you don't really need anything more than an i5 for gaming, really. it's just a waste of 100$
[QUOTE=space1;51723938]you don't really need anything more than an i5 for gaming, really. it's just a waste of 100$[/QUOTE]
I don't know, I never saw the point in holding back with anything, just don't buy it if you believe it is a poor offer. This whole "you never need more than X" saying never made much sense to me either way, you either can afford it or you cannot, if you can't buy it now then that sucks, you just skip over it and you wait for another opportunity.
[QUOTE=RaTcHeT302;51723958]I don't know, I never saw the point in holding back with anything, just don't buy it if you believe it is a poor offer. This whole "you never need more than X" saying never made much sense to me either way, you either can afford it or you cannot, if you can't buy it now then that sucks, you just skip over it and you wait for another opportunity.[/QUOTE]
Yea spending 100$ more for a SEVEN PERCENT performance increase(for video games) makes sense to you? It's just after a certain point there's diminishing returns and it isn't really worth it to pay more. If I pay 50% more I should expect to see a similar improvement.
Unless you're rendering videos or something, then you can disregard.
[QUOTE=space1;51726845]Yea spending 100$ more for a SEVEN PERCENT performance increase(for video games) makes sense to you? It's just after a certain point there's diminishing returns and it isn't really worth it to pay more. If I pay 50% more I should expect to see a similar improvement.
Unless you're rendering videos or something, then you can disregard.[/QUOTE]
Now compare the geometric mean of all practical tests they performed between the i7-7700k @ stock versus the i5 7600k, that's a ~36% difference.
[t]http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/vARiZFPVFb6qvy24A74NZU-650-80.png[/t]
Nobody uses their build for gaming and absolutely nothing else. For $100 extra, I would most definitely go for the i7 for the increased performance in practical applications as well as better future proofing.
[QUOTE=RaTcHeT302;51723958]This whole "you never need more than X" saying never made much sense to me either way, you either can afford it or you cannot,[/QUOTE]
you ever heard of dimishing returns?
[QUOTE=space1;51723938]you don't really need anything more than an i5 for gaming, really. it's just a waste of 100$[/QUOTE]
8 years ago called, the rent is due
[QUOTE=27X;51728626]8 years ago called, the rent is due[/QUOTE]
it's still like that lol, unless you consider extra 3 fps in games (and extra 10 fps in ~cpu intensive~ games) worth it
No it isn't, unless all you play is badly ported console games.
while i5 is fine for gaming, there is advantages with i7 specially for openworld games.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;51728614]Now compare the geometric mean of all practical tests they performed between the i7-7700k @ stock versus the i5 7600k, that's a ~36% difference.
[t]http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/vARiZFPVFb6qvy24A74NZU-650-80.png[/t]
Nobody uses their build for gaming and absolutely nothing else. For $100 extra, I would most definitely go for the i7 for the increased performance in practical applications as well as better future proofing.[/QUOTE]
I use my build for gaming and absolutely nothing else
[editline]26th January 2017[/editline]
Don't even browse on it
I must say $350 seems like a damn good price for one, though the motherboard would probably be the part that kills my wallet.
[QUOTE=Megadave;51729841]I must say $350 seems like a damn good price for one, though the motherboard would probably be the part that kills my wallet.[/QUOTE]
You can get a damn solid motherboard for one for like $150
I recently did a massive upgrade on my PC and got one of these. Really happy with it so far considering my last major upgrade was about 6 years ago.
Still using an i5 4670K, still does a good job now.
My i5-750 screams in agony nowadays. I was going to have a 3000 series but the mobo fried.
[QUOTE=damnatus;51728661]it's still like that lol, unless you consider extra 3 fps in games (and extra 7 fps in ~cpu intensive~ games) worth it[/QUOTE]
Dunno if you've played BF1 but I can only just squeeze 60 out of it on low-mid with an i7-6700HQ and a GTX960m, my mate has the fullsize 960 and an i5-2500 and he struggles to get 45 on most standard-size maps on the same settings I run. Only speaking from experience here but processing power does seem to be a big deal with recent games.
i7 processors, as someone mentioned, aren't a huge step up for gaming and gaming alone
Other applications (such as rendering) do benefit from it, as far as I know
[QUOTE=Rolond Returns;51732568]Dunno if you've played BF1 but I can only just squeeze 60 out of it on low-mid with an i7-6700HQ and a GTX960m, my mate has the fullsize 960 and an i5-2500 and he struggles to get 45 on most standard-size maps on the same settings I run. Only speaking from experience here but processing power does seem to be a big deal with recent games.[/QUOTE]
i have a gtx 970 and an i5 4690k and i can max almost everything that isn't gta v/the witcher 3 at 40-60 fps.
