Maybe because the phone evolved into the perfect shape for a smartphone? Not like I would ever buy a round phone.
This is like asking why all TVs look the same.
Mechanical parts break, those slide phones only last so long before the stop sliding properly or outright break. That rolled up scroll like phone Samsung prototyped will never be practical in the real world cause it's not going to take much to get it filled with crud and jam it up.
In the near future phones will just be glass slabs like what we have now but with no holes or buttons
[QUOTE=RichyZ;53156472]phones with irreplaceable batteries tend to have the battery go under before any of my sliding old phones physically worn out[/QUOTE]
Irreplaceable batteries are really not that big of an issue as people think nowadays, to be honest.
Phones nowadays can easily last two years before their battery's capacity becomes noticeably decreased. A majority of people is fine with just getting a new phone at this point, since their contracts permits them an upgrade around this time.
If you do feel the necessity for the battery to be replaced instead, most major manufacturers offer battery replacement service at a pretty reasonable cost, $45 for the Samsung Galaxy S8 as an example. Granted you do have to send your phone in for this process, but the cost is not too much higher than what you would've paid and waited for a genuine battery to come into the mail.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;53158225]
Phones from 5 years ago looked better and had a much more pleasing UX/UI than phones today
[thumb]https://images.anandtech.com/doci/6754/HTC One_Silver_3V.jpg[/thumb] [thumb]http://www.nokioteca.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Nokia-N9-download-1.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE]
Honestly, HTC's UI is the only exception that can be made. Most OEM UIs looked and functioned far worse back then than now
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;53157425]Irreplaceable batteries are really not that big of an issue as people think nowadays, to be honest.
Phones nowadays can easily last two years before their battery's capacity becomes noticeably decreased. A majority of people is fine with just getting a new phone at this point, since their contracts permits them an upgrade around this time.
If you do feel the necessity for the battery to be replaced instead, most major manufacturers offer battery replacement service at a pretty reasonable cost, $45 for the Samsung Galaxy S8 as an example. Granted you do have to send your phone in for this process, but the cost is not too much higher than what you would've paid and waited for a genuine battery to come into the mail.[/QUOTE]
This is so stupid. It's a battery. Everything that has batteries has replaceable batteries. Except phones. The argument is Oh a removable battery means we have to sacrifice something. And that argument is a load of shit. It's just another way to make money off of people, plain and simple. If they WANTED to have a removable battery AND water resistance or a sleek design, they could absolutely do that. And it's absolutely ridiculous that you'd have to send your phone away for up to 2 weeks to get it done, too, in some cases
How ridiculous would it be to send your PC in to replace the CMOS battery, your car in to replace its battery, your TV remote, your wireless headset or mouse, your smoke detectors, and the list goes on. I don't know why people put up with it with phones. If my phone works and the hardware is just fine, I'd like to keep using it. Not toss it when the battery stops holding a charge
Luckily "Non replaceable" for my phone just means I'd have to unhook the battery from a connector and then pry it off the glue that keeps it secure, and I can buy a battery for it for $10.
The Nokia Lumia was really good about this. You pop the back off, can pull the battery right out and place another in, easier than a damn TV remote
Design has just moved towards being less and less visible. The iPhone X looks like an S8, and that's because they're converging on the same thing - screen real estate. While Symbian was a failure, personally I think Nokia's hardware design is underappreciated:
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[QUOTE=B!N4RY;53157425]Irreplaceable batteries are really not that big of an issue as people think nowadays, to be honest.
Phones nowadays can easily last [B]two years[/B] before their battery's capacity becomes noticeably decreased. A majority of people is fine with just getting a new phone at this point, since their contracts permits them an upgrade around this time.
If you do feel the necessity for the battery to be replaced instead, most major manufacturers offer battery replacement service at a pretty reasonable cost, $45 for the Samsung Galaxy S8 as an example. Granted you do have to send your phone in for this process, but the cost is not too much higher than what you would've paid and waited for a genuine battery to come into the mail.[/QUOTE]
Jesus. You know shits gone south when having a phone last for two years is considered an accomplishment. I got my first phone when I was 7, I'm 27 now and I've only gotten my fourth phone in the last year. I want my phone to last.
