personal preference. Some people prefer light, some heavy. [editline]16th August 2016[/editline] My question is, why is this $70 when the g402 is $60 and the g502 is $80, both with more features and, at least in the g502's case, the same sensor? This looks like an incredibly solid basic mouse but you'd think for a basic mouse they'd price it out for like $40 or $50, and then upsell the ricer features on the 402 and 502. I love Logitech but if I were shopping for just a basic gaming mouse I'd rather buy a SteelSeries Rival or a Zowie. They're both gonna also have flawless sensors, all the basic features, and great build quality, but for $30-$40 cheaper.
Still waiting for them to make a proper G700 successor, all their new mice have either less buttons (or shitty placement) or less features, and since the switches in my G700 are starting to fail I'm not sure what should I replace it with
I need little ledges at the bottom of my mice. Like, ignore the fact that this mouse is probably garbage: [img]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51WEqmH4pCL._SX425_.jpg[/img] It curves out at the bottom and is [I]much[/I] more comfortable to hold.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;50894332]My old mouse came with weights that you could snap into it, so you could customise how heavy the mouse was. I slapped all 6 weights in it and it felt great to use. I don't understand the move toward weightless, feelingless devices, they feel like shit to use.[/QUOTE] I still use this mouse, forget the model number but it's a Logitech. Such a good mouse
I like that it's ambidextrous and has swappable buttons but heavier mice just feel better to use in general. I used to have one of those logitech g500s with the additional weights and it didn't feel right to use without all the weight in it.
A heavy mouse with a flawless sensor should be a "pro gaming" mouse industry standard. Maybe market these lightweight mice to people with facebook machines, Slash the $70 or it probably wouldn't even sell as a generic mouse.
I just think that weight is so much down to personal preference that's it's difficult to say one way or the other - hence, adjustable weights are the way to go ideally. As long as its made of quality material, not just really flimsy plastic, a lightweight mouse should be able to compete with a heavier one, depending on your preference.
The only issue I have with light mice is that there's less weight countering the flex of the cable, you can often feel the cable resisting your mouse movements a tiny bit even with a bungee because there's less difference in energy required for mouse movement and for the cable to flex, whereas heavier mice make the cable resistance feel almost non-existent in due to the relative force needed to move the mouse.
[QUOTE=gk99;50895225]I need little ledges at the bottom of my mice. Like, ignore the fact that this mouse is probably garbage: [img]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51WEqmH4pCL._SX425_.jpg[/img] It curves out at the bottom and is [I]much[/I] more comfortable to hold.[/QUOTE] I have one of these, following the untimely demise of my Steelseries mouse. It's actually not much worse. Build quality's alright and the tracking's pretty decent.
I used a heavy mouse ~150g and always had wrist pain, thought it was bad posture and tried other things but nothing worked. Once i switched to a very light mouse ~75g all the pain vanished.
[QUOTE=brandonsh;50901133]I have one of these, following the untimely demise of my Steelseries mouse. It's actually not much worse. Build quality's alright and the tracking's pretty decent.[/QUOTE] I had a very similar one and, while it was very comfortable and looked nice and had a nifty little DPI button, eventually every time I pressed the left mouse button it acted as if I was pressing the double-click button. I eventually gave it away and bought myself a little HP mouse with a smaller profile, similar shape, and all it's missing is the DPI button and double-click button I never used.
Bring back the G400(s).
[QUOTE=KeX194;50901972]I used a heavy mouse ~150g and always had wrist pain, thought it was bad posture and tried other things but nothing worked. Once i switched to a very light mouse ~75g all the pain vanished.[/QUOTE] That's also a really great point, especially if you use it for every day applications as well as gaming. RPI isn't much fun...
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