It would help if you listed the RAM of both computers here, and checked whether or not background programs are interfering. (you don't need chrome/firefox running while playing, they tend to be performance hogs)
also, on lower graphical settings, certain games tend to offload the performance to the cpu (because for some reason shitty computers have really overpowered cpus and bad gpus)
[QUOTE=Rolond Returns;51732568]Dunno if you've played BF1 but I can only just squeeze 60 out of it on low-mid with an i7-6700HQ and a GTX960m, my mate has the fullsize 960 and an i5-2500 and he struggles to get 45 on most standard-size maps on the same settings I run. Only speaking from experience here but processing power does seem to be a big deal with recent games.[/QUOTE]
I don't think comparing a 6 year old i5 to a year old i7 is a good idea to be honest, I was talking about comparing i5s and i7s of the same series
[QUOTE=damnatus;51735038]I don't think comparing a 6 year old i5 to a year old i7 is a good idea to be honest, I was talking about comparing i5s and i7s of the same series[/QUOTE]
Upgrading from an i5-3570K (Ivy Bridge) to i7-3770K (Ivy Bridge) can solve the CPU bottleneck in Battlefield 1.
[sp]Or that's what I've read.[/sp]
Older i5s are slowly becoming a bottleneck, though.
Really it just depends on your situation.
Got the money? Sure, and i7 is objectively faster, better and will last longer, if skimping is no issue there is no reason not to get one.
At least older i5 performance might be starting to fall off on a case by case basis, but if you are the kind of person who is totally fine with knocking some settings down here and there on new games in order to squeeze a few extra frames out and you have a limited budget, an i5 is totally fine.
In all of the builds I have done recently for people who have a budget of around £800 ($1000, but bear in mind its quite a bit more expensive to build a PC outside of America), I have tossed an i5 in there and everyone has been more than happy and even surprised with the performance to cost on the latest and greatest games.
[QUOTE=Cushie;51735181]Really it just depends on your situation.
Got the money? Sure, and i7 is objectively faster, better and will last longer, if skimping is no issue there is no reason not to get one.
At least older i5 performance might be starting to fall off on a case by case basis, but if you are the kind of person who is totally fine with knocking some settings down here and there on new games in order to squeeze a few extra frames out and you have a limited budget, an i5 is totally fine.
In all of the builds I have done recently for people who have a budget of around £800 ($1000, but bear in mind its quite a bit more expensive to build a PC outside of America), I have tossed an i5 in there and everyone has been more than happy and even surprised with the performance to cost on the latest and greatest games.[/QUOTE]
Yeah the barrier for entry on smooth 1080p gaming is stupid low nowadays.
[editline]27th January 2017[/editline]
Like I mean [URL="https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V6Lgqk"]this[/URL] will get me a playable 1080p experience
Y'all are instantly going on about gaming performance as if it's the singular use for hardware. :v: I'm excited to see some rendering benchmarks with this vs my i7 6700k!
I like to dabble in just about everything using my computer, paying the extra few hundred for an i7 has been worth it.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51735843]Y'all are instantly going on about gaming performance as if it's the singular use for hardware. :v: I'm excited to see some rendering benchmarks with this vs my i7 6700k![/QUOTE]
People are specifying "for gaming" in their posts on a thread on a gaming forum from a gaming website. Obviously no one is saying it's the only use for hardware.
[QUOTE=Levelog;51735804]
Like I mean [URL="https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V6Lgqk"]this[/URL] will get me a playable 1080p experience[/QUOTE]
Dual core?
[QUOTE=NitronikALT;51736297]Dual core?[/QUOTE]
Dual core with hyperthreading, yes.
[QUOTE=Saxon;51735926]I like to dabble in just about everything using my computer, paying the extra few hundred for an i7 has been worth it.[/QUOTE]
Completely agree, most games won't utilise the full power of an i7 and that's fine but other applications will, if you have the extra to spend I personally think it's worth it. Friends who have an i5 really struggle to stream their games if they ever want to even with having one of the newest enthusiast GPUs.
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