I'll never understand people who get a new phone every year, tech does not advance quickly enough to justify that shit.
how can you make a device that's just pure screen look that distinctive outside of the border around the screen, and the back
it's all the same basic logical design
Like sure on certain special ones we see a lot of different ideas because they have a certain purpose, but you can't go very far with "black, glossy, thin"
Smartphones all look alike for the same reason everything else in this modern world looks alike: Everything's designed by computers for a given task. Cars all look the same because they're designed to cut through the air with ease, which doesn't allow much wiggle room. Phones look the same because they're all designed to maximinize screen size and minimize bezel size.
There is an optimal design for every task and, at this point, we're approaching that design in most things.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;53159069]Jesus. You know shits gone south when having a phone last for two years is considered an accomplishment. I got my first phone when I was 7, I'm 27 now and I've only gotten my fourth phone in the last year. I want my phone to last.
I'll never understand people who get a new phone every year, tech does not advance quickly enough to justify that shit.[/QUOTE]
...I get a new phone every two years because I have to get a new phone every two years on account of the pieces of shit barely working at that point. Fucking poorly built, planned-to-be-obsolete garbage. One I have now? Screen's cracked, falling off. USB port works oonnnlllyyy if you have your tongue at the right angle, so it often fails to charge despite being plugged in. GPS has NEVER worked properly. I can't use it as a phone unless it's on speaker because one of the microphones doesn't work. The battery life is atrocious on some days and stellar on others. And it likes to do shit I don't tell it to do. What's the point of even having a lock screen if my wallet can unlock it and text people?!
[QUOTE=TheTalon;53158690]The argument is Oh a removable battery means we have to sacrifice something. And that argument is a load of shit. It's just another way to make money off of people, plain and simple. [B]If they WANTED to have a removable battery AND water resistance or a sleek design, they could absolutely do that.[/B][/QUOTE]
Except that is the reason why the current modern phones lack removable batteries. You can only excels in two of three between removable battery, water proofing, and a sleek design; but having all three would require compromises.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;53159069]Jesus. You know shits gone south when having a phone last for two years is considered an accomplishment.
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I'll never understand people who get a new phone every year, tech does not advance quickly enough to justify that shit.[/B][/QUOTE]
The point here is that most people on contracts are eligible for a new phone upgrade every two years, and most people stops caring about their old phones after upgrading. It's not about "boasting" two years being a long life expectancy.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;53159531]Except that is the reason why the current modern phones lack removable batteries. You can only excels in two of three between removable battery, water proofing, and a sleek design; but having all three would require compromises.
The point here is that most people on contracts are eligible for a new phone upgrade every two years, and most people stops caring about their old phones after upgrading. It's not about "boasting" two years being a long life expectancy.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that modern smartphones are so shoddily built that we're [I]forced[/I] into the upgrade cycle simply because the old phone barely works at all when upgrade time rolls around. If they made phones properly I guarantee there'd be a massive drop in people upgrading at the ends of their contracts. I certainly wouldn't, modern smartphones are more than powerful enough to run any app I want to run on them so on that basis I have no reason to upgrade.
If my phone was skookum I certainly wouldn't be looking to upgrade it, but as it is the damn thing barely works at all. If my choice is another 2 years of 'cracked screen held on with tape, no satnav, wonky USB port that barely allows charging, battery that can't make its mind up between lasting ten minutes or ten days, a camera that was once crystal clear but would now embarrass one of those very first camera-enabled Nokias from the early 2000s, and general instability' or 'upgrade to new phone' it's....not really a choice, is it? And that's by design. The people making these things stand to lose a fuckton of recurring revenue if they build phones properly. So instead they build them to last two years, which is the upgrade cycle, thus meaning people [I]have[/I] to upgrade when they renew their contract or else their phone quits working entirely.
Oh, and I also forgot to mention that both the mSD and SIM slots in my phone are wonky as well. You look at the SIM slot funny and the phone loses contact with the SIM card. And the mSD slot? It's working now but for 3-4 months after I got the thing it wouldn't read cards properly and even today if I take the card out it's a month before it decides to read it anew.
