Cannot scale a 32" LCD beyond it's native resolution.
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Alright, so I have a 32" LCD as my monitor. I know it's dumb, but it's what I have. Now here's the issue. Its native, current resolution, is 1360x768. Great, bright, clear picture.
Now for whatever reason, when I try to scale it anywhere above the 1360x768 the picture becomes grainy, dull, and it's hard to read text. It's nowhere near as vivid, and it is really choppy looking. I have no clue why it does this. On a regular monitor if you scale the resolution past its native resolution the GUI gets bigger/smaller, but the picture quality and legibility of text doesn't change.
Here it is in 1360x768:
[IMG]http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/6522/unledeih.png[/IMG]
And here it is in 1920x1080:
[IMG]http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/761/unled2vd.png[/IMG]
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[b]The screenshot I took of the 1920x1080 looks fine,[/b] but when you're actually looking at the monitor with the naked eye, it's dull, discolored, and grainy. I have no clue why it does this. Is there a fix for this, to be able to scale the resolution higher without it fucking up the physical picture quality? Or is it just not calibrated to go anywhere beyond its native resolution?
I'm using HDMI to DVI, if that helps any.
[editline]1st June 2011[/editline]
Opps. meant to post in technical support.
Close enough.
don't even bother forcing 1080p on a 720p TV especially if its a bit older
the thing is that a shape that uses 4 pixels is "compressed" into 1 or two pixels which reduces quality
and also you literally loose pixels
lcd monitors can't be scaled beyond their native resolution without it looking completely fucked, unlike CRTs
[QUOTE=QuAtT;30178415]don't even bother forcing 1080p on a 720p TV especially if its a bit older
the thing is that a shape that uses 4 pixels is "compressed" into 1 or two pixels which reduces quality
and also you literally loose pixels[/QUOTE]
Is it possible to push it beyond 1360x768? Or is it just not feasible since it's only 720p, and not 1080p?
I have a 32" LCD TV from AOC and I have the exact same problem. Basically, it's time to upgrade. That's all you can do.
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;30178453]lcd monitors can't be scaled beyond their native resolution without it looking completely fucked, unlike CRTs[/QUOTE]
So I'm pretty much stuck until I buy an actual monitor?
Or a TV that supports 1080i/p/whatever
I'd think, maybe it would be possible to re-scale the GUI itself, to sort of form a pseudo-1920x1080, no?
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Also, could someone explain to me the technical aspect of why it can't be under scaled or over scaled from its native resolution? Any direction I go that isn't 1360x768 fucks up the picture. It just doesn't make sense to me why it can't go to a higher resolution, because [b]as far as I know[/b] a higher resolution is just a rescaling of the GUI.
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;30178609]Unlike CRTs LCDs actually have a fixed grid of pixels
Unfortunately they're not nanobots yet so they can't multiply themselves and go for a higher resolution
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And no higher resolution is not that at ALL[/QUOTE]
"as far as I know", in bold. Which is why I asked for an explanation.
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Also, why does the screenshot of the 1920x1080 resolution look fine?
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;30178700]Okay, so, this is what your monitor shows you:
[IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4861882/Facepunch/a1.png[/IMG]
Regular nice-looking image, right?
This is what it looks like from real close:
[IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4861882/Facepunch/a2.png[/IMG]
Each one of those squares is a pixel. Resolution tells you how many pixels you have. The more pixels you have on a screen, the better, and since you have a 32" LCD, you'd need something like 2560x1200 to make it tolerable - TVs really aren't supposed to be used as monitors.
LCDs have a fixed "grid" of pixels - anything above or below that optimal resolution will look like utter shit, since it's not [U]actually [/U]a different resolution.
My monitor is a 22" 1920x1080 LCD, for you to have an idea. The smaller the monitor and the bigger the resolution is, the higher the DPI (dots per inch) is. That's why Apple boasts their ~retina~ display so much.
You should [B]really[/B] get a monitor. It'll make an immense difference.
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Explanation is here. And the screenshot is because your monitor isn't trying to go to a resolution it can't do. It's just showing a 1366x768 image, but as if it was a 1920x1080.
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You're better off using 768 for now. Just buy a new monitor.[/QUOTE]
I had a 1600x900 monitor, but then my parents decided to give me a 32" LCD for Christmas for no apparent reason, and my friend who was living with me at the time got a pair of socks from his mom. He was using a horrible monitor, so I felt bad and let him have mine. I can't really afford a new one right now, so I guess I'm stuck with my shitty resolution.
I get this issue, it means I cant run games below the native resolution and it means I get massive performance hits, but there is no other option, but thanks for explaining why guys!
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