• Display Driver Problems (yup, it's THAT problem once again)
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so, everyone has had it happen at some point in their life. you're using the computer, but suddenly, your mouse freezes and within a couple of seconds, your computer monitor goes black / turns off. then within seconds, your screen either turns back on and you can continue work (albeit an error message in the right corner of your screen, saying that the video drivers has crashed and been regained) or you get the infamous blue screen of death. I've had these problems for roughly a month now. I've tried literally everything to get it to work again. It usually just freezes and I have to hold the boot button down to make it close down. Things I've tried -de-dusting the system, -updated the display drivers (duh), -updated Flash, reinstalled Chrome because it pretty much only happens when I start a YouTube video / YouTube is in the background somewhere. -removed tons of programs I never / rarely used that I installed before the bluescreening began, -defragged hdd, cleaned up, -scanned computer for malware / other viruses but nothing seems to have shown up. The graphic cards are x2 ATi Radeon HD 5800 Series. A bit old but performs nicely (when it performs, that is). I have a picture of the blue screen here. Reading up on the stop code, seems to be just the display drivers crashing and not being able to fire up again before the timeout is over (think the timeout is 5 seconds, if it doesn't get connection to the drivers within 5 seconds, it sends the stop error blue screen and that's about it. [img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8030/7982394379_8a05102691_b.jpg[/img] [editline]edit[/editline] other stuff that happens when the drivers crash. This kind of stuff only happens rarely though, but sure does happen. [img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8309/7982400249_a14377720f_b.jpg[/img] [img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8439/7982403270_8f9382d845_b.jpg[/img] [editline]edit[/editline] Here's some food for thought. I can actually not open the AMD Catalyst Control thing when right clicking. It just loads but does nothing.
Think it might be related to overheating. When the computer crashes / when I turn it on again, a blue light near the graphics card will start blinking violently. There's two text prints on the board with the lamp, one saying "GFX_PUMP" and another one saying "GFX_TEMP". Are there any good temp measuring programs out there? Thought my posts would merge, but apparently not. Oh well.
Use HWmonitor to measure temps
Had the exact same problem. I couldn't find a solution to it. The eventual solution was to just replace the card.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;37651476]Had the exact same problem. I couldn't find a solution to it. The eventual solution was to just replace the card.[/QUOTE] Fuck. Alright, going to check the temps. The GFX_TEMP was blinking near the two cards, so I'm still thinking that the errors happen due to overheating. [editline]edit[/editline] Cleaned it out with canned air a bit more today. Gave the fans and the cards a goos turn of nice cold air and a lot of dust came out. Going to install Speedfan or HWmonitor to check the temps. [editline]13th September 2012[/editline] Right, here's what HWMonitor throws out. Anything suspicious looking here? These are idling temps, pretty much. The computer had been off for ~1½ hours before turning it on. Was idling for 15 minutes before I took the screencap. [img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8031/7983250029_1172a3f7a8_b.jpg[/img]
Right, testing stuff now. This is what makes me uneasy. I've had GMod running for 10 minutes now, exactly. The temps shot really quicly up from what was 43 celcius at max before, which was now 76 at max, after [b]10 minutes[/b]. I heard no difference in the RPM of the fans. Maybe that's because it's also watercooled, though I would think that the fans should up themself a bit. [img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8313/7983505267_5f55ecd657_b.jpg[/img] Also why does it say that all my fans are running at 100% when they clearly aren't? I'm guessing that my sensors for the fans might be broken. [editline]13th September 2012[/editline] I have also, within the last half year noticed that when I use the computer for a longer period of time with GMod opened, the whole system will start to stutter eventually. Meaning it feels like everything runs at 12 FPS or so, except for the mouse. I thought it was just something with Steam but maybe it's been overheating all the time, and that I've caused some shit to happen due to me not thinking it could have been too hot.
