Good cheap agp card. - Hardware & Software

So i took a look at a friends old pc that he wanted to put his old card in when he got a new card and it has a agp instead of pci-express. The card in it when i booted it had the artifacts of a dead card and a really bad noise coming from the fan, so i looked at and saw that it was full of dirt that completely blocked airflow. I cleaned out all the dirt and it mostly stopped artifacting but it still does it when starting up and stuff like java just crashes. so I ask you facepunch what agp card would be cheap and better then a radeon 9800 if possible.

it would probably be cheaper to buy a new pci-express motherboard and a cheap pci-express video card [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] Scratch that, there's still some decent AGP cards for their money. A 4650 is the best you will be able to get and it's about $80 [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125281[/url] and only $60 with a rebate.

ATI 2600, but I haven't used many. [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] that many AGP Cards, that is.

You're really gimping yourself if you ever want to upgrade in the future. I [i]strongly[/i] suggest getting a new motherboard with a PCIe x16 2.0/2.1 slot.

[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;25788056]You're really gimping yourself if you ever want to upgrade in the future. I [i]strongly[/i] suggest getting a new motherboard with a PCIe x16 2.0/2.1 slot.[/QUOTE] It's not really a gaming computer, just something to edit audio and maybe play tf2 or something once and a while. also I told them about the one captain proton linked and they got that so that should be good.

[QUOTE=raceingdemon;25788895]It's not really a gaming computer, just something to edit audio and maybe play tf2 or something once and a while. also I told them about the one captain proton linked and they got that so that should be good.[/QUOTE] What's your CPU and rest of specs? 4650 should be good for TF2 if your resolution is less than 1680x1050.

[QUOTE=FalcoLombardi;25789159]What's your CPU and rest of specs? 4650 should be good for TF2 if your resolution is less than 1680x1050.[/QUOTE] Pentium 4 3 Ghz with hyper threading but only 1 GB of DDR.

if you got another GB of the same type of RAM that would also increase performance a lot. A GB of DDR shouldn't be too bad to find, but since it's DDR it'll probably be around $30 for another GB. A jump from 1 to 2 GB can make a world of difference though.

[QUOTE=raceingdemon;25789460]Pentium 4 3 Ghz with hyper threading but only 1 GB of DDR.[/QUOTE] My old 1.5 GB DDR400, AGP Radeon X1950 Pro, 3.4 GHz P4 machine was able to pull off L4D on medium settings, TF2 was quite playable.

[QUOTE=raceingdemon;25789460]Pentium 4 3 Ghz with hyper threading but only 1 GB of DDR.[/QUOTE] your PC sounds a lot like my old one. in that case, i had a really cheap 3650, and that bottlenecked my CPU, try finding one of those, they sell them all virtually every swap meet iv'e been to.\ played TF2 and all source games quite well.

similar to my old junker until the x1650 pro died TF2 medium settings erryday

4650 for AGP? Surprised they are still supporting it.

My PC is an LGA775 Pentium 4 (Prescott Core) with HT @ 3.0GHz, with 768MB of DDR400, and a GeForce 5600XT (128MB) running XP SP3 (Stripped-down with nLite to be lightning-quick on systems with only 256MB~320MB of RAM). Runs HL2 at 1080p like absolute dog-shit, even on lowest settings with dx8. :D

Try 800x600.

[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;25798144]My PC is an LGA775 Pentium 4 (Prescott Core) with HT @ 3.0GHz, with 768MB of DDR400, and a GeForce 5600XT (128MB) running XP SP3 (Stripped-down with nLite to be lightning-quick on systems with only 256MB~320MB of RAM). Runs HL2 at 1080p like absolute dog-shit, even on lowest settings with dx8. :D[/QUOTE] [img]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/Demache/speccydx270.png[/img] Runs HL2 at the native resolution fairly well. Pretty good for being an ex-school PC. I normally play in windowed though.

[QUOTE=Demache;25799188][img_thumb]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/Demache/speccydx270.png[/img_thumb] Runs HL2 at the native resolution fairly well. Pretty good for being an ex-school PC. I normally play in windowed though.[/QUOTE] Why did you buy ultimate? You probably don't even utilize the functions that ultimate has over professional.

The 3850 is the best AGP card out there. Period.

[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;25800914]Why did you buy ultimate? You probably don't even utilize the functions that ultimate has over professional.[/QUOTE] He could have not bought it... A bunch of dipshits at my school do that, it bugs the living shit out of me.

he probably pirated it

I got it from a friend. he probably pirated it though. wouldn't be surprised. [editline]2nd November 2010[/editline] I'll buy home premium legitimately when I build a new system.

Good Cheap AGP Pick two

[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;25800914]Why did you buy ultimate? You probably don't even utilize the functions that ultimate has over professional.[/QUOTE] It's funny how you automatically thought that he bought it.

[QUOTE=64fanatic;25793811]4650 for AGP? Surprised they are still supporting it.[/QUOTE] I don't see how they wouldn't, it's the same chip as the PCIe version, they just put an AGP2PCIe bridge chip on the card.

well they got the card but are too scared to install it for the fear of breaking something. anyone know of a guide to install a AGP card into a XPS gen 2 other than the service manual?

open case put AGP card in AGP slot screw bracket into case close case [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] install drivers

[QUOTE=raceingdemon;25857528]well they got the card but are too scared to install it for the fear of breaking something. anyone know of a guide to install a AGP card into a XPS gen 2 other than the service manual?[/QUOTE] Put card in slot that it looks like it fits in and avoid doing something like this: [img]http://tinypic.com/i1ietf.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=bohb;25864898]Put card in slot that it looks like it fits in and avoid doing something like this: [img_thumb]http://tinypic.com/i1ietf.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] didn't that work if done right? I remember I read a while ago a guy did it with a pci express 16x and cut the pins off and got it into a 4x I think and it worked. I also read that there are some motherboards that have a bus that is open on one end so that the card will fit. [editline]5th November 2010[/editline] Also My friend told me that they want me to install it. I don't mind but i should show them how to do it this time.

[QUOTE=raceingdemon;25870547]didn't that work if done right? I remember I read a while ago a guy did it with a pci express 16x and cut the pins off and got it into a 4x I think and it worked. I also read that there are some motherboards that have a bus that is open on one end so that the card will fit. [editline]5th November 2010[/editline] Also My friend told me that they want me to install it. I don't mind but i should show them how to do it this time.[/QUOTE] it looks like this guy tried fitting it in a normal pci slot.

[QUOTE=raceingdemon;25870547]didn't that work if done right? I remember I read a while ago a guy did it with a pci express 16x and cut the pins off and got it into a 4x I think and it worked. I also read that there are some motherboards that have a bus that is open on one end so that the card will fit. [editline]5th November 2010[/editline] Also My friend told me that they want me to install it. I don't mind but i should show them how to do it this time.[/QUOTE] You should [b]never[/b] remove part of the connector on a PCIe card, even if you want to put it in a PCIe slot with fewer lanes. It will work if done correctly, but the card will have severely reduced bandwidth and crippled performance, among you can never reverse the damage done to the card if you get a better motherboard. The far less destructive method is to get a motherboard with open ended PCIe slots, or cut a notch in the back of the PCIe connector on the motherboard and let the card connector hang out of the slot, preferably taped over so it doesn't short out.