[QUOTE=TestECull;53159698]The problem is that modern smartphones are so shoddily built that we're [I]forced[/I] into the upgrade cycle simply because the old phone barely works at all when upgrade time rolls around. If they made phones properly I guarantee there'd be a massive drop in people upgrading at the ends of their contracts. I certainly wouldn't, modern smartphones are more than powerful enough to run any app I want to run on them so on that basis I have no reason to upgrade.
If my phone was skookum I certainly wouldn't be looking to upgrade it, but as it is the damn thing barely works at all. If my choice is another 2 years of 'cracked screen held on with tape, no satnav, wonky USB port that barely allows charging, battery that can't make its mind up between lasting ten minutes or ten days, a camera that was once crystal clear but would now embarrass one of those very first camera-enabled Nokias from the early 2000s, and general instability' or 'upgrade to new phone' it's....not really a choice, is it? And that's by design. The people making these things stand to lose a fuckton of recurring revenue if they build phones properly. So instead they build them to last two years, which is the upgrade cycle, thus meaning people [I]have[/I] to upgrade when they renew their contract or else their phone quits working entirely.
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What phone is that and what the [i]fuck[/i] do you do with it that it's so shit.
When the smartphones started, I went through iPhone 4, then in 4 years through LG G3, then through 4 years got myself a Galaxy S7 rocking already for almost a year. None of the problems you ever listed I had on either iPhone or Android. Literally I have had no problems with any phone. I only switched when the upgrades were substantial, but I'd definitely live a bit more with my LG G3 if I was too poor to afford a new phone.
[QUOTE=CruelAddict;53159731]What phone is that[/quote]
Blackberry PRIV.
[quote] and what the [i]fuck[/i] do you do with it that it's so shit.[/quote]
Use it? Honestly it's the worst built smartphone I've ever had. I've put it through nothing I haven't put any other phone through and it, by far, has held up the worst. My old Droid 3 still works, but its processor's too shit to run the apps I want to run and its battery has no capacity left. If it wasn't for those issues I'd probably have gone back to it ages ago. It dealt with the same exact environment this one has and shrugged it all off. Suffice it to say I'm not getting another Blackberry. As nice as the PRIV was when it was new, the thing's such a fragile piece of shit that I'm not getting another. I want the most durable thing my network will allow to connect and the PRIV is [B]not[/B] durable.
Good phone for an office drone, is what I'd call it. But I'm not an office drone. I'm a shop rat.
Modern phones just aren't built very well, is all it is. The knowledge to build a durable smartphone exists, I have several of them in my junk drawer, but building them right means people don't upgrade every 2 years, and [I]that[/I] means decreased revenue for smartphone manufacturers. They have no incentive to build them any better since enough people change out every 2 years anyway that any lifespan beyond that point is wasted. You see it in every facet of modern life, it's a side effect of the consumerist society we live in. Your car, your TV, your fridge, your phone, every single item you buy is built to die, because the company that made it stands to make more money selling you one that lasts a few years at most on the hope that you'll buy the latest model from them when that one wears out/dies than selling you one that lasts for a few decades.
It's not even a new thing. IT started [I]decades ago.[/I] Ever wonder why incandescent light bulbs almost universally last roughly 1,000 hours? IT's by design. They used to last much longer than that, but around the late 20s/early 30s light bulb companies realized that they'd make more money by selling bulbs that lasted a 'reasonable' amount of time. It's...starting to happen again with LED bulbs, they're purposefully building them shittily so some random passive in the power supply zonks out and causes the LED bulb to die long before the LEDs themselves wear down.
[QUOTE=TestECull;53159788]Blackberry PRIV.
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There is your answer.
Strong hardware
Removable battery
Water resistant
Pick 2
[QUOTE=J!NX;53160047]Strong hardware
Removable battery
Water resistant
Pick 2[/QUOTE]
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Phew, that was hard.
batteries in phones should be replaceable because the concept of a phone being something disposable is a disgusting display of excess for no real purpose
I think a big part is that tech journalists seem to keep an iPhone checklist on their desk when they're reviewing phones. Whenever I'm looking for a new phone, the reviews almost invariably shit all over anything that has <90% screen space, anything thicker than like 6 mm, and any surface that isn't glossy. It feels like most phone reviews are there to tell you how good of an iPhone (phone that isn't an iPhone) is, rather than focus on any other merits that people like me might be looking for. It's going to impact sales if every tech site is panning your phone for falling a god damn micrometer outside of their very rigid idea of what good phone design is, so why risk it when it's safer to just make an iPhone, but with android on it.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;53159531]Except that is the reason why the current modern phones lack removable batteries. You can only excels in two of three between removable battery, water proofing, and a sleek design; but having all three would require compromises.
