Caamib's views - General - Facepunch Forum

Not long ago, on the thread: "[I]Guy from misc shoots up the place I order sandwiches from, kills four people[/I]", banned user [B]Caamib[/B], posted what I and others call: "[B]THE GREAT TEXT-WALL OF FACEPUNCH[/B]." This was in the sensationalist headlines section of the forum (it's now locked). And this was followed by [B]hundreds[/B] of responses in a very short amount of time. This guy is a hateful man. Who I think has the potential to cause a lot of harm. He could be the next [U]Elliot Rodgers[/U], in my opinion. And I think people should be aware of him. Also, if he himself is not going to harm anyone, he has the potential to inspire such with his writings. And so I think it is best we pick this guy's writings apart. We should criticize them. Because if we don't, people who hold these views will stay in a bubble where no one criticizes them - until it is too late. And the worse thing happens. [I]Now, I won't give any links to this content, because I fear banning.[/I] But I will ask this... Do people here want to discuss these views and pick apart his points? [B]OR[/B] would you peeps rather forget this guy ever said a thing?

I already miss him.

The guys a nutjob, thats about it.

He's not going to kill anyone, he's just a weirdo

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;45799235]He's not going to kill anyone, he's just a weirdo[/QUOTE] What would you have called Elliot Rodger pre-shooting?

He's made a thread in the Refugee Camp asking for an explanation for his banning, because he has [I]no idea[/I] what caused it. He misunderstands the purpose of the RC: [QUOTE=caamib]Hey, tell that guy who analyzed my essay to come here. I wanna know if he analyzed it further. He didn't do that badly in his first attempt....[/QUOTE] Best not to encourage him since he's been perma'd, I think, might make him decide to make alts and give the mods more shit to deal with.

[QUOTE=Kardia;45799246]What would you have called Elliot Rodger pre-shooting?[/QUOTE] Elliot was a one off. There's plenty of weirdos in the world who don't kill anyone.

I don't think there's much to discuss really. His "ideas" were paper-thin and anyone with two brain-cells to rub together could see they were a load of bollocks. It's fun to reminisce on the funny things that happen, but I think it should just be left to the Facepunch History Books.

who gives a shit, he's just some weird dude and stuff. There's hundreds of them on this forum.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;45799263]Elliot was a one off. There's plenty of weirdos in the world who don't kill anyone.[/QUOTE] Killers like Elliot are sporadic and uncommon. But they have existed and will continue to exist weather we like it or not. Interesting to see so many people dismiss this. [I]"He's weird, eeeewwww let's not think about his icky words. Leave him in the corner and he won't be an issue."[/I] This is a joke. The guy needs rebuttals. [U]He doesn't [B]deserve[/B] them.[/U] But he [B]needs[/B] them if he's going to stabilize for humanities sake.

[QUOTE=Kardia;45799471]Killers like Elliot are sporadic and uncommon. But they have existed and will continue to exist weather we like it or not.[/QUOTE] Why should be care exactly about Caamib? list 5 reasons, good ones.

[QUOTE=J!NX;45799504]Why should be care exactly about Caamib? list 5 reasons, good ones.[/QUOTE] We should care about him the same way we care about a bomb or a dangerous chemical leak. 5 reasons? [I]That's really trivial.[/I] The guy could be damaging people around him, and he has the potential to do more damage.

[QUOTE=Kardia;45799529]We should care about him the same way we care about a bomb or a dangerous chemical leak. 5 reasons? [I]That's really trivial.[/I] The guy could be damaging people around him, and he has the potential to do more damage.[/QUOTE] He's not a bomb, he's a sad bastard with an internet blog

[QUOTE=Kardia;45799529]We should care about him the same way we care about a bomb or a dangerous chemical leak. 5 reasons? [I]That's really trivial.[/I] The guy could be damaging people around him, and he has the potential to do more damage.[/QUOTE] 5 reasons is trivial to you and you can't do a single good reason how are we going to deal with them? How can you actually prove he's harming anyone? for all your know he's a troll

He's permabanned. He's not our problem anymore.

[QUOTE=Kardia;45799471]Killers like Elliot are sporadic and uncommon. But they have existed and will continue to exist weather we like it or not. Interesting to see so many people dismiss this. [I]"He's weird, eeeewwww let's not think about his icky words. Leave him in the corner and he won't be an issue."[/I] This is a joke. The guy needs rebuttals. [U]He doesn't [B]deserve[/B] them.[/U] But he [B]needs[/B] them if he's going to stabilize for humanities sake.[/QUOTE] I think caamib is too far into the deep end for anyone on this forum to help. He needs some serious, psychiatric help, one you can only find in a mental hospital. He is too far set into his ideas to admit he may be wrong. Sad, really, but who else would write a freaking 21,000 word essay except someone who is so sure of themselves?

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;45799535]He's not a bomb, he's a sad bastard with an internet blog[/QUOTE] It was an analogy. I'll be less metaphorical so you can understand. That sad bastard with an internet blog [I]is a human[/I], and that human is capable of many things, the spreading of hate and possibly the murder of innocents.

[QUOTE=Kardia;45799580]It was an analogy. I'll be less metaphorical so you can understand. That sad bastard with an internet blog [I]is a human[/I], and that human is capable of many things, the spreading of hate and possibly the murder of innocents.[/QUOTE] You know who else spreads hate? Fucking tons of people on the Internet and this forum and fucking everywhere. And the vast majority don't go crazy and murder people. They're just fucking crazy. I'm not defending the guy, but not everyone who spreads hate gains followers. And not everyone who is crazy murders people. You're being way too melodramatic about a guy who's just a crazy sexist idiot.

