• Google wants self-drive cars by 2020
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[quote]will have no steering wheel or conventional controls[/quote] So it will have no manual override at all? Who's at fault when a crash between 2 AI cars happens?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47346909]So it will have no manual override at all? Who's at fault when a crash between 2 AI cars happens?[/QUOTE] How are you supposed to park it
[QUOTE=Bubz;47347129]How are you supposed to park it[/QUOTE] You don't. AI does.
i think i would like to have manual override if necessary [editline]18th March 2015[/editline] no-steering wheels feels like something for a taxi or something
To expand the question of responsibility: Who is to pay for the monthly/annually car insurance costs ? a) The driver that is just a passenger at this point, b) car manufacturer, c) software company that made the AI
I would tolerate self-driving if I had the ability to manually override the AI and drive it myself, but there's no way in hell I'd step foot in a car that doesn't even have any controls for humans.
[t]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/81721000/jpg/_81721605_75138255.jpg[/t] why is the car so depressed [editline]18th March 2015[/editline] if the cars going to be like that, I'm not bothering with it [editline]18th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Starlight 456;47348109]I would tolerate self-driving if I had the ability to manually override the AI and drive it myself, but there's no way in hell I'd step foot in a car that doesn't even have any controls for humans.[/QUOTE] jokes aside, pretty much that no manual override? Hell no. What if the car malfunctions (Lightning, minor bump, whatever interference can cause such a thing) I want to press a button and force the AI to shut down immediately, and force the car into manual mode.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;47348093]To expand the question of responsibility: Who is to pay for the monthly/annually car insurance costs ? a) The driver that is just a passenger at this point, b) car manufacturer, c) software company that made the AI[/QUOTE] There would probably be new registries in place and legalities giving responsibility to one sole passenger within that vehicle that would apply to the driver. There would also probably be less crashes seeing as AI would be controlling, and for this shit to even get close to the street, It would need to pass countless perfect and flawless tests of all shapes and sizes and even then make it through congress.
I'd guess that the reason the test car has no manual controls is because they want to make it possible, and then prove that it's possible, for their technology to complete an entire journey from start to finish without any manual control. Most production cars would definitely retain manual control, at least at first.
No manual controls at all sounds risky as hell.
I'd rather magnetize the roads and get hovercars going instead.
[QUOTE=Oizen;47352296]No manual controls at all sounds risky as hell.[/QUOTE] Less risky than a human driver though. People are dangerous drivers and especially those that think they aren't.
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;47352363]Less risky than a human driver though. People are dangerous drivers and especially those that think they aren't.[/QUOTE] Yes, the computer is better. If all the cars are self-driving, they are all communicating with eachother instantly. They also have no emotions and can calculate the best possible outcome so much faster than any human could while they're fearing for their own life.
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;47352363]Less risky than a human driver though. People are dangerous drivers and especially those that think they aren't.[/QUOTE] Pretty much this, I bet Google probably has put a lot of thought into how to deal with mechanical failures to. In a recent interview between Musk and the Nvidia CEO the topic was touched on: [video=youtube;TDm6Snkle70]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDm6Snkle70[/video]
[QUOTE=J!NX;47348113][t]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/81721000/jpg/_81721605_75138255.jpg[/t] why is the car so depressed [/QUOTE] Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure they deliberately made the cars look "cute" to make people more aware of them when they are driving around, or something.
the driverless mercedez looks hella cooler [img]http://www.noiseys.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/150108171515-mercedes-benz-driver-less-car-doors-closed-large-169.jpg[/img] looks nearly exactly like the driver less cars from i robot [img]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/irobot/images/b/b6/Dsts_1088109878_audi_i_robot.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120405031429[/img]
[QUOTE=sixteen.io;47353594]Yes, the computer is better. If all the cars are self-driving, they are all communicating with eachother instantly. They also have no emotions and can calculate the best possible outcome so much faster than any human could while they're fearing for their own life.[/QUOTE] I doubt all cars will be self driving with no manual override. What about situations with unmarked roads or offroading? Not a problem in cities, but outside of them I don't see how self driving cars with no manual control will be able to navigate in many situations. My parents live at a place where you need to drive off the road and pretty much cross a field to get to their house. How could AI possibly do that both safely and successfully?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47374772]I doubt all cars will be self driving with no manual override. What about situations with unmarked roads or offroading? Not a problem in cities, but outside of them I don't see how self driving cars with no manual control will be able to navigate in many situations. My parents live at a place where you need to drive off the road and pretty much cross a field to get to their house. How could AI possibly do that both safely and successfully?[/QUOTE] A self-teaching car that will kill you in your sleep of course!
[QUOTE=cricket50;47374470]the driverless mercedez looks hella cooler [img]http://www.noiseys.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/150108171515-mercedes-benz-driver-less-car-doors-closed-large-169.jpg[/img] looks nearly exactly like the driver less cars from i robot [img]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/irobot/images/b/b6/Dsts_1088109878_audi_i_robot.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120405031429[/img][/QUOTE] Why deliberately make it look robotic like something from a sci-fi movie? Is there a merit to this design choice apart from it looking like something from the future?
The sci-fi look only works in a sci-fi setting. A car that looks like it's from the future doesn't look cool driving through 1990
[QUOTE=Dr.C;47380299]The sci-fi look only works in a sci-fi setting. A car that looks like it's from the future doesn't look cool driving through 1990[/QUOTE] That's a moot point because everything can't suddenly turn sci-fi. Some things will look futuristic sooner than others.
Is cyberpunk now an actual goal that society as a whole is aspiring towards?
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