• Building a New PC
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I'm going to be building a new PC pretty soon and I want a significant step up from: [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/2jcd7x5.jpg[/img] I will be gaming on this computer as well as doing some small time compiling and such for school and side projects. I've set up a list of stuff I've looked at the most and they are as follows: [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160"]Case[/URL] [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185"]Hard Drive[/URL] [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005"]PSU[/URL] [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665"]Motherboard[/URL] [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211"]CPU[/URL] [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231304"]RAM[/URL] [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057"]Heatsink[/URL] I have between $1500-1700 to spare from what it looks like. I'm not really a fanboy either but from what I've seen the GTX460 looks like the best price-performance ratio in the GPU world. I should mention I'm buying a new 23" Monitor and plan to run at 1920x1080. I want to be able to run my games at high between 40-60 FPS but I don't care too much about AA/AF at higher resolutions. I currently play stuff like SC2, Mafia II and stuff like that but I also have BF:BC2 which is very CPU dependent, hence why I don't play it. I also want it to be relatively future proof, at least a few years. EDIT: GPU is [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261076"]here.[/URL]
It looks like you know what you are doing. But instead of GTX460 for 1920x1080 I would get a GTX470/GTX480/GTX295/Radeon5870.
Your build is okay but there are a number of improvements which could be made. If you're just gaming then you won't need an i7, I'd recommend an i5 750/60. This would mean you'd need a new motherboard and you could only get 4GB of dual channel RAM but this would have no impact on your gaming performance whatsoever and would save you some money. You're right that the 460 is good value for money but if you're spending $1500 then a 470/80 may be more appropriate [editline]11:05PM[/editline] CPU:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215[/url] RAM:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274[/url] Motherboard:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130239[/url] GPU:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125319[/url]
[QUOTE=FalcoLombardi;24624441]It looks like you know what you are doing. But instead of GTX460 for 1920x1080 I would get a GTX470/GTX480/GTX295/Radeon5870.[/QUOTE] Well I've seen the Palit Sonic Plat stay right near or even surpass the 470 in performance, and it's even cheaper. Maybe in tessellation scenarios like Metro 2033 in DX11 it would fall behind but it should be fine right? And with the i7 I was hoping to future proof the build a little bit. Is the i5-750 really what everyone is touting it to be in CPU intensive games now and soon? And is the difference between the 460 and 480 significant enough to warrant it's price?
[url]http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=9987569[/url] Overkill or no? And is OCing the graphics card as easy as everyone makes it sound? I've never had the need or want to OC any of my components. Price is maybe a bit too high for me but it seems to be perfect and good in upgradability down the road.
I would dump the 950 and get a 1156 motherboard and cpu and use some money on a bigger powersupply and another case
[QUOTE=Eddie;24644999]I would dump the 950 and get a 1156 motherboard and cpu and use some money on a bigger powersupply and another case[/QUOTE] Can you give me reasoning for this though? I like to learn why not just hear "do this and it will be better." The LGA1366 Socket supports much better SLi setups and hexcore in the future no? I want "some" future-proofing to be around. And do I really need a bigger PSU for what I've setup? If you can suggest a case with decent drive bays and big enough to fit a decent GPU and CPU Cooler than I'd love to find it I find that one a bit big and heavy. If I dump the i7-950 for an i5-760 then I have less upgradability in the future with the 1156 socket right? But it does have decent overclocking and the i5-760 could get to 4GHz with a decent cooler. But is it really worth the loss of hyperthreading? I know games don't use it now but will more CPU intensive games be coming out that CAN take advantage of stuff like this within the next 1-2 years?
There are i7s on LGA 1156 >_>
[QUOTE=anikilol;24645584]There are i7s on LGA 1156 >_>[/QUOTE] Yes but if you are going to be on LGA 1156 why would you want an i7? There are i5's that outperform the i7's on that socket from the benchmarks I've seen in gaming.
[QUOTE=DaDillsta;24645927]Yes but if you are going to be on LGA 1156 why would you want an i7? There are i5's that outperform the i7's on that socket from the benchmarks I've seen in gaming.[/QUOTE] no they don't
[QUOTE=DaDillsta;24645927]Yes but if you are going to be on LGA 1156 why would you want an i7? There are i5's that outperform the i7's on that socket from the benchmarks I've seen in gaming.[/QUOTE] i5s and i7s are pretty much equal in gaming. The only reason you would get an i7 is if you do compiling and rendering and CAD work ontop of gaming. [editline]07:16PM[/editline] And get a Xeon X3440. It's a core i7 with a lower core-clock and higher binning so it will overclock extremely well. And its costs the same as a Core i5 750 I believe.