[QUOTE=J!NX;45799546]5 reasons is trivial to you and you can't do a single good reason[/QUOTE] Sorry, I should have said that the question was pointless. Like asking me how many fish are in the sea. It's a question that has no baring on the conversation. Trivial was a terrible word to use. I should have said "pointless." I think the danger of the guy is enough of a reason to care. I shouldn't have to list 4 other reasons, it's stupid. [QUOTE=J!NX;45799546]how are we going to deal with them? How can you actually prove he's harming anyone? for all your know he's a troll[/QUOTE] Good point. We can't deal with him because he's been banned from our little bubble here called [I]facepunch.[/I] We can't prove anything, we can only speculate. He could be a troll who tries very very (23,000 word essay) hard to seem genuine.

[QUOTE=Kardia;45799645]Sorry, I should have said that the question was pointless. Like asking me how many fish are in the sea. It's a question that has no baring on the conversation. Trivial was a terrible word to use. I should have said "pointless." I think the danger of the guy is enough of a reason to care. I shouldn't have to list 4 other reasons, it's stupid. Good point. We can't deal with him because he's been banned from our little bubble here called [I]facepunch.[/I] We can't prove anything, we can only speculate. He could be a troll who tries very very (23,000 word essay) hard to seem genuine.[/QUOTE] I don't know, there are some dedicated ass trolls out there, and some people who can pull even longer essays out of their ass

[QUOTE=J!NX;45799309]who gives a shit, he's just some weird dude and stuff. There's hundreds of them on this forum.[/QUOTE] but how many type 21,000 word essays for a response (over the space of 2 months)? not many.

[QUOTE=J!NX;45799662]I don't know, there are some dedicated ass trolls out there, and some people who can pull even longer essays out of their ass[/QUOTE] While I would like caamib to be a troll, the evidence points to them being genuine, what with the blog and everything.

[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;45799605]You know who else spreads hate? Fucking tons of people on the Internet and this forum and fucking everywhere. And the vast majority don't go crazy and murder people. They're just fucking crazy.[/QUOTE] I agree. But some of them do go crazy and murder people. Very few do. But they still do. [QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;45799605]I'm not defending the guy, but not everyone who spreads hate gains followers.[/QUOTE] Well... his genre of hate speech does in fact have many advocates. [QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;45799605]You're being way too melodramatic about a guy who's just a crazy sexist idiot.[/QUOTE] I think crazy sexist idiots need to be told how they're wrong no matter how futile it is to do so. That's all. How is this over-dramatic?

Yep, anon can't get laid, guess he's going to shoot up the place. If you care so fucking much, go talk to him on reddit. It's not hard to find someone with that username who talks about lack of sex in all of his posts, just stop making yourself look like a jackass. [editline]25th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Kardia;45799740]I agree. But some of them do go crazy and murder people. Very few do. But they still do.[/QUOTE] [B]So why do you care so much and why do you think you can stop him?[/B] Even if he confirmed that he was going to shoot up somewhere, we don't even know his name. [editline]a[/editline] If anyone can do [I]anything[/I] about him, it's probably Garry.

[QUOTE=Kardia;45799740] Well... his genre of hate speech does in fact have many advocates. I think crazy sexist idiots need to be told how they're wrong no matter how futile it is to do so. That's all. How is this over-dramatic?[/QUOTE] I don't think he alone caused his hate speech to gain advocates. Just because he joins a force does not mean he alone is a threat. And I'm pretty sure he knows how wrong he is simply by being on this forum and being banned with "insane". Whether he takes it or not is out of our control and we can't do much to change if he accepts it.

[QUOTE=gk99;45799814]If you care so fucking much, go talk to him on reddit. It's not hard to find someone with that username who talks about lack of sex in all of his posts[/QUOTE] Alright, I will. Thank you for pointing that out. [QUOTE=gk99;45799814]stop making yourself look like a jackass.[/QUOTE] Oh no I look like a jackass when writing down my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong? [I]That makes me sooooo saaaad.[/I] :( [QUOTE=gk99;45799814][B]So why do you care so much[/QUOTE] Because when I see killers these days, especially the ones that shot up public places recently, I see frustrated and broken men - who think they are God like, when all they are are pitiful people with a twisted point of view and a self righteous anger. I want to change their view. Which I know seems futile. But I at least want to try. [QUOTE=gk99;45799814]why do you think you can stop him?[/B][/QUOTE] I don't think I can. [I]I hope I can.[/I] Why do I hope this? I don't know... I hope it because I'm optimistic (retardly optimistic maybe). [QUOTE=gk99;45799814]Even if he confirmed that he was going to shoot up somewhere, we don't even know his name.[/QUOTE] I just want to talk to him online. Which shouldn't be a major feat. The opinions that he shares with me. I want to criticize them. But I'm not going to track him down or anything like that. I draw the line there.

If he's as crazy as you say he is, what makes you think he'll change Who's to say you criticizing his opinions won't tip him over the edge?

[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;45799843]I don't think he alone caused his hate speech to gain advocates. Just because he joins a force does not mean he alone is a threat. And I'm pretty sure he knows how wrong he is simply by being on this forum and being banned with "insane". Whether he takes it or not is out of our control and we can't do much to change if he accepts it.[/QUOTE] Okay so maybe he isn't that much of a threat. Yes he is likely insane. But I still think the ideas that he holds are threatening and I think they are worth criticism rather than dismissal. And I get it. He is out of our control. He's a rabid dog and we kicked him out of the house because he smelled bad. It's not our fault if that the dog ends up biting a little girls face off.

He was a loon and it's good that he was perma'd.

[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;45799992]Who's to say you criticizing his opinions won't tip him over the edge?[/QUOTE] That's an interesting point. But I can turn it on its head. Who's to say me criticizing his opinions won't stop him from doing something terrible?