[QUOTE=comment]Personaly I can’t wait for valve to allow custom maps for dota2 so we can have Warcraft3 on its engine.[/QUOTE]
olol what
[QUOTE=Clio;39266895]olol what[/QUOTE]
The original dota was a warcraft 3 map.
We got a sequel; World of Warcraft.
It's a shame because this will probably get a C&D notice sooner or later because you can't just do that shit.
[QUOTE=Xyrec;39267229]The original dota was a warcraft 3 map.[/QUOTE]
I know that.
But warcraft in source? GL
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oh wait I forgot i posted on fp
src is da best engin evar its so good for evrythang go vaelv
Bliz would get more response from a proper Warcraft sequel than that hilariously pathetic excuse of a moba "Blizzard Allstars"
[editline]18th January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Clio;39267364]I know that.
But warcraft in source? GL
[editline]18th January 2013[/editline]
oh wait I forgot i posted on fp
src is da best engin evar its so good for evrythang go vaelv[/QUOTE]
...You have seen any media of dota 2 yes? An rts in the Source engine is more than possible.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;39267355]It's a shame because this will probably get a C&D notice sooner or later because you can't just do that shit.[/QUOTE]
They [I]might[/I] be okay if they stopped directly ripping models from WoW. I've seen that as a almost certain source of legal troubles since the mod started.
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;39267325]We got a sequel; World of Warcraft.[/QUOTE]
more like an spinoff
[QUOTE=Trainbike;39267597]They [I]might[/I] be okay if they stopped directly ripping models from WoW. I've seen that as a almost certain source of legal troubles since the mod started.[/QUOTE]
They [i]won't[/i] be okay since they're using the Warcraft name.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;39268030]They [I]won't[/I] be okay since they're using the Warcraft name.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I suppose not. For some reason I just thought "Well it's a mod for another Blizzard game so they might get away with it" but that line of thought doesn't even make sense when it comes to naming anyway.
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;39267325]We got a sequel; World of Warcraft.[/QUOTE]
RTS sequel, use a different mindset.
You don't call Pokémon Snap a sequel to Pokémon Red/Blue, that's a spinoff like WoW is to Warcraft.
[QUOTE=Clio;39267364]I know that.
But warcraft in source? GL
[editline]18th January 2013[/editline]
oh wait I forgot i posted on fp
src is da best engin evar its so good for evrythang go vaelv[/QUOTE]
Wow you're so edgy and brave to say something like that. Too bad Source would be great for an rts.
[QUOTE=jechtman;39270516]RTS sequel, use a different mindset.
You don't call Pokémon Snap a sequel to Pokémon Red/Blue, that's a spinoff like WoW is to Warcraft.[/QUOTE]
It's not that cut and dry because Pokemon doesn't have a single narrative. Blizzard has said multiple times that WoW is the follow-up to Warcraft 3, which makes sense because it continues the stories and events afterwards. It's not a sequel in the literal sense that it is called Warcraft 4, but it definitely was intended to be one. Any Warcraft 4 we get at this point (if we get one; I'm sure Blizzard is fine with Starcraft 2 ruling the RTS roost) would be released with atleast a partial nod to WoW.
WC4 would have to be a prequel, otherwise Blizzard would have to make an ending for their biggest cash cow.
[QUOTE=Stinky;39272273]WC4 would have to be a prequel, otherwise Blizzard would have to make an ending for their biggest cash cow.[/QUOTE]
Impossible. WoW has already destroyed any and all lore, making an end for it would imply they're done taking the piss with their dead horse.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;39267355]It's a shame because this will probably get a C&D notice sooner or later because you can't just do that shit.[/QUOTE]
Blizzard doesn't do C&D's for mods on their games.
If someone wanted to do a Warcraft source mod they would probably send one.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;39274191]Impossible. WoW has already destroyed any and all lore, making an end for it would imply they're done taking the piss with their dead horse.[/QUOTE]
Uh it didn't destroy any lore it continued the lore from Warcraft 3.