hwmonitor sometimes doesn't like certain mobos on my old one, it used to report that the 12v rail was putting out 7v (pssst: the computer wouldn't work with that number) how high do your temps get when it crashes to black screen? Those don't look that bad
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;37654012]hwmonitor sometimes doesn't like certain mobos on my old one, it used to report that the 12v rail was putting out 7v (pssst: the computer wouldn't work with that number) how high do your temps get when it crashes to black screen? Those don't look that bad[/QUOTE] Still haven't tested how high I can go before freezing / bluescreening but I would personally say that the graphics card being 76 degrees celcius after 9-10 minutes of GMod is a bit frightening, because it just kept on climbing until my Windows began to stutter at 12 FPS. I couldn't even hear the fans spin at any other rate than the idling rate. Let me just find this version so that you can see it all. [img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8177/7983614504_08e9b473e1_b.jpg[/img] Check the temps at the red arrow for one of the two crossfired graphics cards. The first one didn't raise too much in temps while the other card skyrocketed (could be because Source doesn't work properly with Crossfire?). It would keep climbing if I didn't turn GMod off at 76 celcius. [editline]13th September 2012[/editline] Also this is that blue blinking light at the GFX_TEMP / GFX_PUMP that I was talking about. [img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8450/7983631413_72117331a3_b.jpg[/img] [img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8313/7983646499_6524fc992c_b.jpg[/img] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La5GKlwV7nw[/media] The video was taken right after it had crashed and had just restarted on my desktop screen. I was copying files over to my other HDD because I'm genuinely scared some shit is going to happen to my system and it also started getting really hot at that point, making that blue light flash. [editline]edit[/editline] worth saying that I had not de-dusted it when the video was shot, just de-dusted most of it today and it's all shiny now.
Just going to give a quick update, seems like the freezing has nothing to do with high temps. I fired up the computer as I got home, running temps were on all parts of the computer between 27-40 degrees celcius. I turn up GMod, let it idle for 30 seconds in GMod and bam, freeze. Just froze. Could it be a problem with GMod? I've had it happen a rare amount of times while GMod was not running. Going to try and remove Catalyst Control Center from my computer to see if that works, but still keeping the graphics drivers. I heard that could be the problem on some of these errors. [editline]14th September 2012[/editline] Removed CCC from my computer. Restarted, going to see if it all works without the Catalyst Control Center. [editline]edit[/editline] So I've been running it for 3 hours and 25 minutes now. I've had GMod open with no apparent errors happening for 1½ hours. Only thing happening is that when playing embedded videos / videos on YouTube / using Flash, screen might turn black but then back on a second later, telling me that my drivers crashed and has been regained. I can live with not using the Videos and Flash section though, haha. Just need to do it on my iPad from now on. [editline]edit[/editline] For anyone who's going to find this on Google, here's how I mainly and plainly fixed it. I removed CCC (Catalyst Control Center) which fixed some stuff. I didn't freeze anymore, nor did I get BSoD's. However, the "Your screen driver has crashed and been regained" still happened. I installed CCleaner (Priform), which cleared out my registry data and just generally cleaned my system. It's been running for roughly 24 hours now with only 1 screendriver problem (screen goes black, regains screen driver), which was before I cleaned out my registry files. After cleaning the registry files, no problems yet and I've been running a ton of programs on eachother that would usually crash it within seconds with no difficulty.
Right, screw the above post - I still need some help. That's a lot of posts above but we'll have to live with it, editing the above post and no one will take a look. :v: So yeah, most issues are fixed. There's still one problem left though, which is I still crash sometimes when watching YouTube videos (In Chrome, haven't tested other browsers). Would happen randomly in a YouTube video. I've heard of AMD / ATi not liking Flash, but yeah. Is there a 'fix' for this stuff?
Get OCCT and do the GPU test.
[QUOTE=cNova;37685241]Get OCCT and do the GPU test.[/QUOTE] Will do a bit later when I have the time. However it seems that a huge amount of people with AMD - ATi cards are having problems running Flash without getting the BSoD I posted in the OP. Changed YouTube to use HTML5 instead, just to clarify if it actually IS Flash bugging it up or not. It hasn't happened any other places than YouTube after I did all the above stuff.
I had this problem before when playing games with my PC and watching youtube videos the PC would turn off w/o giving any BSOD and/or error message. Turns out the PSU was faulty. Now with the new PSU, i can do w/e the fuck i want :D
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