[QUOTE=Odellus;24646143]no they don't[/QUOTE] So you're telling me that an i7 does have benefits in gaming over the i5 or no? [QUOTE=ghostofme;24646370]i5s and i7s are pretty much equal in gaming. The only reason you would get an i7 is if you do compiling and rendering and CAD work ontop of gaming. [editline]07:16PM[/editline] And get a Xeon X3440. It's a core i7 with a lower core-clock and higher binning so it will overclock extremely well. And its costs the same as a Core i5 750 I believe.[/QUOTE] That seems like an interesting processor for the price, it is about $40 higher than the i5-750 on Newegg, not sure about anywhere else. I'm really tired of switching back and forth between build ideas I want to get a solid setup and not regret it.
I'll make you a build later today
[QUOTE=Odellus;24647151]I'll make you a build later today[/QUOTE] Thanks. I appreciate it. You seem to know what you're doing in these parts.
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Damn dude. Why the 920W?
No clue. Still not sure why the 480 is the best choice at 1920x1080 but I'm looking into it. Those things are hot as hell from what I've read.
[QUOTE=ghostofme;24656829]Damn dude. Why the 920W?[/QUOTE] why not [editline]10:06PM[/editline] he still has room in his budget and I tried to make it so all the components are pretty even on performance and quality [editline]10:12PM[/editline] and the PSU is one of the only things you can truly future proof, so
[QUOTE=DaDillsta;24657047]No clue. Still not sure why the 480 is the best choice at 1920x1080 but I'm looking into it. Those things are hot as hell from what I've read.[/QUOTE] Over-exaggerations
[QUOTE=DaDillsta;24657047]No clue. Still not sure why the 480 is the best choice at 1920x1080 but I'm looking into it. Those things are hot as hell from what I've read.[/QUOTE] 480 is the best choice because your budget allows for it and because it's the fastest single GPU solution out right now, just turn the fan up if the temperatures scare you, 470s get around the same temperatures on auto fan
Could I switch the PSU to something like: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371022[/url] I want to make room for a few extra things and that seems like it would run a single GTX480, i5-750 setup fine.
Antec is good But I would get a corsair 750 then
I was looking at this one: [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=Corsair%20750TX"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=Corsair%20750TX[/URL] What are the advantages?
They're both good quality, get the Corsair one, since it's cheaper
if you're going to spend that much just get [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194019&cm_re=enermax-_-17-194-019-_-Product]this[/url]. It's $20 more, modular and outputs more power than you could possibly need.
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[QUOTE=Odellus;24670255]if you're going to spend that much just get [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194019&cm_re=enermax-_-17-194-019-_-Product"]this[/URL]. It's $20 more, modular and outputs more power than you could possibly need.[/QUOTE] That's a great deal for a reputable 1000w PSU, but... [quote] This 1000W unit has five +12V rails to power workstation and server class systems, or [b]today’s average gaming rig[/b][/quote] I wasn't aware that the average gaming rig these days ran a tri-SLI with 480s. [editline]03:43PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ritzick;24670659]This build is solid, but I would go with a 1000watt psu, just because 920 seems like an odd number, however that is a pretty dumb reason[/QUOTE] That build isn't even going to get close to drawing 600w under load. The OP could easily go with a lesser PSU(I'd personally go with a 650HX or something to that effect) with no issues.
[QUOTE=Undomian;24670745]That's a great deal for a reputable 1000w PSU, but... I wasn't aware that the average gaming rig these days ran a tri-SLI with 480s. [editline]03:43PM[/editline] That build isn't even going to get close to drawing 600w under load. The OP could easily go with a lesser PSU(I'd personally go with a 650HX or something to that effect) with no issues.[/QUOTE] Yeah it does seem a little heavy but wouldn't OCing both CPU and GPU take a bit of load. Granted, I'm not going with a huge OC on either but probably will pull a little more juice than stock. And if I decided later on to SLi 480's than it would contain them. I still think 1000W is too much for even that but yeah I see the point, but it is about as cheap as the 750W's I was looking at. Is that case good enough size-wise for the 1000W power supply and 480? I hear the Cooler Master ATCS 840 cools fine and seems a bit bigger being a full-tower case. And it's still aluminum. Not to mention it comes out to actually being cheaper once shipping is factored in. I'm not good with case choosing though, this rig started out with a shitty $20 case that was really flimsy then I moved up to an Antec 300 Black Illusion.
Here's where I'm getting my info for 480 power draw. [URL]http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/1704/12/4-way-sli-geforce-gtx-480-test-stroomverbruik[/URL] Even with a bit of overclocking, a lesser PSU will do fine. Both of those cases will fit all of your parts well, and both are very nice. In the end, its pretty much down to whether you want a full tower or a mid tower and the aesthetic that you like the most.
[QUOTE=Odellus;24670255]if you're going to spend that much just get [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194019&cm_re=enermax-_-17-194-019-_-Product]this[/url]. It's $20 more, modular and outputs more power than you could possibly need.[/QUOTE] Are you an idiot ? This PSU is overkill [editline]10:21PM[/editline] [QUOTE=DaDillsta;24657921]Could I switch the PSU to something like: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371022[/url] [/QUOTE] Very good choice, mate. Go for it
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