[QUOTE=Trainbike;39267597]They [I]might[/I] be okay if they stopped directly ripping models from WoW. I've seen that as a almost certain source of legal troubles since the mod started.[/QUOTE]
Why would you use those shitty models from 2004?
Although I guess they'd be ok depending on camera distance.
The main reason why those models get ripped is because its pretty damn challenging to introduce new models into the SC2 engine.
Blizzard has gotten so lazy in the years. It kind of sucks. If they were like they were 10 years ago they would have made a DOTA game already.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;39267355]It's a shame because this will probably get a C&D notice sooner or later because you can't just do that shit.[/QUOTE]
Nah, it won't. Blizzard has a habbit of allowing games making their other games as long as it's on their own engine.
It's why the Cease and desisted the generals starcraft mod but did not C&D the starcraft mod for warcraft 3.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;39277006]Nah, it won't. Blizzard has a habbit of allowing games making their other games as long as it's on their own engine.
It's why the Cease and desisted the generals starcraft mod but did not C&D the starcraft mod for warcraft 3.[/QUOTE]
Activision did take action against the World of Starcraft mod, but I think that ended up being resolved somewhat.
That was because the suits got pissy because in the future they might want to milk the shit out of the franchise make a starcraft MMO.
[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;39280546]Activision did take action against the World of Starcraft mod, but I think that ended up being resolved somewhat.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Blizzard's lawyers issued a C&D and requested a meeting with the modders. Blizzard just told them to change the name since the have trademarks on World of Starcraft and that was the end of it.
[QUOTE=erik802;39271829]Wow you're so edgy and brave to say something like that. Too bad Source would be great for an rts.[/QUOTE]
Great is a stretch, possible is more the correct word for it.
There's Half Life 2 wars. Source isn't exactly amazing for RTS, mainly because making maps for it is pretty hard.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVr7xA9b7xM[/media]
Wow that video actually looks awesome, now I'll actually play StarCraft II again.
[QUOTE=zombojoe;39295328]There's Half Life 2 wars. Source isn't exactly amazing for RTS, mainly because making maps for it is pretty hard.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVr7xA9b7xM[/media][/QUOTE]
That's a [I]half-life 2[/I] mod using [I]half-life 2 [/I]assets and code. Obviously valve didn't think their way through making a game where you control units indirectly. So much that DotA 2 forced the team to do a complete overhaul of the engine. It's even hard to call it source, since a lot of things like the player/npc physics we're used to don't even exist in it, replaced by a system that fits their purpose, handling creep and hero movement indirectly for a MOBA. On the other hand, cs:go which is their latest FPS is pretty much L4D2 with cascaded shadows. They didn't have to overhaul the engine since it's the same kind of game as Half-Life 2.
Still, you're taking this too seriously. The guy that said about making a WC3 mod for DotA 2 was making a joke. [del]It would be impossible since DotA 2 is built from ground up to be a MOBA where you control a single unit[/del], and valve doesn't exactly allow modders to tinker with game code anymore.
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I got lost in the above striken statement, I meant to say DotA 2 had the whole player/npc system replaced by a unit system that fits a MOBA where you own one unit plus any extra spawned units (owned only by you) or heroes from players that left (shared units). True, you could add various units to the player's control but not just with a map. There are no entities in place to let players spawn and control units that are not part of their standard set (Hero + summons) or extra "Hero" AIs other than what's possible with cheats, severely limiting the range of controllable units. And also there's only four types of structures that do nothing, the towers being an exception and the ancient only serving to trigger the end of the game. My bad.
Valve is working on an SDK for Dota 2, Half Life 2 wars is made with the Alien Swarm SDK.
[url]http://www.dota2.com/workshop/[/url]
[quote]Q: Is there Dota 2 SDK?
A: We are working on it and will release it as soon as possible. For now you can use Alien Swarm SDK to see your items in HLMV (model viewer)[/quote]
If they didn't add the ability to make mods out of dota 2 they would be missing the whole reason the game exists.
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