Computer shutting off while playing - is it a PSU issue?
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As the title says, I'm getting issues where after my GPU (R9 290) has been running for a while at higher temps (80C max), my entire computer just hard shuts off and tries to reboot itself but stops because it's still overheating. I've tested somethings including undervolting my GPU, which actually lets me play for longer. Given that, I think it's a PSU issue? The event viewer shows all kernel power events.
Current build:
i5 3570k OC'd to 4.5 ghz
8 GB DDR3 RAM DDR3
two 22 inch 1080p monitors
240 GB SSD
R9 290
Coolermaster 650W GX 80+ PSU
Edit:
I should mention that yes the GPU gets cooler as expected when undervolting, I can play for longer but ultimately I still get shut off like the power has been cut off. Oh, also, I can't reboot unless I go to the back of my computer, switch the PSU on/off button to off, unplug the PSU, replug it, and turn it back on. This makes me feel like it's a PSU issue.
Sounds like you might not have enough headroom for your setup. Quick googling tells me that, at normal use (IE:no overclocking) your CPU and GPU can peak at up to 500W, but I'm also paranoid about power consumption, so you might be fine. Something else to consider: a bit of googling told me that max temp is 40°C for that PSU, and it does have over temperature protection, so perhaps the psu is overheating? Just some thoughts.
Yeah, I feel like the PSU is overheating. Apparently my PSU's model is a turd so I think I have to get a new one. Any recommendations?
[editline]5th May 2016[/editline]
I also actually didn't realize I've had this PSU for 5 and a half years. So maybe it's on its death bed
[QUOTE=The Best;50263994]Yeah, I feel like the PSU is overheating. Apparently my PSU's model is a turd so I think I have to get a new one. Any recommendations?
[editline]5th May 2016[/editline]
I also actually didn't realize I've had this PSU for 5 and a half years. So maybe it's on its death bed[/QUOTE]
It is past warranty, so that's entirely possible. And I'm probably not the best to recommend a psu, I bought [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139140]this[/url] because I was paranoid about power consumption. It's a good psu, but probably more power than i need.
I got me a Corsair RM750x, very nice piece of kit, a breeze to install with the modular plugs and such
It's a solid unit but there's better for less.
Usually more intensive games can result in this. I would suggest staying away from the games that cause your computer to crash before damage could be done. I used to have this issue with a Thermaltake TR2 450W PSU. I was using a GT 970, and opening Arma 3, and having everything maxed out would eventually cause the computer to powerdown during intense moments such as explosions or vehicles. All was fixed when i upped to a 750W. A good way to prove its your power supply is sound. Your video card will actually "Whine" at you. This is known as Coil Whine. It sounds like a high pitched frequency sound when you open games, or run games with High FPS. Some video cards will always have a whine no matter what, or only whine when you play intense games. My card used to whine, and when i switched PSU's it never whines unless i play SUPER intense games. Just a thought :/ Good luck!
[QUOTE=WastedJamacan;50263786]Quick googling tells me that, at normal use (IE:no overclocking) your CPU and GPU can peak at up to 500W[/QUOTE]
I'd like a source on that
I checked my power consumption back when I had an overclocked 3770 and an overclocked 7970.
The entire system consumed around 400W while running both IntelBurnTest and Furmark at the same time
my equipment told me it peaked at around 520W, but that's straight from the wall, and my PSU at the time had an efficiency rating of ~80%, so alright, 416W, give or take a little
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my equipment told me it peaked at around 520W, but that's straight from the wall, and my PSU at the time had an efficiency rating of ~80%, so alright, 416W, give or take a little[/QUOTE]
Manufacturers like to add extra headproom to account for shitty PSU's delivering less than they are rated for.
OP:
What is your casefan situation looking like, and can you dust out your GPU with compressed air?
(Beware that you dont spin the fans using the compressed air)
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;50348461]I'd like a source on that
I checked my power consumption back when I had an overclocked 3770 and an overclocked 7970.
The entire system consumed around 400W while running both IntelBurnTest and Furmark at the same time
my equipment told me it peaked at around 520W, but that's straight from the wall, and my PSU at the time had an efficiency rating of ~80%, so alright, 416W, give or take a little[/QUOTE]
I want to say it was a Tom's hardware review of each component. I just took the highest peak on each power consumption graph and added them for a potential combined peak usage. Obviously this isn't sustained or anything, just a possibility of peak.
This was a while ago, but I think I just googled each component and "power consumption" or something like that
[QUOTE=WastedJamacan;50350063]I want to say it was a Tom's hardware review of each component. I just took the highest peak on each power consumption graph and added them for a potential combined peak usage. Obviously this isn't sustained or anything, just a possibility of peak.
This was a while ago, but I think I just googled each component and "power consumption" or something like that[/QUOTE]
You're only going to hit that if you're folding on max or something. No gaming or anything is going to hit 100% peak on every component.
[QUOTE=Levelog;50350329]You're only going to hit that if you're folding on max or something. No gaming or anything is going to hit 100% peak on every component.[/QUOTE]
Makes sense. Like I said, I'm paranoid about power consumption, so I use the highest number I can find and make sure I clear it comfortably.
I wonder if I have faulty PSU or GPU as I sometimes get BSODs when playing games. I dont have to unplug and replug PSU but my PC does shutdown and restart. Underclocking the GPU to stock clocks (from factory OC) seems to fix it.
PSU is 600w and GPU is gtx670, I do get coil whine at really high fps of like 400 or so.
Maybe it's because you are overclocked? Have you tried switching back to stock and see if the problem persists? I used to have this issue when I overclocked and played games. It would be too much after a little while and shut everything off.
I had to play with my OC settings for a while to fix it, but sometimes you can go too high and be steady in windows and not in games.
A good way to test this without completely resetting the BIOs is to run Prime95 and stress test the CPU.
Prime95 download: [url]http://www.mersenne.org/download/[/url]
Bring down the overclock of your CPU a little until stable and just use a GPU overclock.
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