The point here is that most people on contracts are eligible for a new phone upgrade every two years, and most people stops caring about their old phones after upgrading. It's not about "boasting" two years being a long life expectancy.[/QUOTE]
This is true. I prefer removable batteries, but I understand why they went for non-removable, as there's this obsession with making phones as thin as possible. I remember I bought a 3,200mAH battery for my Galaxy S 2, with an extended cover, and I just adored the additional longevity of the device. It looked kinda bad, but the back had a grippy surface, whereas the Galaxy S 8+ I have is always sliding off into an abyss when I have it on my lap, or something. It's insanely slippery, like, WTF?
If it wasn't for the fact that I get a free phone every time I renew my contract I wouldn't bother upgrading my S7. Its a perfectly good phone still since I fucking protected my expensive, important, used every day device with a equally expensive phone case.
People who have cracked screens have no sympathy from me because they didn't buy decent protection for their $1000 investment. You put insurance on your car for if you get in an accident
[QUOTE=TestECull;53159698]The problem is that modern smartphones are so shoddily built that we're [I]forced[/I] into the upgrade cycle simply because the old phone barely works at all when upgrade time rolls around. If they made phones properly I guarantee there'd be a massive drop in people upgrading at the ends of their contracts. I certainly wouldn't, modern smartphones are more than powerful enough to run any app I want to run on them so on that basis I have no reason to upgrade. [/QUOTE]
Um wtf are you talking about? ALL high end phones form major manufacturers I've used in the past works perfectly fine years after I've purchased them and I have never heard of mass complaints either. Sure battery goes bad and they stopped receiving software updates, but that's expected for all phones nonetheless. The only people who ever complains about their phones not being "durable" enough are those who takes zero cares of their devices, doesn't ever use a case, and drops the phone 3 times a day. In this case, it's more a problem of user than anyone else.
[QUOTE=TestECull;53159788]Blackberry PRIV.[/QUOTE]
lol well that answers everything.
Don't buy a shoddy phone in the first place from a dying company, maybe then you wont' be having so much problem with "build quality".
Companies just stopped being bold.
Why spend money on something that will not sell, because people expect iPhone/Samsung design? Why develop gimmicks what will not be recognised anyway?
10 years back everyone laughed at the idea of a phone with only one fron hardware button, 8 years ago the idea of a massive 4.7 phone with wacom stylus looked absurd. But they both sold so well they still persist now. But there were more ideas back then, some of which return now in a more refined form (big screens in smaller body, double cameras, metal and glass design...)
But now, it seems like only Apple and Samsung do something interesting, and everyone else just tries to follow suit.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;53160984]But now, it seems like only Apple and Samsung do something interesting, and everyone else just tries to follow suit.[/QUOTE]
I really do think LG is onto something with the home button on the back though. It feels intuitive and I don't see why others don't try the same thing
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;53160657]Um wtf are you talking about? ALL high end phones form major manufacturers I've used in the past works perfectly fine years after I've purchased them and I have never heard of mass complaints either. Sure battery goes bad and they stopped receiving software updates, but that's expected for all phones nonetheless. The only people who ever complains about their phones not being "durable" enough are those who takes zero cares of their devices, doesn't ever use a case, and drops the phone 3 times a day. In this case, it's more a problem of user than anyone else.
lol well that answers everything.
