Just seen this on Hack a Day, it seems pretty awesome.
You buy a lcd for the iPad 3 for £40, and a $14 pcb and do some soldering and then you can connect it to a displayport cable.
[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-onnwDcR463E/UXRoN8092eI/AAAAAAAAAkg/3BVEO6rbxVA/s1600/maps.jpg[/IMG]
[URL="http://emerythacks.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/connecting-ipad-retina-lcd-to-pc.html"]http://emerythacks.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/connecting-ipad-retina-lcd-to-pc.html[/URL]
Looks nice but I have no idea how to make PCBs.
If there was a commercially available PCB to do this I would pretty much instantly get it.
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Shit you could make a 2*3 array of these reasonably cheaply.
[QUOTE=rhx123;40388561]Looks nice but I have no idea how to make PCBs.
If there was a commercially available PCB to do this I would pretty much instantly get it.
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Shit you could make a 2*3 array of these reasonably cheaply.[/QUOTE]
The guy said he is going to make some PCB's to sell,
And you could do an array + virtually no bezel
Buy nine of those and assemble a super-monitor
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30 inches, 6144 x 4608 :v:
I'd imagine its not calibrated like the ones in the iPad but jeez. I once set up my retina iPad as a wireless display but it was never usable for gaming or anything with the latency. Would love an array of these.
The iPad3 retina display is only £40 :suicide:
[QUOTE=Djessey;40389235]The iPad3 retina display is only £40 :suicide:[/QUOTE]
wow really?
[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;40389336]wow really?[/QUOTE]
That's what it states in the OP.
Oh yeah, stupid me, I wonder where all the money on developing them goes :v:
I thought this was going to be a typo, but it totally looks legit. I might do it.
Now this would be nice if someone can come up with a similar solution with any high res smartphone screen
If these screens are so damn cheap I don't see why any monitor producer makes a decent fucking 24-27-30 inch screen with that resolution for a CHEAP price (200USD~) I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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And yes I clearly understand that Apple is able to produce them for a bit cheaper since they BUY IN BULK to understate it a bit.
[QUOTE=Djessey;40389946]If these screens are so damn cheap I don't see why any monitor producer makes a decent fucking 24-27-30 inch screen with that resolution for a CHEAP price (200USD~) I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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And yes I clearly understand that Apple is able to produce them for a bit cheaper since they BUY IN BULK to understate it a bit.[/QUOTE]
AFAIK it's to do with the panel size that increases the cost, not particularly the resolution.
From what I can see, there's a fair increase in price between 21.5 1920x1080 vs 27 1920x1080, well way beyond the basic BOM cost.
I think larger panels also have a higher chance of having a poorer yield too.
Project time bitches
[QUOTE=Djessey;40389946]If these screens are so damn cheap I don't see why any monitor producer makes a decent fucking 24-27-30 inch screen with that resolution for a CHEAP price (200USD~) I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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And yes I clearly understand that Apple is able to produce them for a bit cheaper since they BUY IN BULK to understate it a bit.[/QUOTE]
Bulk, certifications, legal problems etc.
I wouldn't be surprised if they just threw some displays at Apple and then when Apple got all the certifications that their product isn't breaking any laws, and isn't dangerous, the display was just considered as part of the package.
Sure, they would still check that everything is OK with the display itself, but at this point, it's Apple getting the damn thing certified, it's them paying the fees.
And when you're making screens, then you all of a sudden have to write OSD software, you have to get different PCBs to drive the display, to handle all the logic, to handle various inputs, you probably need to get some speakers for those people that still use built-in speakers on the screen, you might not have the manufacturing equipment to produce the plastic frames so you need to outsource those, so you need to make contracts and get lawyers...
Producing a single part is hard. Producing a complete product is just absolutely fucking insane, especially when you can just get a contract with a big company, make that part for them, get a good margin and absolutely massive volume.
Someone should make these and resell them. I'd totally buy one prebuilt for a little extra.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;40390236]What the actual fuck, if they can make these displays for that price then why does every laptop come with a cancerous 15.1" 1366x768 panel?[/QUOTE]
Because windows works terribly with DPI scaling, and even with flawless eyesight I find my laptop's 13" 1600x900 display uncomfortable sometimes for web browsing and programming (aka 90% of the reason I got a high resolution display)
You can also use a [url=http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Google-Nexus-10-LCD-and-Digitizer-Assembly-p-24377.html]Nexus 10 screen[/url] for slightly more (about the same size and resolution). It includes the touch screen part of the screen, so a savy-enough person could make a touchscreen monitor.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;40397194]You can also use a [url=http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Google-Nexus-10-LCD-and-Digitizer-Assembly-p-24377.html]Nexus 10 screen[/url] for slightly more (same size and resolution). It includes the touch screen part of the screen, so a savy-enough person could make a touchscreen monitor.[/QUOTE]
The Nexus 10 is actually higher resolution and it's not really the same size since it's .4" bigger but on a 16:10 screen rather than 4:3. Also if these are iPad panels that are getting tuned at the factory they're going to be a lot better for stuff like photo and video editing.
The backlight looks a bit uneven or is that just the angle?
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;40397042]Because windows works terribly with DPI scaling, and even with flawless eyesight I find my laptop's 13" 1600x900 display uncomfortable sometimes for web browsing and programming (aka 90% of the reason I got a high resolution display)[/QUOTE]
I found using the 1080p Zenbook, even on Windows 8, to be absolutely terrible. Microsoft isn't going to be catching up to Apple's method of DPI scaling anytime soon since they don't have the benefit of making their own devices with 4x the pixels of some other device they already made.
Now if only VGA or DVI to displayport converter weren't fukken' expensive.
(and displayport to vga or dvi adapters are useless and only one-way adapters)
[url]http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/th2go/displayport/[/url]
Aww yeah, 3 of those and a gfx with 3 Displayports + 9 screens & 9 pcb's with power supply circuit.
Someone should design a board with ESD protection on the displayport line, and with regulated power supply for the panel, and a regulated adjustable power supply for the backlight.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;40399316]Does it even use the same format[/QUOTE]
Would require the datasheet for the display panel.
Obviously Samsung manufactures the panel, but that's all I know.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;40399193]I found using the 1080p Zenbook, even on Windows 8, to be absolutely terrible. Microsoft isn't going to be catching up to Apple's method of DPI scaling anytime soon since they don't have the benefit of making their own devices with 4x the pixels of some other device they already made.[/QUOTE]
Nah, I think Microsoft could fix the DPI stuff if they really wanted to. Developers probably wouldn't catch on, though, unless the high DPI market became much larger, which isn't probable since Microsoft and developers don't fix their DPI stuff, which they don't do because.. etc.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;40400382]Nah, I think Microsoft could fix the DPI stuff if they really wanted to. Developers probably wouldn't catch on, though, unless the high DPI market became much larger, which isn't probable since Microsoft and developers don't fix their DPI stuff, which they don't do because.. etc.[/QUOTE]
Maybe with a ton of effort. But [url=http://techreport.com/news/22683/windows-8-to-scale-with-high-dpi-tablets]they said they improved it for Win8 but it still sucks.[/url]
Datasheet for the ipad retina panel:
[url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/LP097QX1-SPA1.pdf[/url] (original korean)
[url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/LP097QX1-SPA1_translated_poorly.pdf[/url] (Google translated to English version)
[QUOTE=Kaabii;40400715]Maybe with a ton of effort. But [url=http://techreport.com/news/22683/windows-8-to-scale-with-high-dpi-tablets]they said they improved it for Win8 but it still sucks.[/url][/QUOTE]
By "improved" they mean that it now requires a 1024x768 or 1280x800 resolution screen or better. Even at 1280x720 Windows 8 won't let you launch most applications because of resolution scaling. Even applications like Chrome won't launch unless you do it in administrative mode.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;40410347]By "improved" they mean that it now requires a 1024x768 or 1280x800 resolution screen or better. Even at 1280x720 Windows 8 won't let you launch most applications because of resolution scaling. Even applications like Chrome won't launch unless you do it in administrative mode.[/QUOTE]
No that isn't what they meant. They specifically mentioned HD and WQXGA which is 1920x1080 and 2560x1600, and they put them at 11.6". Yet if you've used a 1080p Zenbook you'll know how fonts can get completely mangled at high DPI, so they really don't support a 11.6" 1920x1080 display like their info graphic implies at all. It really has nothing to do with any given resolution whatsoever, it has to do with a resolution and a panel size to get a density of pixels per centimetre or inch.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;40400715]Maybe with a ton of effort. But [url=http://techreport.com/news/22683/windows-8-to-scale-with-high-dpi-tablets]they said they improved it for Win8 but it still sucks.[/url][/QUOTE]
The Metro side of things is great (afaic), the desktop side, not so much. I think Microsoft could make its OS resolution independent, they'd just have to be consistent. When you enable scaling in Windows, it's almost always the third party programs making trouble.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;40410632]The Metro side of things is great (afaic), the desktop side, not so much. I think Microsoft could make its OS resolution independent, they'd just have to be consistent. When you enable scaling in Windows, it's almost always the third party programs making trouble.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://techreport.com/review/23631/how-windows-8-scaling-fails-on-high-ppi-displays/]No.[/url]
It's terrible and so bad compared to OSX it can't even be put into words. It even happens in their own browser, so it definitely isn't just third party programs. Text in the news app is too small, because they're not treating the high density as a tool to make text sharper, they're using it to display more information. They honestly didn't even try, or they just have no idea what they're doing. People don't want a 240ppi monitor to display minuscule text not legible without a microscope, they want it for sharper text.
If you try to fix it, everything including metro, gets too big to be comfortable. Plus the artifacting is still there. It's just terrible.
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