Don't buy a shoddy phone in the first place from a dying company, maybe then you wont' be having so much problem with "build quality".[/QUOTE]
If you need to put a case on your phone and baby it for it to last two years you've bought a piece of shit. And, hey, guess what? [I]That's how you have to treat every smartphone.[/I]
A good phone is one that can survive without a case. You know, like cell phones from 10 years ago did. Moto Rzr aside, you generally didn't need cases, screen protectors and the like to keep a dumbphone alive. Fuckin' things didn't give a shit, could drop a bomb on 'em and they'd shrug it off. Smartphones? Butterfly farts on it and the damn screen cracks. The fact that you need two or three layers of aftermarket armor plating just so the pieces of shit literally don't fall apart over their laughably short lifespans is disgusting, it's proof positive they don't build these things very well at all, that they intend for them to be almost unuseable right around the time we are up for upgrade. And, hell, want more proof? [I]Non-User-Replaceable Batteries that lose all their capacity in just a year and a half.[/I] Even if you are meticulous and perfect about caring for your smartphone it's still going to become an unuseable pile of shit right around the time your contract is up for renewal, because they figure...correctly so, for the most part...that rather than paying $150+ to have a service center replace the $15 battery they'll just trade it in on the next model.
It's disgusting and wasteful. But, hey, keep right on blaming it on the user while blindly accepting whatever these tech giant shit out every billing cycle. I'm sure that'll do wonders to change it phone build quality and durability! /s
Why shouldn't they look the same? There's nothing wrong with modern phone design, so why should anyone try to change it?
[QUOTE=TestECull;53163262]If you need to put a case on your phone and baby it for it to last two years you've bought a piece of shit. And, hey, guess what? [I]That's how you have to treat every smartphone.[/I]
A good phone is one that can survive without a case. You know, like cell phones from 10 years ago did. Moto Rzr aside, you generally didn't need cases, screen protectors and the like to keep a dumbphone alive. Fuckin' things didn't give a shit, could drop a bomb on 'em and they'd shrug it off. Smartphones? Butterfly farts on it and the damn screen cracks. [/QUOTE]
Phones 10 years ago didn't really have ~6" flat panels of glass on the front, there's not much you can do to make a thin piece of a material that's already brittle any tougher.
And in the 18 years or so of me owning phones I've never dropped any of them a single time so uh, maybe just stop being a klutz and take care of your expensive electronics more than not at all
[QUOTE=TestECull;53163262]If you need to put a case on your phone and baby it for it to last two years you've bought a piece of shit. And, hey, guess what? [I]That's how you have to treat every smartphone.[/I]
A good phone is one that can survive without a case.[/QUOTE]
If you judge a smartphone solely on how well it survives a fall, and thinks spending $15 on a case and screen protector is pointless to passively protect your $700 device, then you most definitely are an irresponsible owner.
I rarely drop my phone, and this is achieved simply by not leaving my phone out carelessly (eg, shallow coat pockets, edges of tables, or using it at obviously risky situations like walk on ice). If you consider this as "babying", then you are indeed quite irresponsible.
[QUOTE=TestECull;53163262]You know, like cell phones from 10 years ago did. Moto Rzr aside, you generally didn't need cases, screen protectors and the like to keep a dumbphone alive. Fuckin' things didn't give a shit, could drop a bomb on 'em and they'd shrug it off. Smartphones? Butterfly farts on it and the damn screen cracks. [/QUOTE]
It is unfortunate that phones do not survive physical traumas as well as it did 10 years ago. However, this is also due to a significant shift in how phones are now used compared to then (ie, much more integrated with our lives), which also drove a fundamentally different design philosophy. People prefer to have much larger screens and slimmer formfactor than 10 years ago, and it's just not possible to keep the same level of physical durability anymore (even without the whole "full glass body" designs).
Nontheless, If you exercise some very basic care like I stated, most high-end phones will not fall apart on their own unless you've neglected them. If you feel the need to generalize every smartphone as poorly build, chances are you should probably reflect on how you're handling them.
[QUOTE=TestECull;53163262]And, hell, want more proof? [I]Non-User-Replaceable Batteries that lose all their capacity in just a year and a half.[/I] Even if you are meticulous and perfect about caring for your smartphone it's still going to become an unuseable pile of shit right around the time your contract is up for renewal, because they figure...correctly so, for the most part...that rather than paying $150+ to have a service center replace the $15 battery they'll just trade it in on the next model.[/QUOTE]
Your uncited, out of context quote of "[I]Non-User-Replaceable Batteries that lose all their capacity in just a year and a half[/I]" does not prove anything, and this statement seem to be rather arbitrary. I've already made my argument about why I think non-replaceable batteries is merely just a nuisance earlier in this thread, and it addresses all of what you wrote already.
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